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Quoting TAMurdock <TAMurdock:

> TAMurdock

>

> Sooooooooooo.........let's pick a topic to discuss. Since I am a neophyte and

> open to just about anything, any tantrikas out there or anyone who has

> researched tantric practice and philosophy?

>

> Teresa

>

 

Perhaps we could place tantric practice in perspective -- that is

Tibetan Buddhist tantric practice since I know nothing of other tantric

practices. A teacher once said there are three broad catagories of

teachings which can be broken down more finely but for general

illustration these three give one the general idea. They are sutric,

tantric, and ati yoga or dzogchen teachings.

 

He declared that all three paths lead to realization -- differences

being mainly in the capacity of the individual as to which is more

beneficial. No path is better or worse -- they all work.

 

The sutric path is primarily the path of renunciation ie: you renounce

doing unskillful actions that delay your progress. You follow lots of

rules. It can take a long time or it can evolve into the tantric

practices. Think of a poison -- this path simply avoids the poison

through its rules.

 

The tantric path is primarily the path of transformation. You transform

strong emotions into useful energies which lead towards realization.

Results normally come much quicker than in the sutric path. An analogy

may be that this path transforms the poison into a useful medicine.

 

The dzogchen path is the path of self-liberation. You simply watch all

thoughts and energies arising and returning to voidness. You dwell in

luminosity and clarity. Think of the poison being eaten by a peacock

which simply makes it more beautiful.

 

The dzogchen teachings are the non-dual teachings. Results come more

quickly but it is also quite easy to delude oneself that they are

dwelling in the non-dual condition.

 

These few words simply try to place the three paths in context.

 

More learned and experienced persons may wish to continue from this

point.

 

Victor

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