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Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote:

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> >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > >-

> > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman>

> > > > > ><Nisargadatta >

> > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM

> > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect

> > > > > >

> > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells

me,

> >but

> > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world

is

> > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic

kicks

> > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be

> > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between

consciousness and

> > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical

> >world.

> > >

> > >

> > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is

> >zero

> > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical

world

> >is

> > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me.

> > > >So, again my logic tells me that I

> > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already

> >dead.

> > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already

dead

> >in

> > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or

is

> > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion?

> > > >

> > > >/AL

> > >

> > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this

> >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a

keyboard at

> >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a

> >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really

curious how

> >a dead body replies to posts on an e list.

> > >

> > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

> > >

> >

> >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever

> >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do

> >have consciousness?

>

> RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there

may have

> been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that

premise :-)

 

There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the

future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you

take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right

now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human

beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all*

appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You

feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again,

where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you

think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you

crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you

feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a

character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let

the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his

parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever

knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated

now, now, and only now. :-)

 

>

> >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical

> >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So

when

> >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing

> >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it

> >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your

> >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or,

> >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-)

> >

> >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies

> >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality

> >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before

it

> >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his

> >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a

> >stiff inside a cocoon?

> >

> >/AL

>

> " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously "

>

Anon

 

One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing

projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as

one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video

game has infinite computing power! :-)

 

/AL

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Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this around the

goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent illusory,

conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh well can

someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged

 

so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is taking

oneself too seriously "

 

RL....fpI

 

 

>Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote:

> > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to

>Nisargadatta

> > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=4058243

> > >

> > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > >-

> > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman>

> > > > > > ><Nisargadatta >

> > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect

> > > > > > >

> > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic tells

>me,

> > >but

> > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical world

>is

> > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my logic

>kicks

> > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world cannot be

> > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between

>consciousness and

> > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the physical

> > >world.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my consciousness is

> > >zero

> > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical

>world

> > >is

> > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me.

> > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I

> > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always already

> > >dead.

> > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is already

>dead

> > >in

> > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about this? Or

>is

> > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion?

> > > > >

> > > > >/AL

> > > >

> > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but this

> > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a

>keyboard at

> > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there be a

> > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really

>curious how

> > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list.

> > > >

> > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

> > > >

> > >

> > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there ever

> > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean you do

> > >have consciousness?

> >

> > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there

>may have

> > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to that

>premise :-)

>

>There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In the

>future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you

>take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you right

>now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human

>beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all*

>appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You

>feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again,

>where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you

>think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you

>crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do you

>feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a

>character in a video game and what you see as a real human being. Let

>the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his

>parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever

>knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and recreated

>now, now, and only now. :-)

>

> >

> > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical

> > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now. So

>when

> > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past changing

> > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it

> > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of your

> > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or,

> > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-)

> > >

> > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The bodies

> > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in reality

> > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated before

>it

> > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in his

> > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying like a

> > >stiff inside a cocoon?

> > >

> > >/AL

> >

> > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously "

> >

> Anon

>

>One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing

>projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life as

>one would play with a character in a video game, only that this video

>game has infinite computing power! :-)

>

>/AL

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Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this

around the

> goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent

illusory,

> conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh

well can

> someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged

>

> so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is

taking

> oneself too seriously "

>

> RL....fpI

 

 

LOL. I'm afraid not. The dissolving mind must spew its contents,

often in public. Often not a pretty sight. The mind receives the call

(learns about liberation) Resolves to seek. Attains conceptual

knowledge of his nature and what it seeks. Then comes the phase of

spreading the knowledge of what it now considers as Salvation. This

phase could become a trap (some never scape). Then it comes the phase

of getting disappointed with knowledge. If this phase is completed

both knowledge and knower go out the window and there is true peace.

 

The above is not a map of any real road, but just a probable course

of events. And the changing goes on, and on. So those who join this

lists, must join in the spirit of one entering a disecting room. Wear

your mask, wear your gloves. :))

>

> >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote:

> > > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to

> >Nisargadatta

> > > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?

v=4058243

> > > >

> > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >-

> > > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman>

> > > > > > > ><Nisargadatta >

> > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic

tells

> >me,

> > > >but

> > > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical

world

> >is

> > > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my

logic

> >kicks

> > > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world

cannot be

> > > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between

> >consciousness and

> > > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the

physical

> > > >world.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my

consciousness is

> > > >zero

> > > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical

> >world

> > > >is

> > > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me.

> > > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I

> > > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always

already

> > > >dead.

> > > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is

already

> >dead

> > > >in

> > > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about

this? Or

> >is

> > > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >/AL

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but

this

> > > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a

> >keyboard at

> > > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there

be a

> > > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really

> >curious how

> > > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list.

> > > > >

> > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there

ever

> > > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean

you do

> > > >have consciousness?

> > >

> > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there

> >may have

> > > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to

that

> >premise :-)

> >

> >There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In

the

> >future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you

> >take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you

right

> >now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human

> >beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all*

> >appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You

> >feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again,

> >where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you

> >think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you

> >crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do

you

> >feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a

> >character in a video game and what you see as a real human being.

Let

> >the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his

> >parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever

> >knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and

recreated

> >now, now, and only now. :-)

> >

> > >

> > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical

> > > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now.

So

> >when

> > > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past

changing

> > > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it

> > > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of

your

> > > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or,

> > > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-)

> > > >

> > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The

bodies

> > > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in

reality

> > > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated

before

> >it

> > > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in

his

> > > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying

like a

> > > >stiff inside a cocoon?

> > > >

> > > >/AL

> > >

> > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously "

> > >

> > Anon

> >

> >One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing

> >projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life

as

> >one would play with a character in a video game, only that this

video

> >game has infinite computing power! :-)

> >

> >/AL

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this

around the

> goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent

illusory,

> conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh

well can

> someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged

>

> so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is

taking

> oneself too seriously "

>

> RL....fpI

 

The scary part about what I write is that if there is only

consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this is

the scariest shit there is. :-)

 

/AL

 

>

>

> >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > At 10:12 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote:

> > > >* Replies will be sent through Spamex to

> >Nisargadatta

> > > >* For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?

v=4058243

> > > >

> > > >Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >-

> > > > > > > > " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman>

> > > > > > > ><Nisargadatta >

> > > > > > > >Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:34 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Transcending the intellect

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >The present moment must be pure consciousness my logic

tells

> >me,

> > > >but

> > > > > >my feelings and my experiences tell me that the physical

world

> >is

> > > > > >real and is separate from my consciousness. But then my

logic

> >kicks

> > > > > >in and says that consciousness and the physical world

cannot be

> > > > > >separate, because there is a _connection_ between

> >consciousness and

> > > > > >the physical world since consciousness is aware of the

physical

> > > >world.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >I will take the risk of being tedious here: my

consciousness is

> > > >zero

> > > > > >seconds away from me, but according to science the physical

> >world

> > > >is

> > > > > >_not_ zero seconds away from me.

> > > > > >So, again my logic tells me that I

> > > > > >really must be consciousness and that my body is always

already

> > > >dead.

> > > > > >But I have not read about this idea that the body is

already

> >dead

> > > >in

> > > > > >any scientific papers. Have I missed some paper about

this? Or

> >is

> > > > > >science blind to this obvious conclusion?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >/AL

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry this isn't tracking....You're body might be dead, but

this

> > > >one is still active.... " appears " to be tapping out words on a

> >keyboard at

> > > >the moment :-) Sorry about your untimely demise....will there

be a

> > > >full on funeral or just a wake? enlightened or no.....am really

> >curious how

> > > >a dead body replies to posts on an e list.

> > > > >

> > > > > RL, FPI..........finite portal of the Infinite

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >There has never been a body replying to a post, nor will there

ever

> > > >be. You are consciousness aware of your body, right? I mean

you do

> > > >have consciousness?

> > >

> > > RL: well......that's always been my supposition, however, there

> >may have

> > > been one of two profs & employers that would take exception to

that

> >premise :-)

> >

> >There are no profs or employers. *When* are they? In the past? In

the

> >future? Are they now, other than as a thought in your mind that you

> >take to be the utter truth? Even if they stood in front of you

right

> >now, it would only be a dead past you would see. There are no human

> >beings other than as a past ripple existing Now! Sheer Maya, *all*

> >appearances, thoughts and feelings; sheer 3D " virtual " reality. You

> >feel guilty when you have hurt someone's feelings? Ha, think again,

> >where is that person now, or even better *what* is this person you

> >think you have hurt? It is like when you play a video game and you

> >crash a car owned by one of the characters in the video game. Do

you

> >feel guilty then? In essence there is no difference between a

> >character in a video game and what you see as a real human being.

Let

> >the dead bury the dead. Was it not Jesus who said about his

> >parents: " I know them not " ? This is utterly correct. No one ever

> >knows anyone. The world is only a memory track created, and

recreated

> >now, now, and only now. :-)

> >

> > >

> > > >This consciousness is what is alive, the physical

> > > >world is always only a changing dead memory track in the Now.

So

> >when

> > > >you see your body typing on the keyboard it is only a past

changing

> > > >memory track you observe. The body has already happened when it

> > > >becomes present in your awareness. When you become aware of

your

> > > >body, it is only as the past, i.e. it is then already DEAD. Or,

> > > >rather, the physical world is all Maya. :-)

> > > >

> > > >Think of it as the human bodies in the Matrix movies. The

bodies

> > > >appeared real to people inside the Matrix, but what they in

reality

> > > >were observing was a computer simulation already generated

before

> >it

> > > >entered their awareness. How could Neo type on his keyboard in

his

> > > >apartment inside the Matrix, when he was in reality laying

like a

> > > >stiff inside a cocoon?

> > > >

> > > >/AL

> > >

> > > " The only really serious fault is taking oneself too seriously "

> > >

> > Anon

> >

> >One can also see oneself as consciousness observing a changing

> >projection called my body and my life, and use this body and life

as

> >one would play with a character in a video game, only that this

video

> >game has infinite computing power! :-)

> >

> >/AL

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

<anders_lindman> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this

> around the

> > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent

> illusory,

> > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist either..oh

> well can

> > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged

> >

> > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is

> taking

> > oneself too seriously "

> >

> > RL....fpI

>

> The scary part about what I write is that if there is only

> consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this

is

> the scariest shit there is. :-)

>

> /AL

 

If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

x -- then, there is no individual which can

be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

 

There is only x.

 

End of story.

 

You can't say anything meaningful.

 

Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

meaningful to you.

 

-- Dan

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> Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

> <anders_lindman> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , RL_FPI@x wrote:

> > > Hey Al..lighten (if not enlighten :-) think we've kicked this

> > around the

> > > goal posts long enough...Pete? Bill?, can some non existent

> > illusory,

> > > conscious or otherwise soul..Ooopss..those don't exist

either..oh

> > well can

> > > someone get a TD and end this game? :-) much obliged

> > >

> > > so much for Anon's contribution..... " the only serious fault is

> > taking

> > > oneself too seriously "

> > >

> > > RL....fpI

> >

> > The scary part about what I write is that if there is only

> > consciousness, then the individual is all alone. To the ego, this

> is

> > the scariest shit there is. :-)

> >

> > /AL

>

> If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

> x -- then, there is no individual which can

> be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

>

> There is only x.

>

> End of story.

>

> You can't say anything meaningful.

>

> Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

> meaningful to you.

>

> -- Dan

 

The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning in

relaxing into fearless beingness. :-)

 

/AL

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> > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

> > x -- then, there is no individual which can

> > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

> >

> > There is only x.

> >

> > End of story.

> >

> > You can't say anything meaningful.

> >

> > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

> > meaningful to you.

> >

> > -- Dan

>

> The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning in

> relaxing into fearless beingness. :-)

>

> /AL

 

As there is no separable I to have a reaction of

his or her own to something,

meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant.

 

What happens, happens.

 

What is, is.

 

Nothing needs to be added or can be added.

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

> > > x -- then, there is no individual which can

> > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

> > >

> > > There is only x.

> > >

> > > End of story.

> > >

> > > You can't say anything meaningful.

> > >

> > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

> > > meaningful to you.

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> >

> > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find meaning

in

> > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-)

> >

> > /AL

>

> As there is no separable I to have a reaction of

> his or her own to something,

> meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant.

>

> What happens, happens.

>

> What is, is.

>

> Nothing needs to be added or can be added.

>

> -- Dan

 

Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be added

_or_ taken away. :-)

 

/AL

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Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

<anders_lindman> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

> wrote:

> > > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

> > > > x -- then, there is no individual which can

> > > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

> > > >

> > > > There is only x.

> > > >

> > > > End of story.

> > > >

> > > > You can't say anything meaningful.

> > > >

> > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

> > > > meaningful to you.

> > > >

> > > > -- Dan

> > >

> > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find

meaning

> in

> > > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-)

> > >

> > > /AL

> >

> > As there is no separable I to have a reaction of

> > his or her own to something,

> > meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant.

> >

> > What happens, happens.

> >

> > What is, is.

> >

> > Nothing needs to be added or can be added.

> >

> > -- Dan

>

> Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be

added

> _or_ taken away. :-)

>

> /AL

 

You're scaring me, AL.

 

Not really. :-)

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " anders_lindman "

> <anders_lindman> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

> > wrote:

> > > > > If there is only x -- whatever you want to name

> > > > > x -- then, there is no individual which can

> > > > > be all alone, scared, with someone else, happy.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is only x.

> > > > >

> > > > > End of story.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can't say anything meaningful.

> > > > >

> > > > > Except maybe, " x, x, x, x, " if that's

> > > > > meaningful to you.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- Dan

> > > >

> > > > The meaning of something is how we feel about it. I find

> meaning

> > in

> > > > relaxing into fearless beingness. :-)

> > > >

> > > > /AL

> > >

> > > As there is no separable I to have a reaction of

> > > his or her own to something,

> > > meaning or lack of meaning is irrelevant.

> > >

> > > What happens, happens.

> > >

> > > What is, is.

> > >

> > > Nothing needs to be added or can be added.

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> >

> > Yes, you are right! I haven't seen this before. Nothing can be

> added

> > _or_ taken away. :-)

> >

> > /AL

>

> You're scaring me, AL.

>

> Not really. :-)

>

> -- Dan

 

Ha! :-) What is real is the Universe as a _single_ expression. The

Universe can only be scared of itself in the form of

illusion/entertainment.

 

/AL

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