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I have a few words to say.

 

Judy IS a nasty old Tigress! I suppose she's alright, but hers and my

perception are vastly different of Enlightenment. When I arrive There,

and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE and

COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of the Age

of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and Lessen

their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in its

present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing, disasters

almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like. It does Absolutely NO GOOD

TOO SIT and COMPLAIN AND JUDGE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE they are different

than you! Are you also a racist? What else are you intolerant of?

Everything? I pity and like you at the same time! OPEN YOUR EYES AND

HEART,WOMAN! I agree with many of your thoughts,ie, there IS no

separateness, that THIS IS ALL an ILLUSION, and we ALL but have to

Realize this for ourselves, and Understand we are Already Perfect As

we Are!

 

But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an equal

and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101! Creative Universe Takes care of

EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose strawberry, some

choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you don't

believe that, either! Oh, boy.

 

Blessings

Nirmal Kaur

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Like I said, run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist.

 

No kidding.

 

All the best,

Judi

 

 

 

 

 

Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

<sss3333nnn> wrote:

>

> I have a few words to say.

>

> Judy IS a nasty old Tigress! I suppose she's alright, but hers and

my

> perception are vastly different of Enlightenment. When I arrive

There,

> and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE and

> COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of the Age

> of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and Lessen

> their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in its

> present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing, disasters

> almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like. It does Absolutely NO

GOOD

> TOO SIT and COMPLAIN AND JUDGE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE they are

different

> than you! Are you also a racist? What else are you intolerant of?

> Everything? I pity and like you at the same time! OPEN YOUR EYES AND

> HEART,WOMAN! I agree with many of your thoughts,ie, there IS no

> separateness, that THIS IS ALL an ILLUSION, and we ALL but have to

> Realize this for ourselves, and Understand we are Already Perfect As

> we Are!

>

> But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

> judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an equal

> and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101! Creative Universe Takes care

of

> EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose strawberry, some

> choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you don't

> believe that, either! Oh, boy.

>

> Blessings

> Nirmal Kaur

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And I hope this has been a lesson for everyone here, seeing into the

hideous nature of what is pawned off as " spirituality " . It's merely

an emotional problem, " separateness " itself, demonstrating in various

ways and forms, it's own discontent.

 

Judi

 

 

 

Realization , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

>

> Like I said, run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist.

>

> No kidding.

>

> All the best,

> Judi

>

>

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And perhaps Georgia, if and when she ever gets to the bottom of her

" sickness " ,

and sees it for the power trip, the emotional problem that it really is,

she'll come back and share

what she's learned with us. But if and until such time, we'll have to

afford her treatment

as we would a sick animal.

 

Judi

 

 

 

>

>

> And I hope this has been a lesson for everyone here, seeing into the

> hideous nature of what is pawned off as " spirituality " . It's merely

> an emotional problem, " separateness " itself, demonstrating in various

> ways and forms, it's own discontent.

>

> Judi

>

>

>

> Realization , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

> wrote:

>>

>> Like I said, run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist.

>>

>> No kidding.

>>

>> All the best,

>> Judi

>>

>>

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And Georgia's sick bullshit in contrast to this person who just joined the

ranch list:

 

" Seen the oneness, seen us all walking around like puppets from outside of

myself. Had my breath taken away.Need to be brutally honest with myself.

Need

to look / see / inquire deep into me. "

 

And if there's any other mature ones like this fellow here, would love to

have you

join us on the ranch list.

 

TheEndOfTheRopeRanch/

 

Judi

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Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

<sss3333nnn> wrote:

> When I arrive There,

> and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE and

> COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of the Age

> of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and Lessen

> their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in its

> present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing, disasters

> almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like.....

 

If you are speaking about waking up to the truth of who you really

are, first of all you can't know that you will arrive there, and

second you can't know what that will look like. If you've never been

to Sacramento, you don't know what it looks like. You can look at

some pictures of it and say 'that's it', but the picture is not it.

You could also walk out your door tomorrow and get hit by a bus.

Judi could be an awakened being and you'd never know it because you

have some serious concepts running; you're chasing your own tail...:)

 

 

> But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

> judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an equal

> and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101!

 

Karma is the law of polar opposites--for there to be love there has

to be hate, for there to be peace there has to be war. That is the

nature of the phenomenal world. But...it's not tied to a specific

individual's actions. Later in this thread with Judi, you accuse her

of projecting her stuff on to you. You've been hanging out with some

New Age game players somewhere or read about projection. But that is

New Age Game 101. 'You're projecting, no you are, no you are, yada

yada.' The phenomenal world is all projection. That's all there is.

The planet and the whole constellation to which it is connected and

you're connected and, and, and, will sink or swim with or without

your 'help'. That's the tough news.

 

Judi could be a bitch from hell and so could you and you could rip

each other up for two months here and finally the sweet little

buddhist guy over in the corner is going to sigh and say to

himself 'geez, those are a couple of bitches. That doesn't make him

a bitch.

 

....> EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose strawberry, some

> choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you don't

> believe that, either! Oh, boy.

 

No one chooses anything, they just think they do. An awakened being

knows he doesn't choose anything. That's all you get if you get

enlightened. You get enlightened that you're not the doer and you're

doing anything. There is no independent you. That's it.

 

Then you say you've never been to a satsang. You can go to one

sitting at your computer. Go to advaita.org just as one example.

You can listen to clips of Wayne Liquorman or attend a live satsang--

he calls them talks. He is crass, I think he's very funny, but you

may be offended. You can also listen to clips of his guru--Ramesh

Balsekar. More like a guru, gentler, kinder of demeanor. But he was

a banker until he retired, that might not fit your image either. Now

his guru, shouted at people and thru them out of his satsang if they

didn't get it quickly. Awakened beings come in chocolate, vanilla,

boysenberry.

 

So you could check it out, or keep wondering what hit you...and that

isn't determined by you either...you just think it is ; )

 

sue

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Realization , " suebrd " <suebrd@a...> wrote:

>

>

> Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

> <sss3333nnn> wrote:

> > When I arrive There,

> > and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE and

> > COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of the

Age

> > of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and Lessen

> > their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in its

> > present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing,

disasters

> > almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like.....

>

> If you are speaking about waking up to the truth of who you really

> are, first of all you can't know that you will arrive there, and

> second you can't know what that will look like. If you've never

been

> to Sacramento, you don't know what it looks like. You can look at

> some pictures of it and say 'that's it', but the picture is not

it.

> You could also walk out your door tomorrow and get hit by a bus.

> Judi could be an awakened being and you'd never know it because you

> have some serious concepts running; you're chasing your own

tail...:)

>

>

> > But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

> > judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an

equal

> > and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101!

>

> Karma is the law of polar opposites--for there to be love there has

> to be hate, for there to be peace there has to be war. That is the

> nature of the phenomenal world. But...it's not tied to a specific

> individual's actions. Later in this thread with Judi, you accuse

her

> of projecting her stuff on to you. You've been hanging out with

some

> New Age game players somewhere or read about projection. But that

is

> New Age Game 101. 'You're projecting, no you are, no you are, yada

> yada.' The phenomenal world is all projection. That's all there

is.

> The planet and the whole constellation to which it is connected and

> you're connected and, and, and, will sink or swim with or without

> your 'help'. That's the tough news.

>

> Judi could be a bitch from hell and so could you and you could rip

> each other up for two months here and finally the sweet little

> buddhist guy over in the corner is going to sigh and say to

> himself 'geez, those are a couple of bitches. That doesn't make

him

> a bitch.

>

> ...> EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose strawberry,

some

> > choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you don't

> > believe that, either! Oh, boy.

>

> No one chooses anything, they just think they do. An awakened

being

> knows he doesn't choose anything. That's all you get if you get

> enlightened. You get enlightened that you're not the doer and

you're

> doing anything. There is no independent you. That's it.

>

> Then you say you've never been to a satsang. You can go to one

> sitting at your computer. Go to advaita.org just as one example.

> You can listen to clips of Wayne Liquorman or attend a live satsang-

-

> he calls them talks. He is crass, I think he's very funny, but you

> may be offended. You can also listen to clips of his guru--Ramesh

> Balsekar. More like a guru, gentler, kinder of demeanor. But he

was

> a banker until he retired, that might not fit your image either.

Now

> his guru, shouted at people and thru them out of his satsang if

they

> didn't get it quickly. Awakened beings come in chocolate, vanilla,

> boysenberry.

>

> So you could check it out, or keep wondering what hit you...and

that

> isn't determined by you either...you just think it is ; )

>

> sue

 

 

************

Your notion that there are " awakened beings " is merely a

demonstration of your own " egotism " .

 

Perhaps it's no wonder why Wayne threw you off his list?

You can only take so much of that shit.

 

Judi

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Everyone knows this: Whatever views someone presents as theirs is

indicative of that persons unique conditioning and therefore does

not have any meaning for us unless we go into agreement with what is

offered.

 

Judi et al are doing show and tell here.

 

Judi is like a volcano. Get in its way and you get burned, watch it

from a vantage point and it is very interesting and sometimes

enlightening.

 

Metta,

Alton

 

 

 

 

 

Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

>

> Realization , " suebrd " <suebrd@a...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

> > <sss3333nnn> wrote:

> > > When I arrive There,

> > > and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE

and

> > > COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of

the

> Age

> > > of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and

Lessen

> > > their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in

its

> > > present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing,

> disasters

> > > almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like.....

> >

> > If you are speaking about waking up to the truth of who you

really

> > are, first of all you can't know that you will arrive there, and

> > second you can't know what that will look like. If you've never

> been

> > to Sacramento, you don't know what it looks like. You can look

at

> > some pictures of it and say 'that's it', but the picture is not

> it.

> > You could also walk out your door tomorrow and get hit by a

bus.

> > Judi could be an awakened being and you'd never know it because

you

> > have some serious concepts running; you're chasing your own

> tail...:)

> >

> >

> > > But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

> > > judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an

> equal

> > > and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101!

> >

> > Karma is the law of polar opposites--for there to be love there

has

> > to be hate, for there to be peace there has to be war. That is

the

> > nature of the phenomenal world. But...it's not tied to a

specific

> > individual's actions. Later in this thread with Judi, you

accuse

> her

> > of projecting her stuff on to you. You've been hanging out with

> some

> > New Age game players somewhere or read about projection. But

that

> is

> > New Age Game 101. 'You're projecting, no you are, no you are,

yada

> > yada.' The phenomenal world is all projection. That's all

there

> is.

> > The planet and the whole constellation to which it is connected

and

> > you're connected and, and, and, will sink or swim with or

without

> > your 'help'. That's the tough news.

> >

> > Judi could be a bitch from hell and so could you and you could

rip

> > each other up for two months here and finally the sweet little

> > buddhist guy over in the corner is going to sigh and say to

> > himself 'geez, those are a couple of bitches. That doesn't make

> him

> > a bitch.

> >

> > ...> EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose

strawberry,

> some

> > > choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you

don't

> > > believe that, either! Oh, boy.

> >

> > No one chooses anything, they just think they do. An awakened

> being

> > knows he doesn't choose anything. That's all you get if you get

> > enlightened. You get enlightened that you're not the doer and

> you're

> > doing anything. There is no independent you. That's it.

> >

> > Then you say you've never been to a satsang. You can go to one

> > sitting at your computer. Go to advaita.org just as one

example.

> > You can listen to clips of Wayne Liquorman or attend a live

satsang-

> -

> > he calls them talks. He is crass, I think he's very funny, but

you

> > may be offended. You can also listen to clips of his guru--

Ramesh

> > Balsekar. More like a guru, gentler, kinder of demeanor. But

he

> was

> > a banker until he retired, that might not fit your image

either.

> Now

> > his guru, shouted at people and thru them out of his satsang if

> they

> > didn't get it quickly. Awakened beings come in chocolate,

vanilla,

> > boysenberry.

> >

> > So you could check it out, or keep wondering what hit you...and

> that

> > isn't determined by you either...you just think it is ; )

> >

> > sue

>

>

> ************

> Your notion that there are " awakened beings " is merely a

> demonstration of your own " egotism " .

>

> Perhaps it's no wonder why Wayne threw you off his list?

> You can only take so much of that shit.

>

> Judi

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Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

<sss3333nnn> wrote:

>

> I have a few words to say.

>

> Judy IS a nasty old Tigress! I suppose she's alright, but hers and

my

> perception are vastly different of Enlightenment. When I arrive

There,

> and I will, soon,(In my mind) I WILL BE , AND AM FULL OF LOVE and

> COMPASSION to ALL my Fellow Human Beings, in this Dawning of the Age

> of Aquarius, to perhaps, maybe, even touch a few Lives and Lessen

> their Sufferring, as this Planet Earth could use some Help in its

> present state of such utter Misery, war, famine, killing, disasters

> almost yearly such as Tsunami and the like. It does Absolutely NO

GOOD

> TOO SIT and COMPLAIN AND JUDGE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE they are

different

> than you! Are you also a racist? What else are you intolerant of?

> Everything? I pity and like you at the same time! OPEN YOUR EYES AND

> HEART,WOMAN! I agree with many of your thoughts,ie, there IS no

> separateness, that THIS IS ALL an ILLUSION, and we ALL but have to

> Realize this for ourselves, and Understand we are Already Perfect As

> we Are!

>

> But, to so brutally attack another, and be so intolerant and

> judjmental, all I can say is: KARMA: for every act there is an equal

> and just RE-action. UNIVERSAL LAW 101! Creative Universe Takes care

of

> EVERYTHING! I AM not worried! Some people choose strawberry, some

> choose chocolate! Spread Love, and Pack Light! I guess you don't

> believe that, either! Oh, boy.

>

> Blessings

> Nirmal Kaur

 

I've been the fiery buddha from time to time...that's what I call it

anyway...like I know anything about buddhism! Got it from a

mandala. LOL I'm not going to pretend that I don't favor pleasure

over pain, because I do...but I know both have a lesson for ya, if

you wanna experience'em like that. If anything she says strikes

home, let it hurt, explore it fully. It's a frickin gift. <shrug>

I recognized a few of my own reactions from Judi. LOL Christianity

thing I've explored, not ready to let go of yet, and jealousy because

I haven't had a good lashing for a while. LOL Remember, happiness

and enjoyment are a choice, but so is suffering.

 

Jeremy.

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