The more I observe...(pete) question

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Hi Shawn,

 

I think Aziz calling instinctual knowing, subtle

thinking is confusing, like calling water, hot ice.

Thinking is to me the conscious juggling of concepts

to gleam new information, and if this juggling, goes

on behind the scene, then is not distracting.

Recognizing a bird song is not thinking is simply

memory.

 

You need not worry about concepts dissapering, they

will always be there ready to be used when needed.

What we need to do is see through them as you did. To

look at things again as for the first time. Do this

just for fun: go out for a walk and pretend you just

stepped out of your flying soccer from your native

Moon. On Earth only rocks are familiar to you, nothing

else has a name or a concept attached. Being

enlightened is something similar to that. You are

always in an enchanting, unfamiliar world, but

magically when you need, or want to think, concepts

appear, and when you need to remember, memories are

there.

 

Pete

 

 

---> From Aziz:

>

> " You see, without some subtle thinking you cannot

> live. Even as you

> sit here, without any particular thought in your

> mind, subtle

> thinking is always present. You hear a bird singing

> – how do you

> recognise it? There is a subtle mind simply present.

> Complete absence

> of thinking designates that one has died! It is the

> gross level of

> thinking, this unconscious inner dialogue which gets

> pacified.

> Intelligence is a movement of subtle thinking. For

> example, when you

> observe the mind, what happens is that the subtle

> thought creates a

> distance from the gross level of thinking. Next, the

> subtle thought

> recognises its very energetic centre of pure

> awareness. In another

> case, you are using the subtle mind to crystallise

> some understanding

> on the more gross level of thinking. For instance,

> you want to

> express something and cannot find the right

> sentence. So you are

> trying with your subtle mind to verbalise yourself.

> Suddenly, the

> right sentence comes to your mind. It was the effort

> of the subtle

> mind which has achieved it. "

>

> My question: If we are to let go of concepts then do

> we not recognise

> the bird singing? Our brain is trained to pattern

> match.

> Whichiswhywecanreadthissentence. How far does this

> go? Is there just

> singing?

>

> Shawn

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