Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to Nisargadatta > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=4058243 > > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > > > > > ><Nisargadatta > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect > > > > > > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells me, > >but > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world is > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic kicks > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between consciousness and > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical > >world. > > > > > > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is > >zero > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical world > >is > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me. > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already > >dead. > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already dead > >in > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or is > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion? > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a keyboard at > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really curious how > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list. > > > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite > > > > > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do > >have consciousness? > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there may have > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that premise :-) There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all* appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again, where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated now, now, and only now. :-) > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So when > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or, > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-) > > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before it > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a > >stiff inside a cocoon? > > > >/AL > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously " > Anon One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video game has infinite computing power! :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this around the goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent illusory, conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh well can someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is taking oneself too seriously " RL....fpI >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to >Nisargadatta > > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=4058243 > > > > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > > > > > > ><Nisargadatta > > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM > > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect > > > > > > > > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells >me, > > >but > > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world >is > > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic >kicks > > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be > > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between >consciousness and > > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical > > >world. > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is > > >zero > > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical >world > > >is > > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me. > > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I > > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already > > >dead. > > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already >dead > > >in > > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or >is > > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion? > > > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this > > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a >keyboard at > > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a > > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really >curious how > > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list. > > > > > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite > > > > > > > > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever > > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do > > >have consciousness? > > > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there >may have > > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that >premise :-) > >There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the >future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you >take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right >now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human >beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all* >appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You >feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again, >where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you >think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you >crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you >feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a >character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let >the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his >parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever >knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated >now, now, and only now. :-) > > > > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical > > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So >when > > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing > > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it > > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your > > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or, > > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-) > > > > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies > > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality > > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before >it > > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his > > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a > > >stiff inside a cocoon? > > > > > >/AL > > > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously " > > > Anon > >One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing >projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as >one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video >game has infinite computing power! :-) > >/AL > > > > >** > >If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your >subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > >/mygroups?edit=1 > >Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta >group and click on Save Changes. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this around the > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent illusory, > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh well can > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged > > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is taking > oneself too seriously " > > RL....fpI LOL. I'm afraid not. The dissolving mind must spew its contents, often in public. Often not a pretty sight. The mind receives the call (learns about liberation) Resolves to seek. Attains conceptual knowledge of his nature and what it seeks. Then comes the phase of spreading the knowledge of what it now considers as Salvation. This phase could become a trap (some never scape). Then it comes the phase of getting disappointed with knowledge. If this phase is completed both knowledge and knower go out the window and there is true peace. The above is not a map of any real road, but just a probable course of events. And the changing goes on, and on. So those who join this lists, must join in the spirit of one entering a disecting room. Wear your mask, wear your gloves. ) > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > > > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to > >Nisargadatta > > > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/? v=4058243 > > > > > > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > > > > > > > ><Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells > >me, > > > >but > > > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world > >is > > > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic > >kicks > > > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be > > > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between > >consciousness and > > > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical > > > >world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is > > > >zero > > > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical > >world > > > >is > > > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me. > > > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I > > > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already > > > >dead. > > > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already > >dead > > > >in > > > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or > >is > > > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this > > > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a > >keyboard at > > > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a > > > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really > >curious how > > > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list. > > > > > > > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite > > > > > > > > > > > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever > > > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do > > > >have consciousness? > > > > > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there > >may have > > > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that > >premise :-) > > > >There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the > >future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you > >take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right > >now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human > >beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all* > >appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You > >feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again, > >where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you > >think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you > >crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you > >feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a > >character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let > >the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his > >parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever > >knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated > >now, now, and only now. :-) > > > > > > > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical > > > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So > >when > > > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing > > > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it > > > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your > > > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or, > > > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-) > > > > > > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies > > > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality > > > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before > >it > > > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his > > > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a > > > >stiff inside a cocoon? > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously " > > > > > Anon > > > >One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing > >projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as > >one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video > >game has infinite computing power! :-) > > > >/AL > > > > > > > > > >** > > > >If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > >subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > >/mygroups?edit=1 > > > >Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta > >group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this around the > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent illusory, > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh well can > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged > > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is taking > oneself too seriously " > > RL....fpI The scary part about what I write is that if there is only consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this is the scariest shit there is. :-) /AL > > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > > > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to > >Nisargadatta > > > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/? v=4058243 > > > > > > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> > > > > > > > ><Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells > >me, > > > >but > > > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world > >is > > > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic > >kicks > > > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be > > > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between > >consciousness and > > > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical > > > >world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is > > > >zero > > > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical > >world > > > >is > > > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me. > > > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I > > > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already > > > >dead. > > > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already > >dead > > > >in > > > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or > >is > > > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion? > > > > > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this > > > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a > >keyboard at > > > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a > > > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really > >curious how > > > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list. > > > > > > > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite > > > > > > > > > > > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever > > > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do > > > >have consciousness? > > > > > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there > >may have > > > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that > >premise :-) > > > >There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the > >future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you > >take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right > >now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human > >beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all* > >appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You > >feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again, > >where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you > >think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you > >crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you > >feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a > >character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let > >the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his > >parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever > >knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated > >now, now, and only now. :-) > > > > > > > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical > > > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So > >when > > > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing > > > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it > > > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your > > > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or, > > > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-) > > > > > > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies > > > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality > > > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before > >it > > > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his > > > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a > > > >stiff inside a cocoon? > > > > > > > >/AL > > > > > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously " > > > > > Anon > > > >One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing > >projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as > >one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video > >game has infinite computing power! :-) > > > >/AL > > > > > > > > > >** > > > >If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > >subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > >/mygroups?edit=1 > > > >Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta > >group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this > around the > > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent > illusory, > > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh > well can > > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged > > > > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is > taking > > oneself too seriously " > > > > RL....fpI > > The scary part about what I write is that if there is only > consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this is > the scariest shit there is. :-) > > /AL If there is only x -- whatever you want to name x -- then, there is no individual which can be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. There is only x. End of story. You can't say anything meaningful. Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's meaningful to you. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote: > > > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this > > around the > > > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent > > illusory, > > > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh > > well can > > > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged > > > > > > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is > > taking > > > oneself too seriously " > > > > > > RL....fpI > > > > The scary part about what I write is that if there is only > > consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this > is > > the scariest shit there is. :-) > > > > /AL > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name > x -- then, there is no individual which can > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. > > There is only x. > > End of story. > > You can't say anything meaningful. > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's > meaningful to you. > > -- Dan The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning in relaxing into fearless beingness. :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name > > x -- then, there is no individual which can > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. > > > > There is only x. > > > > End of story. > > > > You can't say anything meaningful. > > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's > > meaningful to you. > > > > -- Dan > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning in > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-) > > /AL As there is no separable I to have a reaction of his or her own to something, meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant. What happens, happens. What is, is. Nothing needs to be added or can be added. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name > > > x -- then, there is no individual which can > > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. > > > > > > There is only x. > > > > > > End of story. > > > > > > You can't say anything meaningful. > > > > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's > > > meaningful to you. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning in > > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-) > > > > /AL > > As there is no separable I to have a reaction of > his or her own to something, > meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant. > > What happens, happens. > > What is, is. > > Nothing needs to be added or can be added. > > -- Dan Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be added _or_ taken away. :-) /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name > > > > x -- then, there is no individual which can > > > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. > > > > > > > > There is only x. > > > > > > > > End of story. > > > > > > > > You can't say anything meaningful. > > > > > > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's > > > > meaningful to you. > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning > in > > > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-) > > > > > > /AL > > > > As there is no separable I to have a reaction of > > his or her own to something, > > meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant. > > > > What happens, happens. > > > > What is, is. > > > > Nothing needs to be added or can be added. > > > > -- Dan > > Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be added > _or_ taken away. :-) > > /AL You're scaring me, AL. Not really. :-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman " > <anders_lindman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > > wrote: > > > > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name > > > > > x -- then, there is no individual which can > > > > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy. > > > > > > > > > > There is only x. > > > > > > > > > > End of story. > > > > > > > > > > You can't say anything meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's > > > > > meaningful to you. > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find > meaning > > in > > > > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-) > > > > > > > > /AL > > > > > > As there is no separable I to have a reaction of > > > his or her own to something, > > > meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant. > > > > > > What happens, happens. > > > > > > What is, is. > > > > > > Nothing needs to be added or can be added. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be > added > > _or_ taken away. :-) > > > > /AL > > You're scaring me, AL. > > Not really. :-) > > -- Dan Ha! :-) What is real is the Universe as a _single_ expression. The Universe can only be scared of itself in the form of illusion/entertainment. /AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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