Guest guest Posted February 14, 2001 Report Share Posted February 14, 2001 May 10, 1980 page 2 M: How did I get to the truth that I prevail everlastingly? By meditating on the meditator, by `I Am-ness " merging into `I Am-ness'. Only then did I understand in the same way. Nobody had told me how to do it. I did not seek this knowledge externally. It sprouted within me. 2 I meditated like the Sages and saw a vision. Initially, there was space, and in the space I saw the principles embodies. Actually, they have no bodies, but in my vision they had bodies. I called them Prakriti and Purusha, the male and female aspects of cosmic consciousness. 2 Until the union of the Prakriti and Purusha, the dynamic, all pervading consciousness lay in a dormant state. In the union of the male and female aspects, emissions were planted in the female of these figures. When these emissions merge in the womb they started taking form. After nine months of gestation, an infant was delivered. 2 That consciousness which was planted in the womb was the causal body, the " lingadeha " . In that " lingadeha " , the knowledge `I am' was in a dormant condition. This is what I saw in meditation. 3 Q: How did we lose this pure consciousness state? M: Every being experiences the God state, either directly or potentially, but he is so wrapped up in this objective world that he loses his identity. You must know what this `I Am' principle is. It appears spontaneously and with its appearance begins the riddle of conceptual life. 3 Q: How do I start this search for my Self? M: Start from the very beginning. In this gross world I began with my parents, because I knew full well that my principle was already dwelling there in the collection of their bodily elements out of which eliminated. But I came to the conclusion that I could not be that principle which came from the mother's body. 3 There is no body here who is 100 years old. Does that mean that 100 years ago you did not exist? 3 Q: I don't know. M: The one who said, `I don't know' must have been these; in short, you were not like this, but you must have been something. You must comprehend this correctly. 100 years back I was not like this; So, the one pointing this out must have been there. You did, and do, exist unto eternity. What I am expounding does not relate to worldly knowledge. You do not want to give up either worldly knowledge or so-called spiritual knowledge, and yet, through these worldly concepts, you want to understand the riddle of your existence, and that is precisely why you are not able to understand. 3 In truth, your state is one of Absolute bliss, not this phenomenal state. In that non-phenomenal state you are full of bliss but there is no experience of its presence. In that state there is no trace of misery or unhappiness, only unalloyed bliss. What am I talking about? 4 Q: Ananda (Bliss) M: Because you want some satisfaction according to your own concepts, you try to qualify unalloyed bliss. The term " Ananda " has significance only when it signifies that the bodily being-ness is available to experience it. When you are in deep sleep and you start to see forms, you are actually dreaming. Aren't those dream forms coming from your own being-ness? Whatever you see, even in the waking state, doesn't it come from your own being-ness which is dwelling within the body? In deep sleep, consciousness was in a dormant condition; there were no bodies, no concepts, no encumbrances. Upon the arrival of this apparently wakeful state, with the arrival of the concept `I am', the love of `I am' woke up. That itself is Maya, illusion. 4 Q: Does Maharaj mean that the experiencer of the three states is the Self? M: That is the Saguna Brahman state; because of your being-ness the other states are. The dream world is very old, it is not new. You see old monuments in your dreams. Your being-ness is very powerful. The emergence of this being-ness itself constitutes time. Everything is being-ness, but I, the Absolute, am not that. In meditation, there was space, when suddenly two forms appeared out of no-form, Male and female aspects of the cosmic consciousness, and the quintessence of these forms was the knowledge `I Am'. There were no forms, then suddenly forms appeared, just as in the dream world. 4 You as a dreamer are sleeping on the bed, but in your dream world you see a body and you think it is you, and you are doing everything through this dream body. In that same way, bodies are created in the so-called waking state. The Prakriti and Purusha state has no form and is eternal, having neither a beginning nor an end. But from it come the five elements, and with them, simultaneously, the body is formed at the moment that time is first experienced. This process is ever continuing, with the body-mind merely indicative of the opportunity to experience time. This explanation will not reach home to everyone. At the moment of so-called death, with what identity would you like to depart? Q: As Parabrahman. M: The Absolute, which I call Parabrahman, what is it like? What you are doing is multiplying words with more words, concepts with more concepts. Q: Maharaj must take me out of this. M: Can you define what you are? Q: I must have your blessing to understand what I am. M: You are very adept at word-games. While I am talking about knowledge that is beyond that is beyond this phenomenal world, you are trying to understand through worldly concepts and words. Give up all these concepts and inquire into the nature of your being-ness. How did you happen to be? Ponder it! The real blessing of the Guru comes when your knowledge itself sprouts inside you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Nisargadatta, ameyhng@a... wrote: May 10, 1980 page 2 M: How did I get to the truth that I prevail everlastingly? By meditating on the meditator, by `I Am-ness " merging into `I Am-ness'. Only then did I understand in the same way. Nobody had told me how to do it. I did not seek this knowledge externally. It sprouted within me. -- What attracted El to Maharaj? Reading stuff Maharaj wrote like the above. His bringing me back to what I already knew to be True, that I had long ago forgot. i.e. At 6 years old, in the midst of a very bloody war environment, I had a wordless spontaneous conversation with myself. I (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ) asked myself (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ), where I (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ) was before. This bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " spontaneously merged into this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " and was swallowed up. And what I came away with from that at 6 years old, is, I have always been and I always will be, but w/out a body, this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " isn't present. This Truth was absolutely perfectly acceptable, at 6 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Nisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote: > I (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ) > asked myself (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ), > where I (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " ) > was before. > > This bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " spontaneously > merged into this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " > and was swallowed up. > > And what I came away with from that at 6 years old, is, I have > always been and I always will be, but w/out a body, this bright > shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " isn't present. Dear El, Sometimes Maharaj asks his visitors where they were one hundred years ago. Usually the visitors are either baffled by the question or they respond with a conditional sentence, " if the Self is eternal then I must be.... " You answered Maharaj's question directly from the experience. Thank you. It seems that we're attracted to a particular teacher or teaching when their pointers work best as the " link " to the inexpressible experience by which the pure awareness (call it consciousness, the Spirit etc) animates the form of " i " . Hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " )-- this is what that word " consciousness " stands for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Nisargadatta, elizabethwells2001 wrote: > > (this bright shinny wordless knowing " I am ness " )-- > this is what that word " consciousness " stands for. ----------------------- Maharaj calls this " sense of being " . Maharaj is easy for children to grasp. Simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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