The more I observe...(pete) patterns and rcognition

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Pete, thanks again for replying...

 

> lunch I payed attention to what my tongue does when I

> eat. Pushing

> the food to where the teeth can chew them in such

> perfect timing as

> & gt;not to get bitten itself.

>

> Pete: I think paying attention to the automatic

> workings of your body is taxing your nerves to no

> purpose. It's the workings of the mind, that will bear

> fruit.

 

This was somthing that happened spontaneously. Suddenly I was aware

of my tongue doing what it always does in expert fashion but I had

never paid attention to. It struck me as odd something so intimate I

had no clue about. It was a wonderful moment. I think NM said that

the body functions best when we (ego) get out of the way. Sounds good

to me.

 

 

> The problem is once we file label something as a

> concept we stop

> experiencing the object and from then on experience

> the concept? I

> & gt;caught myself doing this today.

>

> Pete: Very important discovery.

 

Another question if you will...

 

From Aziz: " You see, without some subtle thinking you cannot live.

Even as you sit here, without any particular thought in your mind,

subtle thinking is always present. You hear a bird singing – how do

you recognise it? There is a subtle mind simply present. Complete

absence of thinking designates that one has died! It is the gross

level of thinking, this unconscious inner dialogue which gets

pacified.

Intelligence is a movement of subtle thinking. For example, when you

observe the mind, what happens is that the subtle thought creates a

distance from the gross level of thinking. Next, the subtle thought

recognises its very energetic centre of pure awareness. In another

case, you are using the subtle mind to crystallise some understanding

on the more gross level of thinking. For instance, you want to

express something and cannot find the right sentence. So you are

trying with your subtle mind to verbalise yourself. Suddenly, the

right sentence comes to your mind. It was the effort of the subtle

mind which has achieved it. "

 

If I am free from concepts do I recognise the " bird singing " ? Or is

there just " singing " as the Zen stories would tell us? Do we still

recognise " singing " then? This is hard as a beginner to grasp. Our

mind naturally pattern matches.

Wecanreadasentencelikethisbecauseofthat. If you overhear a loud

conversation you may have to fight to pull your attention away. If

these people are speaking in a language you don't understand your

attention is not pulled. The pattern matching isn't operating. How

far does this go?

 

Shawn