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Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal.  I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil  Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

[http://groups.google.commintamil/msg/d4cac5981e9eb09a?] ஆயரà¯à®•à®³à¯ à®à®±à¯à®±à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! அயோதà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®°à¯ வேநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! -

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Sri nalini Persad,

  Here is what Ilango Adikal sings on Thirumal. You need not be in search of a hard book.

 

வடவரையை மதà¯à®¤à¯ ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, வாசà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à¯ˆ நாண௠ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, கடல௠வணà¯à®£à®©à¯! பணà¯à®Ÿà¯ ஒர௠நாள௠கடல௠வயிற௠கலகà¯à®•à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®•à®²à®•à¯à®•à®¿à®¯ கை அசோதையார௠கடை கயிறà¯à®±à®¾à®²à¯ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯à®£à¯ கை மலரà¯à®•à¯ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 1'அற௠பொரà¯à®³à¯ இவனà¯' எனà¯à®±à¯‡, அமரர௠கணம௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤, 

உற௠பசி ஒனà¯à®±à¯ இனà¯à®±à®¿à®¯à¯‡, உலக௠அடைய உணà¯à®Ÿà®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®‰à®£à¯à®Ÿ வாய௠களவினால௠உறி வெணà¯à®£à¯†à®¯à¯ உணà¯à®Ÿ வாயà¯Â à®µà®£à¯ தà¯à®´à®¾à®¯à¯ மாலையாயà¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 2திரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அமரர௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®®à¯ திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯! நின௠செங௠கமலஇரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அடியால௠மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ இரà¯à®³à¯ தீர நடநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡;

நடநà¯à®¤ அடி பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூத௠ஆக நடநà¯à®¤ அடி; மடஙà¯à®•à®²à®¾à®¯à¯! மாற௠அடà¯à®Ÿà®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 3மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ ஈர௠அடியான௠மà¯à®±à¯ˆ நிரமà¯à®ªà®¾à®µà®•à¯ˆ à®®à¯à®Ÿà®¿à®¯à®¤à¯Â à®¤à®¾à®µà®¿à®¯ சேவடி சேபà¯à®ª, தமà¯à®ªà®¿à®¯à¯Šà®Ÿà¯à®®à¯ கான௠போநà¯à®¤à¯, சேர அரணà¯à®®à¯ போர௠மடிய, தொல௠இலஙà¯à®•à¯ˆ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯ அழிதà¯à®¤Â 

சேவகன௠சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? 1பெரியவனை; மாயவனை; பேர௠உலகம௠எலà¯à®²à®¾à®®à¯Â à®µà®¿à®°à®¿ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿ உடை விணà¯à®£à®µà®©à¯ˆ; கணà¯à®£à¯à®®à¯, திரà¯à®µà®Ÿà®¿à®¯à¯à®®à¯, கையà¯à®®à¯, திர௠வாயà¯à®®à¯, செயà¯à®¯Â à®•à®°à®¿à®¯à®µà®©à¯ˆ; காணாத கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? 

கண௠இமைதà¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ காணà¯à®ªà®¾à®°à¯-தம௠கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? 2மடம௠தாழà¯à®®à¯ நெஞà¯à®šà®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ கஞà¯à®šà®©à®¾à®°à¯ வஞà¯à®šà®®à¯Â à®•à®Ÿà®¨à¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; நூறà¯à®±à¯à®µà®°à¯à®ªà®¾à®²à¯ நால௠திசையà¯à®®à¯ போறà¯à®±, படரà¯à®¨à¯à®¤à¯ ஆரணம௠மà¯à®´à®™à¯à®•, பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூதà¯Â à®¨à®Ÿà®¨à¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; à®à®¤à¯à®¤à®¾à®¤ நா எனà¯à®© நாவே? 

'நாராயணா!' எனà¯à®©à®¾ நா எனà¯à®© நாவேAdiyen,Dasan,Thiruppathi RaguveeradayalC/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,THIRUPPULLANI 62353204567-254242//919443301091

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Sri Nalini Persad,

  adiyen dasasya vignaapanam. adiyen feel pity for you. In a forum where many great scholars exhibit themselves as knowing nothing and declare quite often that they are continuously learning, you assert that you have read much, while it seems you have not learnt anything.  Literatures, especially Sri vaishnava literatures and in particular the works of Azhwars must not be read they should be enjoyed. Had you ever enjoyed Azhwars, you would not have preferred to make such a comment. It is always wrong to make comments with our memory. You must have referred to the Naalaayiram before writing this reply. True Ilango Adikal has praised so beautifully in his Aycchier kuravai in Silappathikaaram. Please go through once again Periazhwar thirumozhi and Silappathikaaram to realise your fault. Atleast in future try to avoid such half-baked comments. Do not allow yourselves to be ridiculed. Adiyen is extremely sorry to be harsh in my reply.

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2010/2/28 Nalini Persad <nalini.persad

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal.  I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil  Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

[http://groups.google.commintamil/msg/d4cac5981e9eb09a?] ஆயரà¯à®•à®³à¯ à®à®±à¯à®±à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! அயோதà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®°à¯ வேநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! -

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The citation has been correctly given. Better be sure of your comments before making them public.

Raghavachari.

 

 

 

Nalini Persad <nalini.persadandavan Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:03:08 AMRe: [பà¯à®²à¯à®²à®¾à®£à®¿à®ªà¯à®ªà®•à¯à®•à®™à¯à®•à®³à¯] ஆயரà¯à®•à®³à¯ à®à®±à¯à®±à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! அயோதà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®°à¯ வேநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப...

 

Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal. I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

 

 

 

[http://groups. google.com/ group/mintamil/ msg/d4cac5981e9e b09a?] ஆயரà¯à®•à®³à¯ à®à®±à¯à®±à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! அயோதà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®°à¯ வேநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! -மினà¯à®¤à®®à®¿à®´à¯ |Google Groups --Posted By thiruthiru to பà¯à®²à¯à®²à®¾à®£à®¿à®ªà¯à®ªà®•à¯à®•à®™à¯à®•à®³à¯ at 2/28/2010 02:15:00 AM

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dear sir

 

it is very kind of you to send me the verses which I have memorised since age 19. this is the cause which made me mix up the pasurams of the alvar with that of Aycciyar kuravai of the Cilappatikaram. I do have the fortune of million of books at my disposals, without having matching memory! please do forgive this oversight.

 

i am grateful to you for jogging my memory.

 

with humble namaskarams

 

mrs nalini persad

2010/3/1 T.Raguveeradayal <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

Sri nalini Persad,

  Here is what Ilango Adikal sings on Thirumal. You need not be in search of a hard book.

 

 

வடவரையை மதà¯à®¤à¯ ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, வாசà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à¯ˆ நாண௠ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, கடல௠வணà¯à®£à®©à¯! பணà¯à®Ÿà¯ ஒர௠நாள௠கடல௠வயிற௠கலகà¯à®•à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®•à®²à®•à¯à®•à®¿à®¯ கை அசோதையார௠கடை கயிறà¯à®±à®¾à®²à¯ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯à®£à¯ கை மலரà¯à®•à¯ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 1'அற௠பொரà¯à®³à¯ இவனà¯' எனà¯à®±à¯‡, அமரர௠கணம௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤, 

உற௠பசி ஒனà¯à®±à¯ இனà¯à®±à®¿à®¯à¯‡, உலக௠அடைய உணà¯à®Ÿà®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®‰à®£à¯à®Ÿ வாய௠களவினால௠உறி வெணà¯à®£à¯†à®¯à¯ உணà¯à®Ÿ வாயà¯Â à®µà®£à¯ தà¯à®´à®¾à®¯à¯ மாலையாயà¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 2திரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அமரர௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®®à¯ திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯! நின௠செங௠கமலஇரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அடியால௠மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ இரà¯à®³à¯ தீர நடநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡;

நடநà¯à®¤ அடி பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூத௠ஆக நடநà¯à®¤ அடி; மடஙà¯à®•à®²à®¾à®¯à¯! மாற௠அடà¯à®Ÿà®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 3

மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ ஈர௠அடியான௠மà¯à®±à¯ˆ நிரமà¯à®ªà®¾à®µà®•à¯ˆ à®®à¯à®Ÿà®¿à®¯à®¤à¯Â à®¤à®¾à®µà®¿à®¯ சேவடி சேபà¯à®ª, தமà¯à®ªà®¿à®¯à¯Šà®Ÿà¯à®®à¯ கான௠போநà¯à®¤à¯, சேர அரணà¯à®®à¯ போர௠மடிய, தொல௠இலஙà¯à®•à¯ˆ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯ அழிதà¯à®¤Â à®šà¯‡à®µà®•à®©à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? 1

பெரியவனை; மாயவனை; பேர௠உலகம௠எலà¯à®²à®¾à®®à¯Â à®µà®¿à®°à®¿ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿ உடை விணà¯à®£à®µà®©à¯ˆ; கணà¯à®£à¯à®®à¯, திரà¯à®µà®Ÿà®¿à®¯à¯à®®à¯, கையà¯à®®à¯, திர௠வாயà¯à®®à¯, செயà¯à®¯Â à®•à®°à®¿à®¯à®µà®©à¯ˆ; காணாத கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? கண௠இமைதà¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ காணà¯à®ªà®¾à®°à¯-தம௠கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? 2மடம௠தாழà¯à®®à¯ நெஞà¯à®šà®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ கஞà¯à®šà®©à®¾à®°à¯ வஞà¯à®šà®®à¯Â 

கடநà¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; நூறà¯à®±à¯à®µà®°à¯à®ªà®¾à®²à¯ நால௠திசையà¯à®®à¯ போறà¯à®±, படரà¯à®¨à¯à®¤à¯ ஆரணம௠மà¯à®´à®™à¯à®•, பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூதà¯Â à®¨à®Ÿà®¨à¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; à®à®¤à¯à®¤à®¾à®¤ நா எனà¯à®© நாவே? 'நாராயணா!' எனà¯à®©à®¾ நா எனà¯à®© நாவேAdiyen,Dasan,

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2010/3/1 T.Raguveeradayal <rajamragu

Sri Nalini Persad,

  adiyen dasasya vignaapanam. adiyen feel pity for you. In a forum where many great scholars exhibit themselves as knowing nothing and declare quite often that they are continuously learning, you assert that you have read much, while it seems you have not learnt anything.  Literatures, especially Sri vaishnava literatures and in particular the works of Azhwars must not be read they should be enjoyed. Had you ever enjoyed Azhwars, you would not have preferred to make such a comment. It is always wrong to make comments with our memory. You must have referred to the Naalaayiram before writing this reply. True Ilango Adikal has praised so beautifully in his Aycchier kuravai in Silappathikaaram. Please go through once again Periazhwar thirumozhi and Silappathikaaram to realise your fault. Atleast in future try to avoid such half-baked comments. Do not allow yourselves to be ridiculed. Adiyen is extremely sorry to be harsh in my reply.

Adiyen,Dasan,Thiruppathi RaguveeradayalC/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,THIRUPPULLANI 62353204567-254242//919443301091http://thiruppul.blogspot.com

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2010/2/28 Nalini Persad <nalini.persad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal.  I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil  Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

[http://groups.google.commintamil/msg/d4cac5981e9eb09a?] ஆயரà¯à®•à®³à¯ à®à®±à¯à®±à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! அயோதà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®°à¯ வேநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®ªà¯ பாடிப௠பற! -

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Millions of books! so great! so it is again a blessing in disguise! Thank you. adiyen will contact you if there is aneed for any reference

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2010/3/2 Nalini Persad <nalini.persad

 

 

 

 

 

dear sir

 

it is very kind of you to send me the verses which I have memorised since age 19. this is the cause which made me mix up the pasurams of the alvar with that of Aycciyar kuravai of the Cilappatikaram. I do have the fortune of million of books at my disposals, without having matching memory! please do forgive this oversight.

 

i am grateful to you for jogging my memory.

 

with humble namaskarams

 

mrs nalini persad

 

 

 

2010/3/1 T.Raguveeradayal <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

Sri nalini Persad,

  Here is what Ilango Adikal sings on Thirumal. You need not be in search of a hard book.

 

 

வடவரையை மதà¯à®¤à¯ ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, வாசà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à¯ˆ நாண௠ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, கடல௠வணà¯à®£à®©à¯! பணà¯à®Ÿà¯ ஒர௠நாள௠கடல௠வயிற௠கலகà¯à®•à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®•à®²à®•à¯à®•à®¿à®¯ கை அசோதையார௠கடை கயிறà¯à®±à®¾à®²à¯ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯à®£à¯ கை மலரà¯à®•à¯ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 1'அற௠பொரà¯à®³à¯ இவனà¯' எனà¯à®±à¯‡, அமரர௠கணம௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤, 

உற௠பசி ஒனà¯à®±à¯ இனà¯à®±à®¿à®¯à¯‡, உலக௠அடைய உணà¯à®Ÿà®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®‰à®£à¯à®Ÿ வாய௠களவினால௠உறி வெணà¯à®£à¯†à®¯à¯ உணà¯à®Ÿ வாயà¯Â à®µà®£à¯ தà¯à®´à®¾à®¯à¯ மாலையாயà¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 2திரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அமரர௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®®à¯ திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯! நின௠செங௠கமலஇரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அடியால௠மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ இரà¯à®³à¯ தீர நடநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡;

நடநà¯à®¤ அடி பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூத௠ஆக நடநà¯à®¤ அடி; மடஙà¯à®•à®²à®¾à®¯à¯! மாற௠அடà¯à®Ÿà®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 3

மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ ஈர௠அடியான௠மà¯à®±à¯ˆ நிரமà¯à®ªà®¾à®µà®•à¯ˆ à®®à¯à®Ÿà®¿à®¯à®¤à¯Â à®¤à®¾à®µà®¿à®¯ சேவடி சேபà¯à®ª, தமà¯à®ªà®¿à®¯à¯Šà®Ÿà¯à®®à¯ கான௠போநà¯à®¤à¯, சேர அரணà¯à®®à¯ போர௠மடிய, தொல௠இலஙà¯à®•à¯ˆ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯ அழிதà¯à®¤Â à®šà¯‡à®µà®•à®©à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? 1

பெரியவனை; மாயவனை; பேர௠உலகம௠எலà¯à®²à®¾à®®à¯Â à®µà®¿à®°à®¿ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿ உடை விணà¯à®£à®µà®©à¯ˆ; கணà¯à®£à¯à®®à¯, திரà¯à®µà®Ÿà®¿à®¯à¯à®®à¯, கையà¯à®®à¯, திர௠வாயà¯à®®à¯, செயà¯à®¯Â à®•à®°à®¿à®¯à®µà®©à¯ˆ; காணாத கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? கண௠இமைதà¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ காணà¯à®ªà®¾à®°à¯-தம௠கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? 2மடம௠தாழà¯à®®à¯ நெஞà¯à®šà®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ கஞà¯à®šà®©à®¾à®°à¯ வஞà¯à®šà®®à¯Â 

கடநà¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; நூறà¯à®±à¯à®µà®°à¯à®ªà®¾à®²à¯ நால௠திசையà¯à®®à¯ போறà¯à®±, படரà¯à®¨à¯à®¤à¯ ஆரணம௠மà¯à®´à®™à¯à®•, பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூதà¯Â à®¨à®Ÿà®¨à¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; à®à®¤à¯à®¤à®¾à®¤ நா எனà¯à®© நாவே? 'நாராயணா!' எனà¯à®©à®¾ நா எனà¯à®© நாவேAdiyen,Dasan,

 

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Sri Nalini Persad,

  adiyen dasasya vignaapanam. adiyen feel pity for you. In a forum where many great scholars exhibit themselves as knowing nothing and declare quite often that they are continuously learning, you assert that you have read much, while it seems you have not learnt anything.  Literatures, especially Sri vaishnava literatures and in particular the works of Azhwars must not be read they should be enjoyed. Had you ever enjoyed Azhwars, you would not have preferred to make such a comment. It is always wrong to make comments with our memory. You must have referred to the Naalaayiram before writing this reply. True Ilango Adikal has praised so beautifully in his Aycchier kuravai in Silappathikaaram. Please go through once again Periazhwar thirumozhi and Silappathikaaram to realise your fault. Atleast in future try to avoid such half-baked comments. Do not allow yourselves to be ridiculed. Adiyen is extremely sorry to be harsh in my reply.

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Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal.  I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil  Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

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Namaskaram.

 

I am to correct my previous to say, I have access to more than a million works, by the supreme grace of Sriman Narayana. I wished to pass the below catalogue record I have created for the work:  Śatadūṣaṇī.  It is going to be amended further when I have seen some more parts of the same work in our Sanskrit collection. This particular volume is from our Tamil collections in the British Library where I work. I have noticed that in the west there are a number of copies of this work published from 1901, but none give details of the contents of the work. I am not certain that Setlur Narasimhacharya swami translated all the sixty parts at the moment, I do hope that he did. This record will go up on our catalogue system as it is later today, but will be amended when more details become available.

This is for information only, please do let me know if it is unecessary. Please see below:

 

 

Veá¹…kaá¹­anÄtha,1268-1369.

 

ÅšatadÅ«á¹£aṇī : ÅšrÄ«mannikamÄnta MahÄ TÄ“cikaṉ aruḷicceyta Å›rÄ« CatatÅ«á¹£aṇī =ÅšrÄ«mannigamÄnta MahÄdÄ“Å›ikairanugrahÄ«tÄ ÅšrÄ« ÅšatadÅ«á¹£aṇī /TiruvahÄ«ntirapuram CÄ“á¹­lÅ«r ... NarasimmÄcÄryar SvÄmiyiṉ Tamiḻ moḻi peyarrppu.

 

Ceṉṉai : Nikama Parimaḷam Āpīs,1923-1925.

 

956 p. ;22 cm.

 

Summary notes : This vol. contains 33 vÄdÄ or arguments in favour of ViÅ›iṣṭÄdvaita vedÄnta, namely: 1. BrahmaÅ›abdavrÌ¥tyanuppatti vÄdaṃ, 2. JijñÄsÄnupapatti vÄdam, 3. AikaÅ›Ästrya samarttana vÄdaṃ, 4. Avideya jñÄnavÄdabhaá¹…ga vÄdaṃ, 5. BÄdhitÄnuvrÌ¥tti bhaá¹…ga vÄdaṃ, 6. Vividiá¹£Ä sÄdhanabhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 7. Åšabdajanya pratyaká¹£abhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 8. SÄdanacatuṣṭaya pÅ«rvavrÌ¥ttatva bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 9. KadhÄnadhikÄra vÄdam, 10. NirviÅ›eá¹£avsvaprÄkaÅ›a bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 11. NirviÅ›eá¹£a viá¹£aya, nirvikalpaka bhaá¹…gavÄdam, 12. SanmÄtragrÄhi pratyaká¹£a bhaá¹…gavÄdam, 13. BhedadÅ«á¹£aṇa nistÄra vÄdam, 14. Veda pramÄṇya parigrahÄnupapatti vÄdam, 15. TrayutvÄnumÄna nirÄsavÄdam, 16. VyÄvarttamÄnatvÄnumÄna bhangam, 17. DrÌ¥kddr̥ṣya sambandhÄnupapatti parihÄra vÄdam, [numbers 18 & 19 are missing], 20. Avedyatva bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 21. Samvidanutpatti dÅ«á¹£aṇa vÄdam, 22. SaṃvinnirvikÄratvvanumÄna bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, [numbers 23 & 28 are missing], 29. Pratyaká¹£a Å›Ästravirodha parihÄra vÄdam, 30. AsatyÄt satyasiddhi bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 31. JÄ«vanmukti bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 32. BadhÄrtha sÄmÄnÄdhikaraṇya bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 33. Samvidadvaita bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 34. UpadeÅ›Änupatti vÄdam, 35. TirodhÄnupapatti vÄdam, 36. Ä€tmmÄdvaita bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 37. JÄ«veÅ›varaikya bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 38. Akhaṇá¸avÄkyÄrttha bhaá¹…ga vÄdam, 39. BhÄvarÅ«pajñÄna bhaá¹…ga vÄdam.

 

Notes: A dialectical work on Advaita Vedanta, according to ViÅ›iṣṭÄdvaita philosophy.In Sanskrit in Grantha script with Tamil translation in prose.

 

Advaita.ViÅ›iṣṭÄdvaita.

Translator: Narasimmācāriyār, Cēṭlūr.

 

நமஸà¯à®•à®¾à®°à®®à¯,

இபà¯à®ªà®Ÿà®¿à®•à¯à®•à¯ ,

 

Nalini Persad

2010/3/3 T.Raguveeradayal <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

Millions of books! so great! so it is again a blessing in disguise! Thank you. adiyen will contact you if there is aneed for any reference

 

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2010/3/2 Nalini Persad <nalini.persad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sir

 

it is very kind of you to send me the verses which I have memorised since age 19. this is the cause which made me mix up the pasurams of the alvar with that of Aycciyar kuravai of the Cilappatikaram. I do have the fortune of million of books at my disposals, without having matching memory! please do forgive this oversight.

 

i am grateful to you for jogging my memory.

 

with humble namaskarams

 

mrs nalini persad

 

 

 

2010/3/1 T.Raguveeradayal <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

Sri nalini Persad,

  Here is what Ilango Adikal sings on Thirumal. You need not be in search of a hard book.

 

 

வடவரையை மதà¯à®¤à¯ ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, வாசà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à¯ˆ நாண௠ஆகà¯à®•à®¿, கடல௠வணà¯à®£à®©à¯! பணà¯à®Ÿà¯ ஒர௠நாள௠கடல௠வயிற௠கலகà¯à®•à®¿à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®•à®²à®•à¯à®•à®¿à®¯ கை அசோதையார௠கடை கயிறà¯à®±à®¾à®²à¯ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯à®£à¯ கை மலரà¯à®•à¯ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿à®¯à®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 1'அற௠பொரà¯à®³à¯ இவனà¯' எனà¯à®±à¯‡, அமரர௠கணம௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤, 

உற௠பசி ஒனà¯à®±à¯ இனà¯à®±à®¿à®¯à¯‡, உலக௠அடைய உணà¯à®Ÿà®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡Â à®‰à®£à¯à®Ÿ வாய௠களவினால௠உறி வெணà¯à®£à¯†à®¯à¯ உணà¯à®Ÿ வாயà¯Â à®µà®£à¯ தà¯à®´à®¾à®¯à¯ மாலையாயà¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 2திரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அமரர௠தொழà¯à®¤à¯ à®à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®®à¯ திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯! நின௠செங௠கமலஇரணà¯à®Ÿà¯ அடியால௠மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ இரà¯à®³à¯ தீர நடநà¯à®¤à®©à¯ˆà®¯à¯‡;

நடநà¯à®¤ அடி பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூத௠ஆக நடநà¯à®¤ அடி; மடஙà¯à®•à®²à®¾à®¯à¯! மாற௠அடà¯à®Ÿà®¾à®¯à¯! மாயமோ? மரà¯à®Ÿà¯à®•à¯ˆà®¤à¯à®¤à¯‡! 3

மூ-உலகà¯à®®à¯ ஈர௠அடியான௠மà¯à®±à¯ˆ நிரமà¯à®ªà®¾à®µà®•à¯ˆ à®®à¯à®Ÿà®¿à®¯à®¤à¯Â à®¤à®¾à®µà®¿à®¯ சேவடி சேபà¯à®ª, தமà¯à®ªà®¿à®¯à¯Šà®Ÿà¯à®®à¯ கான௠போநà¯à®¤à¯, சேர அரணà¯à®®à¯ போர௠மடிய, தொல௠இலஙà¯à®•à¯ˆ கடà¯à®Ÿà¯ அழிதà¯à®¤Â à®šà¯‡à®µà®•à®©à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? திரà¯à®®à®¾à®²à¯ சீர௠கேளாத செவி எனà¯à®© செவியே? 1

பெரியவனை; மாயவனை; பேர௠உலகம௠எலà¯à®²à®¾à®®à¯Â à®µà®¿à®°à®¿ கமல உநà¯à®¤à®¿ உடை விணà¯à®£à®µà®©à¯ˆ; கணà¯à®£à¯à®®à¯, திரà¯à®µà®Ÿà®¿à®¯à¯à®®à¯, கையà¯à®®à¯, திர௠வாயà¯à®®à¯, செயà¯à®¯Â à®•à®°à®¿à®¯à®µà®©à¯ˆ; காணாத கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? கண௠இமைதà¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ காணà¯à®ªà®¾à®°à¯-தம௠கண௠எனà¯à®© கணà¯à®£à¯‡? 2மடம௠தாழà¯à®®à¯ நெஞà¯à®šà®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®•à¯ கஞà¯à®šà®©à®¾à®°à¯ வஞà¯à®šà®®à¯Â 

கடநà¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; நூறà¯à®±à¯à®µà®°à¯à®ªà®¾à®²à¯ நால௠திசையà¯à®®à¯ போறà¯à®±, படரà¯à®¨à¯à®¤à¯ ஆரணம௠மà¯à®´à®™à¯à®•, பஞà¯à®šà®µà®°à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®¤à¯ தூதà¯Â à®¨à®Ÿà®¨à¯à®¤à®¾à®©à¯ˆ; à®à®¤à¯à®¤à®¾à®¤ நா எனà¯à®© நாவே? 'நாராயணா!' எனà¯à®©à®¾ நா எனà¯à®© நாவேAdiyen,Dasan,

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Sri Nalini Persad,

  adiyen dasasya vignaapanam. adiyen feel pity for you. In a forum where many great scholars exhibit themselves as knowing nothing and declare quite often that they are continuously learning, you assert that you have read much, while it seems you have not learnt anything.  Literatures, especially Sri vaishnava literatures and in particular the works of Azhwars must not be read they should be enjoyed. Had you ever enjoyed Azhwars, you would not have preferred to make such a comment. It is always wrong to make comments with our memory. You must have referred to the Naalaayiram before writing this reply. True Ilango Adikal has praised so beautifully in his Aycchier kuravai in Silappathikaaram. Please go through once again Periazhwar thirumozhi and Silappathikaaram to realise your fault. Atleast in future try to avoid such half-baked comments. Do not allow yourselves to be ridiculed. Adiyen is extremely sorry to be harsh in my reply.

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2010/2/28 Nalini Persad <nalini.persad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskaram to all.

 

This citation is wrong. These verses occur in the Silappadigaram of Ilangovadigal.  I will cite exact occurence of these verses shortly. Anyone who has learnt the early Tamil  Literature will know that there are many verses in the Silappadigaram that relate to Tirumal.

 

Sincerely

 

Nalini Persad

2010/2/27 thiruthiru <rajamragu

 

 

 

 

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