Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 Just a look from another perspective about the recent events in New York. How many of us would want to rent a Movie which has people living peacefully? No violence or sex, no suffering, no tension, just boring people moving about happily, peacefully with permanent smiles on their faces? I don't think anybody would make such a movie! So why do you want God to watch such a movie? Afterall this is his movie, his dream isn't it? Even if you don't believe in non-dualism, assuming you were given a choice of which life you wanted to lead on earth [in order to take a small holiday from the boredom of heaven] would you not choose a life with pain, suffering, etc.? So that when you returned to God you could appreciate the peacefulness there! Just thinking for the big guy up there!:-) ______________________ With Love, Cyber Dervish ```````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Dear Jan, > So why do you want God to watch > such a movie? After all this is his movie, > his dream isn't it? In the U.S., we no longer allow animals to be hurt when they are filmed in movies. It would be nice if God adopted a similar policy. Best regards, Rob - " Jan Sultan " <swork <sworkalpha Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:46 AM God's Movie > Just a look from another perspective about the > recent events in New York... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Dear Gary, > Jan's reflections demonstrate the sort of > incoherence even bright minds get mired in > when they start with God, Awareness, > Subjectivity, and the like instead of the more > obvious and humble world of ordinary human > experience.... You may find his position distasteful but it seems perfectly coherent to me. The empirical world is a show and God is the observer. A venerable philosophical thesis, as much Berkeley as Vedanta. Here's Plotinus saying the same thing: " Murders, death in all its shapes, the capture and sacking of towns, all must be considered as so much stage-show, so many shiftings of scenes, the horror and outcry of a play; for here too, in all the changing doom of life, it is not the true man, the inner soul that grieves and laments but merely the phantasm of the man, the outer man, playing his part on the boards of the world. " (Enneads, III.2.15.) Perhaps Jan raised your hackles, Gary, because his view seems immoral in the present context. But the Plotinus quotation shows that the doctrine stems from deeply moral impulses, the desire to reconcile a benign God with the terrible world we live in. Best regards, Rob - " Gary Schouborg " <garyscho " Realization " <Realization > Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:45 PM God's Movie > Jan's reflections demonstrate the sort of > incoherence even bright minds get > mired in when they start with God, > Awareness, Subjectivity, and the like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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