Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 The anti-teacher is a new kind of guru hard at work on these lists. You might be the anti-teacher to someone here, and neither you, nor your anti-pupil might be aware that is happening. When someone chooses you as his anti-teacher, they set you up as the person to prove wrong, and this urge to prove you wrong becomes like a mission. But underneath the obvious hostility to your ideas the anti-pupil is using you to teach himself, and to clarify his own ideas. At the end of the process some of the anti-teacher's opinions will be adopted by the anti-pupil in a modified form. Two people could use each others as anti-teachers, and these relationships, although they could be profitable and illuminating for both, usually degenerate into protracted dog fights, which disturb other interactions at that list. If the anti-teacher knows his role, he usually lets the anti-pupil attack his ideas without responding. Eventually, the other party will come to terms with the ideas, either by agreeing, or learning tolerance, or simply moving on. If you notice someone is using you as such, it's best to keep it to yourself, at least until the person no longer needs you. If you look closer, I bet you can spot this kind of relationships going on right now. People like Tomb, Dan, and AC are sometimes used in this way by some people. There is a very simple, but profitable experiment you can conduct in this regard: when you notice your irritation at reading a post growing as you read, and you can't wait to reply, just sit back, and focus on the irritation, and try to spot what really provoked it. Does it happen more with that person than with others? Why have you given those ideas, and maybe that person such negative value? Recognize those ideas as hot bottoms to be disconnected. Just a thought, don't get all work up about it. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > The anti-teacher is a new kind of guru > hard at work on these lists. You might > be the anti-teacher to someone here, > and neither you, nor your anti-pupil might > be aware that is happening. > > When someone chooses you as his anti-teacher, > they set you up as the person to > prove wrong, and this urge to prove you > wrong becomes like a mission. But underneath > the obvious hostility to your ideas the > anti-pupil is using you to teach himself, > and to clarify his own ideas. At the end > of the process some of the anti-teacher's > opinions will be adopted by the anti-pupil > in a modified form. > > Two people could use each others as anti-teachers, > and these relationships, although they could be > profitable and illuminating for both, usually degenerate > into protracted dog fights, which disturb other > interactions at that list. > > If the anti-teacher knows his role, he usually lets > the anti-pupil attack his ideas without responding. > Eventually, the other party will come to terms with > the ideas, either by agreeing, or learning > tolerance, or simply moving on. > > If you notice someone is using you as such, it's > best to keep it to yourself, at least until the person > no longer needs you. If you look closer, I bet you can > spot this kind of relationships going on right now. > People like Tomb, Dan, and AC are sometimes > used in this way by some people. > > There is a very simple, but profitable experiment > you can conduct in this regard: when you notice > your irritation at reading a post growing as you read, > and you can't wait to reply, just sit back, and focus > on the irritation, and try to spot what really provoked it. > Does it happen more with that person than with others? > Why have you given those ideas, and maybe that > person such negative value? Recognize those ideas > as hot bottoms to be disconnected. Just a thought, > don't get all work up about it. > > Pete ** All that 'apparent' stuff takes care of itself. Like compost--for the garden of enquiry. ;=) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Well, Pete, I prefer people who speak out spontaniously and straight, with passion, honesty and fearless openness. Ok, nothing against leaning back and thinking twice, nothing against looking at oneself in the case of emotional irritations. But people who communicate through such concepts as you just elaborated... such people are still so full of social fears that they need all kind of complicated self protective filters. I feel sad about this. Because there is no need for such fear. All that is happening here are manifestations of the same old never changing mad mechanisms. Madness. Your concept will never work anyway, because the group suddenly will miracously consist only of anti-teachers. No anti-pupil in sight... What, Pete, would happen if you would share your chaos without the effort to wrap it into beautifully glittering paper. What would happen. Somebody would think that Pete is NOT an educated, intelligent and brilliant man? So what? Is it this appreciation you are really looking for? Stinking pieces of mud are writing emails. Does it matter if one stinks a little more from the feet and the other little more from the mouth. It is all perfect as it is. Lets simply go on sharing our stories. Nothing can go wrong. Once in a while a bird sings. Love Stefan Nisargadatta , Pedsie2@a... wrote: > The anti-teacher is a new kind of guru > hard at work on these lists. You might > be the anti-teacher to someone here, > and neither you, nor your anti-pupil might > be aware that is happening. > > When someone chooses you as his anti-teacher, > they set you up as the person to > prove wrong, and this urge to prove you > wrong becomes like a mission. But underneath > the obvious hostility to your ideas the > anti-pupil is using you to teach himself, > and to clarify his own ideas. At the end > of the process some of the anti-teacher's > opinions will be adopted by the anti-pupil > in a modified form. > > Two people could use each others as anti-teachers, > and these relationships, although they could be > profitable and illuminating for both, usually degenerate > into protracted dog fights, which disturb other > interactions at that list. > > If the anti-teacher knows his role, he usually lets > the anti-pupil attack his ideas without responding. > Eventually, the other party will come to terms with > the ideas, either by agreeing, or learning > tolerance, or simply moving on. > > If you notice someone is using you as such, it's > best to keep it to yourself, at least until the person > no longer needs you. If you look closer, I bet you can > spot this kind of relationships going on right now. > People like Tomb, Dan, and AC are sometimes > used in this way by some people. > > There is a very simple, but profitable experiment > you can conduct in this regard: when you notice > your irritation at reading a post growing as you read, > and you can't wait to reply, just sit back, and focus > on the irritation, and try to spot what really provoked it. > Does it happen more with that person than with others? > Why have you given those ideas, and maybe that > person such negative value? Recognize those ideas > as hot bottoms to be disconnected. Just a thought, > don't get all work up about it. > > Pete > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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