Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean anyone is reading? I think not. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner > conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were > posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a > single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean > anyone is reading? I think not. > > Pete there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is; more than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or more come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign that something is stinking/living in here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 No, Eric, no here I can't agree with you. There are not such things like ''healthy groups''! At the best you can find some health inside: means all the ''group'' of conditioned different voices inside you can flow like a bigger and bigger stream of consciousness towards the ocean. Then you may feel inside as healthy - no matter if happy or unhappy, sick or good body. And you will forget about stupid caring for my friend Living Kabir, being troubled by your stupid little letters, he did not even read, my friend. One healthy alive can help healing process in groups. Basically people are are gathering in groups like in e-mail-lists, like in prisons, like in mental-hospitals, _because_ they feel sick inside. Sick minds, sick bodies, sick fantasies, sick entertainments, sick, sick, sick. And the basic urge to gather in groups is - as far my experience concerns - is, to strengthen own inner impulse for healing. Therefor you can not escape such energy like CelticMoonDance from our n0by-gathering simply if you unsubb yourself, my dear. These CelticMoonDance-energies are everywhere and always. And as long you have not balanced your own inner CelticMoonDance-Energy with this kind of an individual disturbance from a group, as long you will look for a next suffering of the same kind. Until death gives peace - like for Judy's husband on his cancer-deathbed. Even this kind of peace, like your and my beloved Jean-Claude, how can you ask for this kind of peace for yourself? At the best: you can stay open for all kind of sickness inside and in groups! Now, will you come back again, to continue the unfished quarrels with CoocooMoonDespair? http://www.n0by.de/n0/ka/ka15.htm (She's the Judy at n0by ) yours n0by with love http://n0by.de n0by/ > Nisargadatta , " eric " <vertvetiver> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: >> >> j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner >> conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were >> posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a >> single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean >> anyone is reading? I think not. >> >> Pete > > there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is; more > than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or more > come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even > decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry > repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign that > something is stinking/living in here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 n0by you probably have seen my private email by now, as for healthy i mean, alive and kicking of course nothing more, no adlerian analysis eric Nisargadatta , " n0by " <n0by@n...> wrote: > No, Eric, no > > here I can't agree with you. There are not such things like ''healthy > groups''! At the best you can find some health inside: means all the > ''group'' of conditioned different voices inside you can flow like a > bigger and bigger stream of consciousness towards the ocean. > > Then you may feel inside as healthy - no matter if happy or unhappy, sick > or good body. > > And you will forget about stupid caring for my friend Living Kabir, being > troubled by your stupid little letters, he did not even read, my friend. > > One healthy alive can help healing process in groups. Basically people are > are gathering in groups like in e-mail-lists, like in prisons, like in > mental-hospitals, _because_ they feel sick inside. Sick minds, sick > bodies, sick fantasies, sick entertainments, sick, sick, sick. > > And the basic urge to gather in groups is - as far my experience concerns > - is, to strengthen own inner impulse for healing. > > Therefor you can not escape such energy like CelticMoonDance from our > n0by-gathering simply if you unsubb yourself, my dear. These > CelticMoonDance-energies are everywhere and always. And as long you have > not balanced your own inner CelticMoonDance-Energy with this kind of an > individual disturbance from a group, as long you will look for a next > suffering of the same kind. > > Until death gives peace - like for Judy's husband on his cancer- deathbed. > > Even this kind of peace, like your and my beloved Jean-Claude, how can you > ask for this kind of peace for yourself? > > At the best: you can stay open for all kind of sickness inside and in groups! > > Now, will you come back again, to continue the unfished quarrels with > CoocooMoonDespair? > > http://www.n0by.de/n0/ka/ka15.htm > > (She's the Judy at n0by ) > > > yours > > n0by > > > with love > > > > http://n0by.de > > n0by/ > > > > > Nisargadatta , " eric " <vertvetiver> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > wrote: > >> > >> j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner > >> conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were > >> posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a > >> single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean > >> anyone is reading? I think not. > >> > >> Pete > > > > there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is; more > > than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or more > > come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even > > decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry > > repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign that > > something is stinking/living in here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Sure, beloved Eric, people always write slime in private, when they are coward in public, isn't it true? Even I'm fully aware, that lovely, little letters never ever change something. Only experience changes. Do you remind the experience of your relative Jean-Claude? You remind me on Jean-Claude! http://www.n0by.de/n0/Jean-Claude.htm He did not got enuff ''love-reward'' from people. So: did his EGO punished himself and people with suicide? Don't you have balls, to bring CoocooMoonsDespair in borders? Do you need to bring yourself on the safe side of the shore? People afraid from opposite gender hide beyond shelter of Father Superior? Start to write slime love confessions in private? Come on, coward, can't you use word works of your own, to free the demon? Your demon inside? What enjoy Demons and Devils better but Bitches? yours n0by with love Enuff healthy alive and kicking of course nothing more, noby-adlerian analysis? http://n0by.de n0by/ > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > <vertvetiver> wrote: > n0by you probably have seen my private email by now, > as for healthy i mean, alive and kicking of course nothing more, no > adlerian analysis > eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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