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'Reality Lies in Objectivity'

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Excerpt from 'I Am That'

chapter 19 'Reality Lies in Objectivity'

 

Q: I can see that my world is subjective. Does it make it also

illusory?

M: It is illusory as long as it is subjective and to that extent

only. Reality lies in objectivity.

Q: What does objectivity mean? You said the world is subjective

and now you talk of objectivity. Is not everything subjective?

M: Everything is subjective, but the real is objective.

Q: ln what sense?

M: It does not depend on memories and expectations, desires and

fears, likes and dislikes. All is seen as it is.

Q: Is it what you call the fourth state (turiya)?

M: Call it as you like, It is solid, steady, changeless,

beginning less and endless, ever new, ever fresh.

Q: How is it reached?

M: Desirelessness and fearlessness will take you there.

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