Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 The Lamp of Nondual Knowledge(Advaita Bodha Deepika)Chapter 2:P:26,27 The Removal of the Superimpositioncontinued:Disciple: "What can illusion (maya) be said to be?Master: Neither of the two.It is different from the real substratumand also from the unreal phenomenon.Disciple: Please explain this.12-17. Master: Say there is fire;it is the substratum.The sparks fly off from it.They are the modifications of fire.The sparks are not seen in the fire itself,but come out of it.An observation of this phenomenonmakes us infer a power inherent in firewhich produces the sparks.Clay is the substratum;a hollow sphere with a neck and open mouthis made out of it,and is called a pot.This fact makes us infer a power which is neither clay nor potbut different from both.Water is the substratum;bubbles are its effects;a power different from both is inferred.A seed is the substratum and the sprout, its product;a power different from the seed and the sprout is inferred.The changing individual (jiva)of deep sleep is the substratumand dream is the effect;a power different from the individual (jiva)and the dream is inferredafter waking up from sleep.In the same way the power lying latent inthe Absolute Being (Brahman)produces the illusion of the world (jagat).The substratum of this power isthe Absolute Being (Brahman)and the world (jagat) its effect.This power cannot be either of them,but must be different from both.It cannot be defined.However, it exists.But it remains inscrutable.Therefore we say the 'nature' of illusion (maya) is indescribable." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 Sandeep & Friends, Sandeep, it had to happen eventually that you and I would finally agree on something: > It cannot be defined. > > However, it exists. > > But it remains inscrutable. > > Therefore we say > > the 'nature' of illusion (maya) is indescribable. " This being the case, who knows what unlikely agreements the future may hold for us. Yours in the bonds, eric Nisargadatta, " Sandeep Chatterjee " <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > The Lamp of Nondual Knowledge > > (Advaita Bodha Deepika) > > Chapter 2:P:26,27 The Removal of the Superimposition > continued: > > Disciple: " What can illusion (maya) be said to be? > > Master: Neither of the two. > > It is different from the real substratum > > and also from the unreal phenomenon. > > Disciple: Please explain this. > > 12-17. Master: Say there is fire; > > it is the substratum. > > The sparks fly off from it. > > They are the modifications of fire. > > The sparks are not seen in the fire itself, > > but come out of it. > > An observation of this phenomenon > > makes us infer a power inherent in fire > > which produces the sparks. > > Clay is the substratum; > > a hollow sphere with a neck and open mouth > > is made out of it, > > and is called a pot. > > This fact makes us infer a power > > which is neither clay nor pot > > but different from both. > > Water is the substratum; > > bubbles are its effects; > > a power different from both is inferred. > > A seed is the substratum > > and the sprout, its product; > > a power different from the seed > > and the sprout is inferred. > > The changing individual (jiva) > > of deep sleep is the substratum > > and dream is the effect; > > a power different from the individual (jiva) > > and the dream is inferred > > after waking up from sleep. > > In the same way the power lying latent in > > the Absolute Being (Brahman) > > produces the illusion of the world (jagat). > > The substratum of this power is > > the Absolute Being (Brahman) > > and the world (jagat) its effect. > > This power cannot be either of them, > > but must be different from both. > > It cannot be defined. > > However, it exists. > > But it remains inscrutable. > > Therefore we say > > the 'nature' of illusion (maya) is indescribable. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 Eric:This being the case, who knows what unlikely agreements the future may hold for us. Everything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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