Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Sorry Pete, It's just that it had been almost three days since someone told me my idea " sucks " - and I was so close to a personal record. Larry Nisargadatta, " trem23 " <inmadison@h...> wrote: > Pete, > WOW, them's fighting words. I flatly agreed with yours and Buddha's > words and thot I made that clear. > > I'll admit I altered the TV metaphor a tad. > > Remembering how you recently jumped all over Bill, could you please > give a warning when you are about to have one of your overly > sensitive periods - or is this the warning. > > Larry > > Nisargadatta, " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > There you go. You just followed Buddha's advise and found my > > statement wanting. Good for you! I did the same with yours and it > > frankly sucks. > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " trem23 " <inmadison@h...> wrote: > > > Pete, > > > Every endeavor great or small requires some faith or trust, > whether > > > it's turning on the shower or seeking the Self. Buddha seems to > > find > > > no harm in this as long as it is tempered by > > validation/verification. > > > > > > BTW, asking the TV " Are you the Five O'clock News? " is like > asking > > > your teacher (or anyone else for that matter) " Are you eating > rice? " > > > > > > The question " Are you enlightened? " is impolite and can not be > > > answered without walking into a trap. > > > > > > Have a good lunch, > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote: > > > > Realization has no where to manifest itself but that > > > > in a body-mind organism. Even after having been used > > > > as a realization vehicle, the organism remains an > > > > unreliable vehicle, incapable of sustaining > > > > realization around the clock. Yet seekers will ask the > > > > teacher: " Are you enlightened? " That is like asking a > > > > TV set: " Are you the Five O'clock News? " > > > > > > > > Why do we ask that question? Mainly because we want to > > > > be assured the information we are receiving is > > > > reliable. > > > > Even when someone have been frequently a conduit for > > > > realization it doesn't mean everything he says comes > > > > from that realization. > > > > > > > > Our only standard for judging the veracity of any > > > > statement should be: does it resonate with us, does it > > > > motivate and inspire us, do we find it useful, does it > > > > meet the instant approval of our intuition for truth? > > > > > > > > " Do not believe in anything simply because you have > > > > heard it. Do not > > > > believe in anything simply because it is spoken and > > > > rumored by many. > > > > Do not believe in anything simply because it is found > > > > written in your > > > > religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on > > > > the authority > > > > of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in > > > > traditions because > > > > they have been handed down for many generations. But > > > > after > > > > observation and analysis, when you find that anything > > > > agrees with > > > > reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one > > > > and all, then > > > > accept it and live up to it. " - Buddha > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > > > > http://webhosting./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2002 Report Share Posted October 25, 2002 Never apologize, budd. Whatever you said, is what we needed to hear. Pete --- trem23 <inmadison wrote: > Sorry Pete, > It's just that it had been almost three days since > someone told me > my idea " sucks " - and I was so close to a personal > record. > > Larry > > Nisargadatta, " trem23 " <inmadison@h...> > wrote: > > Pete, > > WOW, them's fighting words. I flatly agreed with > yours and > Buddha's > > words and thot I made that clear. > > > > I'll admit I altered the TV metaphor a tad. > > > > Remembering how you recently jumped all over Bill, > could you > please > > give a warning when you are about to have one of > your overly > > sensitive periods - or is this the warning. > > > > Larry > > > > Nisargadatta, " seesaw1us " > <seesaw1us> wrote: > > > There you go. You just followed Buddha's advise > and found my > > > statement wanting. Good for you! I did the same > with yours and > it > > > frankly sucks. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " trem23 " > <inmadison@h...> wrote: > > > > Pete, > > > > Every endeavor great or small requires some > faith or trust, > > whether > > > > it's turning on the shower or seeking the > Self. Buddha seems > to > > > find > > > > no harm in this as long as it is tempered by > > > validation/verification. > > > > > > > > BTW, asking the TV " Are you the Five O'clock > News? " is like > > asking > > > > your teacher (or anyone else for that matter) > " Are you eating > > rice? " > > > > > > > > The question " Are you enlightened? " is > impolite and can not be > > > > answered without walking into a trap. > > > > > > > > Have a good lunch, > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw > <seesaw1us> wrote: > > > > > Realization has no where to manifest itself > but that > > > > > in a body-mind organism. Even after having > been used > > > > > as a realization vehicle, the organism > remains an > > > > > unreliable vehicle, incapable of sustaining > > > > > realization around the clock. Yet seekers > will ask the > > > > > teacher: " Are you enlightened? " That is like > asking a > > > > > TV set: " Are you the Five O'clock News? " > > > > > > > > > > Why do we ask that question? Mainly because > we want to > > > > > be assured the information we are receiving > is > > > > > reliable. > > > > > Even when someone have been frequently a > conduit for > > > > > realization it doesn't mean everything he > says comes > > > > > from that realization. > > > > > > > > > > Our only standard for judging the veracity > of any > > > > > statement should be: does it resonate with > us, does it > > > > > motivate and inspire us, do we find it > useful, does it > > > > > meet the instant approval of our intuition > for truth? > > > > > > > > > > " Do not believe in anything simply because > you have > > > > > heard it. Do not > > > > > believe in anything simply because it is > spoken and > > > > > rumored by many. > > > > > Do not believe in anything simply because it > is found > > > > > written in your > > > > > religious books. Do not believe in anything > merely on > > > > > the authority > > > > > of your teachers and elders. Do not believe > in > > > > > traditions because > > > > > they have been handed down for many > generations. But > > > > > after > > > > > observation and analysis, when you find that > anything > > > > > agrees with > > > > > reason and is conducive to the good and > benefit of one > > > > > and all, then > > > > > accept it and live up to it. " - Buddha > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your > web site > > > > > http://webhosting./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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