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j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner

conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were

posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a

single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean

anyone is reading? I think not.

 

Pete

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Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us>

wrote:

>

> j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner

> conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were

> posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a

> single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean

> anyone is reading? I think not.

>

> Pete

 

there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is; more

than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or more

come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even

decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry

repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign that

something is stinking/living in here)

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No, Eric, no

 

here I can't agree with you. There are not such things like ''healthy

groups''! At the best you can find some health inside: means all the

''group'' of conditioned different voices inside you can flow like a

bigger and bigger stream of consciousness towards the ocean.

 

Then you may feel inside as healthy - no matter if happy or unhappy, sick

or good body.

 

And you will forget about stupid caring for my friend Living Kabir, being

troubled by your stupid little letters, he did not even read, my friend.

 

One healthy alive can help healing process in groups. Basically people are

are gathering in groups like in e-mail-lists, like in prisons, like in

mental-hospitals, _because_ they feel sick inside. Sick minds, sick

bodies, sick fantasies, sick entertainments, sick, sick, sick.

 

And the basic urge to gather in groups is - as far my experience concerns

- is, to strengthen own inner impulse for healing.

 

Therefor you can not escape such energy like CelticMoonDance from our

n0by-gathering simply if you unsubb yourself, my dear. These

CelticMoonDance-energies are everywhere and always. And as long you have

not balanced your own inner CelticMoonDance-Energy with this kind of an

individual disturbance from a group, as long you will look for a next

suffering of the same kind.

 

Until death gives peace - like for Judy's husband on his cancer-deathbed.

 

Even this kind of peace, like your and my beloved Jean-Claude, how can you

ask for this kind of peace for yourself?

 

At the best: you can stay open for all kind of sickness inside and in groups!

 

Now, will you come back again, to continue the unfished quarrels with

CoocooMoonDespair?

 

http://www.n0by.de/n0/ka/ka15.htm

 

(She's the Judy at n0by )

 

 

yours

 

n0by

 

 

with love

 

 

 

http://n0by.de

 

n0by/

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " eric " <vertvetiver> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us>

> wrote:

>>

>> j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner

>> conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All were

>> posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a

>> single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers mean

>> anyone is reading? I think not.

>>

>> Pete

>

> there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is; more

> than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or more

> come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even

> decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry

> repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign that

> something is stinking/living in here)

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n0by you probably have seen my private email by now,

as for healthy i mean, alive and kicking of course nothing more, no

adlerian analysis

eric

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " n0by " <n0by@n...> wrote:

> No, Eric, no

>

> here I can't agree with you. There are not such things

like ''healthy

> groups''! At the best you can find some health inside: means all the

> ''group'' of conditioned different voices inside you can flow like a

> bigger and bigger stream of consciousness towards the ocean.

>

> Then you may feel inside as healthy - no matter if happy or

unhappy, sick

> or good body.

>

> And you will forget about stupid caring for my friend Living Kabir,

being

> troubled by your stupid little letters, he did not even read, my

friend.

>

> One healthy alive can help healing process in groups. Basically

people are

> are gathering in groups like in e-mail-lists, like in prisons, like

in

> mental-hospitals, _because_ they feel sick inside. Sick minds, sick

> bodies, sick fantasies, sick entertainments, sick, sick, sick.

>

> And the basic urge to gather in groups is - as far my experience

concerns

> - is, to strengthen own inner impulse for healing.

>

> Therefor you can not escape such energy like CelticMoonDance from

our

> n0by-gathering simply if you unsubb yourself, my dear. These

> CelticMoonDance-energies are everywhere and always. And as long you

have

> not balanced your own inner CelticMoonDance-Energy with this kind

of an

> individual disturbance from a group, as long you will look for a

next

> suffering of the same kind.

>

> Until death gives peace - like for Judy's husband on his cancer-

deathbed.

>

> Even this kind of peace, like your and my beloved Jean-Claude, how

can you

> ask for this kind of peace for yourself?

>

> At the best: you can stay open for all kind of sickness inside and

in groups!

>

> Now, will you come back again, to continue the unfished quarrels

with

> CoocooMoonDespair?

>

> http://www.n0by.de/n0/ka/ka15.htm

>

> (She's the Judy at n0by )

>

>

> yours

>

> n0by

>

>

> with love

>

>

>

> http://n0by.de

>

> n0by/

>

>

>

> > Nisargadatta , " eric " <vertvetiver>

wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> j_krisnamurty is a list with 374 members. Recently the owner

> >> conducted a poll about the nature of self. Only 5 answer. All

were

> >> posters. There are like ten habitual posters. So, why not even a

> >> single non-poster out of 364, answered? Does membrship numbers

mean

> >> anyone is reading? I think not.

> >>

> >> Pete

> >

> > there is an other statistical way to know how lively a group is;

more

> > than the growth rate: the variation ratio, for example if 5% or

more

> > come and go from a week to the other, the group is healthy, even

> > decreasing would be a good sign; people react at least (like Wry

> > repeatedly anouncing that she wants to leave is a very good sign

that

> > something is stinking/living in here)

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Sure, beloved Eric,

 

people always write slime in private, when they are coward in public,

isn't it true? Even I'm fully aware, that lovely, little letters never

ever change something. Only experience changes. Do you remind the

experience of your relative Jean-Claude? You remind me on Jean-Claude!

 

http://www.n0by.de/n0/Jean-Claude.htm

 

He did not got enuff ''love-reward'' from people. So: did his EGO punished

himself and people with suicide?

 

Don't you have balls, to bring CoocooMoonsDespair in borders? Do you need

to bring yourself on the safe side of the shore? People afraid from

opposite gender hide beyond shelter of Father Superior? Start to write

slime love confessions in private?

 

Come on, coward, can't you use word works of your own, to free the demon?

Your demon inside? What enjoy Demons and Devils better but Bitches?

 

 

 

yours

 

n0by

 

with love

 

 

Enuff healthy alive and kicking of course nothing more, noby-adlerian

analysis?

 

 

 

 

http://n0by.de

 

n0by/

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien "

> <vertvetiver> wrote:

> n0by you probably have seen my private email by now,

> as for healthy i mean, alive and kicking of course nothing more, no

> adlerian analysis

> eric

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