Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > A thought is a material process in a brain. A thought This is only an explanation, never actually experienced, not essentially different in the way it occurs in the human mind than a caveman attributing the presence of a flame to a fire fairy. Neither the flame nor the thought is its explanation, nor are they known by any explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <Pedsie2@a...> wrote: > One of the objections to correspondence as a test of reality, is the > believe that we can never know any object in itself. That thinking is > always there tainting our perceptions, that even in seeing a rock, > we can't detach the seeing from the recognition of it as a rock, and > that recognition is a thought. So the world of matter must always > remain out there untouched by our mind, and there can never be any > unmixed correspondent between an image, and its object. > > This objection is based on the fallacy that a thought is something > insubstantial. A thought is a material process in a brain. A thought > is an exchange of neurotransmiters and electricity between neurons. A > mind is a choreography of chemicals and occupies the same spatial > dimension as a rock.. That the brain experiences its own workings as > detached sensations doesn't divide the universe into two incompatible > realms. All is one, all is matter/energy, and matter/energy > is the unknown. > > Pete Yes, the material universe is one, including our bodies and brains. The interesting thing is that we have: 1) Consciousness 2) Brain and nervous system 3) Other bodily tissues and organs 4) The skin covering the body 5) The world outside the body And that these things are divided in time, where consciousness is zero seconds away from 'you' and the body and the rest of the world are always more than zero seconds away from 'you'. With 'you' I mean awake awareness, the silent observer. So all you are aware of is the past, everything has already happened, and now we are experiencing all that has happened. Everything 'material' is the past. This means that the Source of everything is in you, your consciousness, because your consciousness is what is always closest to the 'future' - it is the source emanating the future. Everything material has already happened, it is dead. The human body is already dead, " frozen in time " . A thought 'you' become aware of has already happened. All bodily sensations, such as thoughts, emotions, memories, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting touching, has already happened; it is already the past. So, when we say " I am alive " that is true, but it is only pure awareness that is alive. The material world, including our bodies, are never alive. The material world is form experienced in sequence creating the appearance of change. But form in itself is not 'things'. The material world has no substance. Only awareness has substance. Awareness is, and cannot be born or die. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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