Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Dan.... Are you capable of an intelligent exchange? Or are these little " peanut gallery " cracks the zenith of your capabilites? Bill - danananda2004 Nisargadatta Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:34 PM Re: Bill's No Self. for somebody whose writing " leaves no impression " , you sure are defensive about it... Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: > bill. if " the writing of this message leaves no impression " , why is > it posted here on this forum for all to read? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Why is it Dan? > That is something for you to contemplate... > What did I mean by " impression " Dan? > Do you *know* what I meant? > Or do you assume that the first thing that > pops into your head is surely what I meant? > > Perhaps when what I say doesn't make sense > to you it is a sign that you have not understood. > > > Bill > > - > danananda2004 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:17 AM > Re: Bill's No Self. > > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > wrote: > > Bill, I find interesting that you write > > you no longer have a sense of self. I'm > > not sure what you mean by this. Do you > > mean that now you find all concepts, and > > memories regarding a Bill to be a false > > imputation? Or is it that now you lack > > those feelings of interiority associated > > with a locus of activity? > > > > Pete > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The latter, Pete. > > > > The former option you mention would be > > -- if I read you right -- a conceptual > > " adjustment " of some kind. > > > > But I can't even say " I lack those feelings > > of interiority... " > > even that is an overstatement, because > > the subjective sense of " I lack " is not > > there. > > > > I cannot seem to say: I sense, I experience, > > I feel, etc. Nevertheless I can say I > > just read your message, and that I am > > writing a response to your message. > > I can also say: I remember responding to > > your message. > > > > There is a very subtle sense of absence, > > but it is like noting the blind spot > > of your eye... a most fleeting sense or > > impression. > > > > There are " private " sensations, meaning > > sensations that only I can give a report > > of, such as say a tingling in the fingers. > > But such sensations are " free floating " ... > > and are not really distinct from the sound > > of water running in the swimming pool next > > door. All sensations belong to the same > > non-container (meaning there is no such > > " thing " as such a container) and are themselves > > *non-distinct*. Everything moves and > > transforms freely and is integrated as > > an " organic " whole. > > > > When I (sometimes) say that nothing ever > > happens, I mean that there is nothing > > distinct, nothing singular, nothing special, > > that it is all a blur, all a phantasmic, > > dreamlike apparition. > > > > I used to say there is a sense of wholeness, > > a sense of deep peace, etc. But now even > > that is gone. I can say there is Appearance, > > but that is the most I can report. And even > > a reporting as such is a blur, a dreamlike > > trace of smoke. Nothing stands out, nothing is > > apart. The writing of this message is such a > > dreamlike trace of smoke. While I could remember > > about it if asked, the writing of this message > > leaves no impression. The trace of smoke has > > faded, is gone. > > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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