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Sat nam, and Greetings to All,

 

I AM also on the Path To Enlightenment, a devout spiritual aspirant,

in Direct Communion with God; practice meditation twice daily along

with my regular practice of Kundalini yoga.

 

I AM preparing to begin teaching KY, as taught by Yogi Bhajan,( who

crossed over last October);on, Monday, March, 14th.

 

I have been a spiritual-seeker for over 25 years, but only practiced

KY since April, 2004, when I, by " accident', found a marvelous book

about KY in a bookstore. My SOUL at Last, found It's home! I have been

on an AMAZING JOURNEY ever since, and I AM most Happy to share The

Light within myself to others!

 

I currently live within Shakti(LOVE) and Bhakti (DEVOTION), immersing

INto THE Field of Superconsciousness, and waiting, while still

carrying on my worldly duties to a husband and five year-old twin sons!

 

We live most happily in Athens, Greece. I AM American, my husband,

German, my sons born in Germany.

 

Nice to BE aboard!

 

In Love, Light and Blessings,

Nirmal Kaur

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Run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist!

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

> Sat nam, and Greetings to All,

>

> I AM also on the Path To Enlightenment, a devout spiritual aspirant,

> in Direct Communion with God; practice meditation twice daily along

> with my regular practice of Kundalini yoga.

>

> I AM preparing to begin teaching KY, as taught by Yogi Bhajan,( who

> crossed over last October);on, Monday, March, 14th.

>

> I have been a spiritual-seeker for over 25 years, but only practiced

> KY since April, 2004, when I, by " accident', found a marvelous book

> about KY in a bookstore. My SOUL at Last, found It's home! I have been

> on an AMAZING JOURNEY ever since, and I AM most Happy to share The

> Light within myself to others!

>

> I currently live within Shakti(LOVE) and Bhakti (DEVOTION), immersing

> INto THE Field of Superconsciousness, and waiting, while still

> carrying on my worldly duties to a husband and five year-old twin sons!

>

> We live most happily in Athens, Greece. I AM American, my husband,

> German, my sons born in Germany.

>

> Nice to BE aboard!

>

> In Love, Light and Blessings,

> Nirmal Kaur

>

>

>

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" Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes

<Realization >

Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:40 AM

Re: Introduction

 

 

>

> Run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist!

>

 

********** You obviously have a deep-rooted emotional problem that

you're parading around as though it's a " spiritual " matter.

 

All the best to you in working it out,

Judi

 

 

 

>>

>> Sat nam, and Greetings to All,

>>

>> I AM also on the Path To Enlightenment, a devout spiritual aspirant,

>> in Direct Communion with God; practice meditation twice daily along

>> with my regular practice of Kundalini yoga.

>>

>> I AM preparing to begin teaching KY, as taught by Yogi Bhajan,( who

>> crossed over last October);on, Monday, March, 14th.

>>

>> I have been a spiritual-seeker for over 25 years, but only practiced

>> KY since April, 2004, when I, by " accident', found a marvelous book

>> about KY in a bookstore. My SOUL at Last, found It's home! I have been

>> on an AMAZING JOURNEY ever since, and I AM most Happy to share The

>> Light within myself to others!

>>

>> I currently live within Shakti(LOVE) and Bhakti (DEVOTION), immersing

>> INto THE Field of Superconsciousness, and waiting, while still

>> carrying on my worldly duties to a husband and five year-old twin sons!

>>

>> We live most happily in Athens, Greece. I AM American, my husband,

>> German, my sons born in Germany.

>>

>> Nice to BE aboard!

>>

>> In Love, Light and Blessings,

>> Nirmal Kaur

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ..........INFORMATION ABOUT THIS LIST..........

>>

>> Email addresses:

>> Post message: Realization

>> Un: Realization-

>> Our web address: http://www.realization.org

>>

>> By sending a message to this list, you are giving

>> permission to have it reproduced as a letter on

>> http://www.realization.org

>> ................................................

>>

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http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/judi-1.htm

TheEndOfTheRopeRanch/

 

 

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>

>>

>> Run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist!

>>

>

> ********** You obviously have a deep-rooted emotional problem that

> you're parading around as though it's a " spiritual " matter.

>

> All the best to you in working it out,

> Judi

>

 

*************

So if you guys are here thinking that you're eventually gonna turn

into a Buddha or a Jesus, a non-dual realizer, get Enlightened,

guess again, that's not the way it works, it's a very rare occurance,

a freak of nature when it does happen, it's not something in your control.

But what is in your control is seeing to your personal emotional problem,

which every one of you are dealing with, or you wouldn't be on this list or

dabbling in matters " spiritual " (read:Emotional).

As Jesus put it, " Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. "

See to it.

 

All the best!

Judi

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Greetings,

 

Dear lady, I do not know who raised you, but you have NO manners, and

if you think you are on the path to enlightenment with your

mis-information and error in thinking, you HAVE NO control over YOUR

enlightenment, and Will surely wait several lifetimes!!!

 

I did not come here to argue. If this is a sample of " enlightened "

beings, I chose the wrong group! However, I AM NOT leaving, if that's

what you think! Please, somebody else, that HAS a Little Heart and

Soul, take a stand!

 

Do you not Realize there are MANY paths to God? Kundalini yoga is but

one, obviously no one is familar with. By practice and regulation of

the nervous system via Krias, Pranayama, Mantra, we Self-Actualize AND

BECOME ONE With GOD, as taught by Yogi Bhajan. There are many more.

Have you not heard of them? Or is this way THE only way for you? How

sad. And un-fortunate. One of the greatest Gifts of Humanity is

Compassion, and I feel it for you, dear sister. May the Light of God

Bring you out of Darkness To a place where you feel No Fear or hatred.

 

We are Here TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! THAT is, I

believe, where the Heart needs TO BE before ANYTHING can happen!!!

 

IN LOVE, PEACE, and LIGHT,

Nirmal Kaur

> >> Run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist!

> > ********** You obviously have a deep-rooted emotional problem that

> > you're parading around as though it's a " spiritual " matter.

> >

> > All the best to you in working it out,

> > Judi

> So if you guys are here thinking that you're eventually gonna turn

> into a Buddha or a Jesus, a non-dual realizer, get Enlightened,

> guess again, that's not the way it works, it's a very rare occurance,

> a freak of nature when it does happen, it's not something in your

control.

> But what is in your control is seeing to your personal emotional

problem,

> which every one of you are dealing with, or you wouldn't be on this

list or

> dabbling in matters " spiritual " (read:Emotional).

> As Jesus put it, " Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. "

> See to it.

>

> All the best!

> Judi

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Like I said, you have a personal emotional problem that needs looking

into. And you're avoiding it, by parading it around as though it's

something " spiritual " .

 

Self-realization 101.

 

All the best,

Judi

 

 

 

Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

<sss3333nnn> wrote:

>

> Greetings,

>

> Dear lady, I do not know who raised you, but you have NO manners,

and

> if you think you are on the path to enlightenment with your

> mis-information and error in thinking, you HAVE NO control over YOUR

> enlightenment, and Will surely wait several lifetimes!!!

>

> I did not come here to argue. If this is a sample of " enlightened "

> beings, I chose the wrong group! However, I AM NOT leaving, if

that's

> what you think! Please, somebody else, that HAS a Little Heart and

> Soul, take a stand!

>

> Do you not Realize there are MANY paths to God? Kundalini yoga is

but

> one, obviously no one is familar with. By practice and regulation of

> the nervous system via Krias, Pranayama, Mantra, we Self-Actualize

AND

> BECOME ONE With GOD, as taught by Yogi Bhajan. There are many more.

> Have you not heard of them? Or is this way THE only way for you? How

> sad. And un-fortunate. One of the greatest Gifts of Humanity is

> Compassion, and I feel it for you, dear sister. May the Light of God

> Bring you out of Darkness To a place where you feel No Fear or

hatred.

>

> We are Here TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER! THAT is, I

> believe, where the Heart needs TO BE before ANYTHING can happen!!!

>

> IN LOVE, PEACE, and LIGHT,

> Nirmal Kaur

> > >> Run, do not walk, to your nearest psycho-therapist!

> > > ********** You obviously have a deep-rooted emotional problem

that

> > > you're parading around as though it's a " spiritual " matter.

> > >

> > > All the best to you in working it out,

> > > Judi

> > So if you guys are here thinking that you're eventually gonna turn

> > into a Buddha or a Jesus, a non-dual realizer, get Enlightened,

> > guess again, that's not the way it works, it's a very rare

occurance,

> > a freak of nature when it does happen, it's not something in your

> control.

> > But what is in your control is seeing to your personal emotional

> problem,

> > which every one of you are dealing with, or you wouldn't be on

this

> list or

> > dabbling in matters " spiritual " (read:Emotional).

> > As Jesus put it, " Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. "

> > See to it.

> >

> > All the best!

> > Judi

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Realization , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

>

> Like I said, you have a personal emotional problem that needs

looking

> into. And you're avoiding it, by parading it around as though it's

> something " spiritual " .

>

> Self-realization 101.

>

> All the best,

> Judi

>

>

********

Oh, and something else, you are not going anywhere.

 

" Your noble search for God is but a sly dodge. "

 

Judi

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You want out

You want escape

You want relief.

 

You meditate

To block out life

You chant

To pu the world on hold.

You pray

To get what you want.

You take drugs

To get there faster.

 

Ram Tzu knows this...

 

Your noble search for God

Is but a sly dodge.

 

*

 

You like the idea of

Being on a journey.

 

You like the idea

That you're going somewhere.

 

You think

If you're going somewhere

You might get somewhere.

 

You're seduced by

The prospect of progress.

 

It's a measure of your discontent.

 

Ram Tzu knows this...

 

You can't get here

From there.

 

*

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What people consider as " spiritual " is really a " personal " ,

emotional problem. That's all it is. And at the heart of that emotional

problem, is " separation " , paraded around as " self-identity " .

 

So, you see, for as long as you can remember, your whole life,

this problem, this " thorn " of " identity " has been with you. " You " are

your own very problem that you seek to somehow overcome. And it can't

be done! You can never " overcome " it, it can only be exposed, seen

for what it is, who " you " are.

 

Surrender, " expose " your self and thereby you will come to under-

stand your self.

 

Leave any notion of " God " or " Beyond " or " Enlightenment "

or " spiritual " crap of any sort out of it. It's all about " you " .

 

Understanding you.

 

Judi

 

I agree, Judi.

 

So, " spirituality " often is a dodge.

 

Unless it involves a balanced, rational awareness

that understands the value of nonavoidance,

spirituality can be an attempt to use emotionalism,

idealization, and repetition of mantra-like ideas

as a means to try to stabilize an unstable self.

And that attempt usually fails, and so denial

is required as part of the " spiritual being. "

 

It gives the word " spirituality " a negative connotation.

 

-- Dan

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There's no way out of looking at

oneself. Not as an object, but in terms

of activity.

 

Particularly, it is essential to be clear on

the activity based on a divide

between me and not-me.

 

Without inquriy here, now, where this takes

place, nothing else can substitute

for inquiry (humor, practices,

rituals, prayers, repeating teachings, hanging

out with teachers, self-affirmations).

 

There is pain and disturbance here, where

this activity is occuring, due to clinging

and avoidance. This is not a psychological

investigation, it is inquiry into the

clinging to the psychological position itself,

and avoidance of being aware of the activity.

 

It's not away to maintain a happy spiritual persona,

because the activity of spiritual adventuring is

understood as another version of

self-separation, an activity that tends to reinforce

itself.

 

Saying " there's no one to do any such activity "

is a sidestep, because the activity *is* the

sense of someone existing separately.

 

-- Dan

 

**********

Yes, thanks for this, it's all but the game of avoidance.

Avoidance of directly looking into who one is, before any

great, or otherwise, " adventure " .

 

Judi

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Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

> So the bottom line here Georgia, do yourself, your family and the

world a

> favor, cut the crap!

>

> Judi

 

*********

If you haven't done significant damage to your children already. I'm

sure they already sense, " something's the matter with Mommie. "

 

Judi

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> Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

> wrote:

>> So the bottom line here Georgia, do yourself, your family and the

> world a

>> favor, cut the crap!

>>

>> Judi

>

> *********

> If you haven't done significant damage to your children already. I'm

> sure they already sense, " something's the matter with Mommie. "

>

> Judi

>

************

And much less your husband who is probably wishing he was with someone

who was " healthy " , " here " and otherwise " contented " , instead of with

someone

chasing their ass around, " disturbed " , trying to get somewhere " else " ,

trying to be " somebody "

that they're not and never will be.

 

Does your husband know you're here on the net chasing around?

 

Judi

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Realization , " Georgia Victoria Weinkauf "

<sss3333nnn> wrote:

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>

> Sat nam, and Greetings to All,

 

Hi, and welcome. I'm pretty new here myself. The place seems pretty

allright. :> Hope we can teach one another something. LOL Didn't

mention it to everyone, but I too am married and I have a lil girl

who's going to be 3 this year. She has the power to bring out the

best and worst of me. :> That is how I choose to live. Welcome.

 

Jeremy.

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> *************

> So if you guys are here thinking that you're eventually gonna turn

> into a Buddha or a Jesus, a non-dual realizer, get Enlightened,

> guess again, that's not the way it works, it's a very rare

occurance,

> a freak of nature when it does happen, it's not something in your

control.

> But what is in your control is seeing to your personal emotional

problem,

> which every one of you are dealing with, or you wouldn't be on this

list or

> dabbling in matters " spiritual " (read:Emotional).

> As Jesus put it, " Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. "

> See to it.

>

> All the best!

> Judi

 

LOL Hi Judi. Actually, I came here to find other people with

similar experiences. I'd agree with ya on the point that if someone

has a problem, they shouldn't seek enlightenment or whatever as an

escape. I disagree with the way you present yourself though. Jesus

said that, but lived compassion. People have real problems and don't

know they have a choice. You can try to make yourself feel better by

looking down on them, but it's much more rewarding to sympathize with

them. ;> I don't know about this freak of nature thing, but I have

been successful with leading people to a state of self-realization.

I use a method of discrimination/contemplation. I didn't learn it

was a documented yogic way until much later.-LOL Rather simple

though, Body. Are you your body? What about a soul? Do you believe

in a soul? Are you a body with a soul or a soul with a body? Which

one dies? That in itself is a shift in awareness for most here in

Indiana. I can lead ya there with words, but if it doesn't happen,

it doesn't happen.

 

Jeremy.

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> LOL Hi Judi. Actually, I came here to find other people with

> similar experiences. I'd agree with ya on the point that if someone

> has a problem, they shouldn't seek enlightenment or whatever as an

> escape. I disagree with the way you present yourself though. Jesus

> said that, but lived compassion. People have real problems and don't

> know they have a choice. You can try to make yourself feel better by

> looking down on them, but it's much more rewarding to sympathize with

> them. ;>

 

******* If I believed in them, they'd have my sympathies, but

seeings how it's only all a bunch of bullshit, I can hardly sympathize.

 

Surely, you must be kidding?

 

Judi

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Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

> >

> > Realization , " Judi Rhodes "

<judirhodes@c...>

> > wrote:

> >> So the bottom line here Georgia, do yourself, your family and the

> > world a

> >> favor, cut the crap!

> >>

> >> Judi

> >

> > *********

> > If you haven't done significant damage to your children already.

I'm

> > sure they already sense, " something's the matter with Mommie. "

> >

> > Judi

> >

> ************

> And much less your husband who is probably wishing he was with

someone

> who was " healthy " , " here " and otherwise " contented " , instead of

with

> someone

> chasing their ass around, " disturbed " , trying to get

somewhere " else " ,

> trying to be " somebody "

> that they're not and never will be.

>

> Does your husband know you're here on the net chasing around?

>

> Judi

 

You know, those demons are on the mandala because they too are

buddhas. You just don't always recognize'em. ;)

 

Jeremy.

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Realization , " Judi Rhodes " <judirhodes@c...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> >

> > LOL Hi Judi. Actually, I came here to find other people with

> > similar experiences. I'd agree with ya on the point that if

someone

> > has a problem, they shouldn't seek enlightenment or whatever as

an

> > escape. I disagree with the way you present yourself though.

Jesus

> > said that, but lived compassion. People have real problems and

don't

> > know they have a choice. You can try to make yourself feel

better by

> > looking down on them, but it's much more rewarding to sympathize

with

> > them. ;>

>

> ******* If I believed in them, they'd have my sympathies, but

> seeings how it's only all a bunch of bullshit, I can hardly

sympathize.

>

> Surely, you must be kidding?

>

> Judi

 

Putting it short, you seemed like such a hypocrite quoting jesus, and

then babbling a bunch of drivel. Why post to'em if you didn't

believe you could evoke change? Uh-huh. :> Kidding? Nah, wasn't

kidding...just reacted without knowing.

 

Jeremy.

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