Divine Incarnations just don't transfer their Divine Wills to human beings...

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

If the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit on Earth, has truly given WCASY Her Will,

then there would have to be a consequential `flow-on-effect' to all the other

spiritual/religious traditions. I say this because `not only' is Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti for Sahaja Yogis and Hindus; She

is also the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit/Comforter for Christians, the

Incarnation of the Ruh of Allah for Muslims, the Incarnation of the Maitreya for

Buddhists, the Incarnation of the Shekinah/Ruach for Jews, the Incarnation of

the Eykaa Mayee for Sikhs and the Incarnation of the Great Mother for Taoists.

 

The transfer of a Divine Incarnation's Will to a World Council is a momentous

occasion in Religious World History indeed! It is so unprecedented, in fact,

that if the claim were accepted as true by the world's spiritual/religious

traditions, then it would require a most extensive re-editing of all the World's

Scriptures in order to reflect this new religious reality.

 

This would be required because the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit does not

belong exclusively to Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Herself has said

that Sahaja Yoga is just ONE of Her forms and that Sahaja Yogis should attach

themselves to Her and not to Sahaja Yoga. The same would go for those of other

spiritual/religious traditions. Instead of attaching themselves to their

particular religion, they should attach themselves to the Holy Spirit within,

the Ruh of Allah within, etc. That is how World Spiritual/Religious Unity will

evolve in the Golden Age of the Satya Yuga. That is how people will have their

Last Judgment and Resurrection. The fact is, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi does not

belong any more to WCASY and SY's than do Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Shri Krishna

or other Incarnations. No one can claim to have exclusive ownership of an

Incarnation, let alone to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation's Will.

 

When I refer to extensive editing, here is just one example of editing that

would be required to the Christian Bible, if Christians accepted WCASY's claims

that the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit has given Her Will to WCASY: -

 

Existing Scripture: -

 

" Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever

blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has

forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " . (Mark 3:28-29)

 

Edited Version of Scripture would read: -

 

" Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men and whatever

blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against (WCASY) never has

forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " .

 

That said, I know for a fact, that no Incarnation, let alone the Incarnation of

the Holy Spirit, would ever willingly and knowingly, submit their Will to any

human being. Rather, it is human beings who are requested to submit their will

to the Loving and Gracious Will of the Holy Spirit/Comforter, the Will of Allah,

the Will of the Shekinah, the Will of the Maitreya, the Will of the Eykaa Mayee,

and the Will of the Great Mother, in order to obtain their salvation, moksha, or

spiritual liberation.

 

To even suggest that an Incarnation, or a Prophet would submit or surrender

their Will to a mere human being, goes against all the Teachings of Truth of the

Incarnations and Prophets themselves!

 

Violet

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet and All,

 

The present attempt by the World Council to garner support among SYs

that they are re/presenters of the Adi Shakti Will is fraught with

satanic negativity and blasphemy. It is unprecedented in the Kingdom

of God that a group of utterly ignorant humans on Earth can now

claim they are re/presenters of God Almighty's Will. Even to discuss

and educate foolish SYs against such a belief is a sign that the

greatest danger to Her Divine Message is within the organization.

Let the Adi Shakti destroy all who empower those who claim to be the

human re/presenters of Her Will. Shri Mahamaya gave them a golden

chance to pounce on Her Will, a poisoned pawn that sets in motion

their ultimate defeat. Just bear witness to the end-game. As Shri

Mataji said years ago:

 

" You cannot force on the organization of God anything. He is on His

own, His organization is on His own. Only thing you can do is to

enter into His Kingdom and become a part and parcel of that blissful

domain.

 

You would never like to change it either. It is so wonderful. It is

so protective, it's so loving, is so gentle, so kind, so

compassionate, that you would hate to change that organization, but

we do! We try to organize God.

 

For people who think that is the ultimate you have to seek, it's all

arranged to enter into the Kingdom of God. The time has come. This

is the Day of Resurrection. These are the days of Resurrection. "

 

Shri Pasahantri Devi

Hampstead, UK - July 22, 1982

 

Pasahantri [811th]: One who destroys Pasas or bonds and gives

liberation or Moksa. "

 

 

" Truth cannot be sold. It cannot be manufactured. It cannot be

organized. And it cannot be mentally or emotionally understood.

Whatever is the Truth we have felt in our evolutionary process has

always been felt on our central nervous system . . . It cannot be

just a mental idea: " This is Truth, that is Truth. " Everybody must

feel that Truth because it is an Absolute thing.

 

Whatever is Absolute cannot be argued, cannot be differently

decoded. If we understand this prima-facie then we will understand

that we have to go beyond this human awareness to feel the

Truth. ... human awareness is not sufficient. If it was, then there

would not have been any difference of opinions. Everybody thinks

that they are correct. That's not the way to self-certify

oneself . . .

 

At the very outset I told you that Truth cannot be sold. There are

many people in the market selling the Truth, selling God, selling

all kinds of things. "

 

Shri Sudha-srutih Devi

Madras, India - Feb 11, 1990

 

Sudha-srutih (879th): Ambrosial stream or flow of bliss resulting

from meditation on Sri Lalita in Sahasrara or the continuous flow of

the experience of Divine Bliss in devoted practice. "

 

 

So how can anyone protect themselves from WCASY? Just renounce

yourself to be a SY paying homage to, and having allegiance with,

WCASY. All you need to do is to become a believer of Her Divine

Message and meditate on the Adi Shakti within:

 

" You know that I reside in the Sahasrara. I incarnated on the Lotus

of 1000 Petals; that is why I could break it open also. "

 

Shri Sahasra-dala-padmastha Devi

Sahasrara Puja, Italy - May 6, 1989

 

Sahasra-dala-padmastha (528th): Residing in the Thousand-Petaled

Lotus.

 

 

It is clear that SYs are those who believe that:

 

1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

beings;

2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga) now

officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last Judgment

and Resurrection has begun;

5. there is no need to annouce that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti or

Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri Mataji

as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

(Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

 

The beleivers of Her Divine Message have to do the exact opposite

and that defines the outsiders who Shri Mataji foretold in 1993 will

be summoned to spread Her message if SYs do not. Today these

outsiders are rising to Her Call and discharging their sacred duties

so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

meaning, their absolute, their spirit. One day outsiders like us

will surely outnumber SYs who never had the faith, conviction, sense

of duty and desire to obey Her:

 

" These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last

Judgment and in the Koran as Qiyamah, the Resurrection time.

Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of

rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. "

 

" Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-

masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga Dharma.

It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all

the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning,

their absolute, their spirit. "

 

" Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great

Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now! At this Time! —

And that you are capable of doing it. "

 

 

so let the Adi Shakti destroy all ignorance and untruth,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

 

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and All,

>

> If the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit on Earth, has truly given

WCASY Her Will, then there would have to be a consequential `flow-on-

effect' to all the other spiritual/religious traditions. I say this

because `not only' is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi the Incarnation of

the Adi Shakti for Sahaja Yogis and Hindus; She is also the

Incarnation of the Holy Spirit/Comforter for Christians, the

Incarnation of the Ruh of Allah for Muslims, the Incarnation of the

Maitreya for Buddhists, the Incarnation of the Shekinah/Ruach for

Jews, the Incarnation of the Eykaa Mayee for Sikhs and the

Incarnation of the Great Mother for Taoists.

>

> The transfer of a Divine Incarnation's Will to a World Council is

a momentous occasion in Religious World History indeed! It is so

unprecedented, in fact, that if the claim were accepted as true by

the world's spiritual/religious traditions, then it would require a

most extensive re-editing of all the World's Scriptures in order to

reflect this new religious reality.

>

> This would be required because the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit

does not belong exclusively to Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi, Herself has said that Sahaja Yoga is just ONE of Her forms and

that Sahaja Yogis should attach themselves to Her and not to Sahaja

Yoga. The same would go for those of other spiritual/religious

traditions. Instead of attaching themselves to their particular

religion, they should attach themselves to the Holy Spirit within,

the Ruh of Allah within, etc. That is how World Spiritual/Religious

Unity will evolve in the Golden Age of the Satya Yuga. That is how

people will have their Last Judgment and Resurrection. The fact is,

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi does not belong any more to WCASY and SY's

than do Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Shri Krishna or other Incarnations.

No one can claim to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation, let

alone to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation's Will.

>

> When I refer to extensive editing, here is just one example of

editing that would be required to the Christian Bible, if Christians

accepted WCASY's claims that the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit has

given Her Will to WCASY: -

>

> Existing Scripture: -

>

> " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men,

and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against

the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal

sin " . (Mark 3:28-29)

>

> Edited Version of Scripture would read: -

>

> " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men

and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against

(WCASY) never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " .

>

> That said, I know for a fact, that no Incarnation, let alone the

Incarnation of the Holy Spirit, would ever willingly and knowingly,

submit their Will to any human being. Rather, it is human beings who

are requested to submit their will to the Loving and Gracious Will

of the Holy Spirit/Comforter, the Will of Allah, the Will of the

Shekinah, the Will of the Maitreya, the Will of the Eykaa Mayee, and

the Will of the Great Mother, in order to obtain their salvation,

moksha, or spiritual liberation.

>

> To even suggest that an Incarnation, or a Prophet would submit or

surrender their Will to a mere human being, goes against all the

Teachings of Truth of the Incarnations and Prophets themselves!

>

> Violet

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir (and All),

 

Firstly, based on all that you have said, I believe that there is a real need to

outline what are the basic tenets of the spiritual teachings of Shri Mataji

along with those of all the other Incarnations and Prophets as well...somewhere

on this forum, so that they can be easily accessed, seen and read.

 

For instance, an example of such basic tenets, could read something like this:-

 

1. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught about the

Last Judgment and Resurrection.

 

2. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught about the

need to go within one's own inner spiritual temple.

 

i thought that perhaps... since you already have so much inter-religious

information at your fingertips... that you might most easily be able to do this

for the spiritual benefit of all of us. What do you say to this request?

 

 

Secondly, since there is religio-political struggle for the Adi Shakti's Will, I

believe there is also a real need to file all Her warnings and advice about not

making or organizing Her spiritual teachings into a religio-political machinery

into one place, that will also be easily accessible. That way the Truth of the

teachings of Shri Mataji can be clearly shown and known by all future seekers of

Truth. i don't mind helping with what i have available, also. It would be very

helpful if these could be 'parked' in something like the Files Section, or some

other 'reserved' spot that you deemed as suitable, where these could be easily

accessed, read, and copy/pasted for further dissemination, if necessary.

 

This way, not only will everyone become aware of the universality of Shri

Mataji's teachings, but it will also help everyone to steer clear of the

confusing teachings as revealed and outlined in your (7) points, which i also

know, accurately reflects the flawed thinking of WCASY and their SYSSR.

 

I call it " flawed thinking " because these (7) points have been formulated, based

upon the faulty practice of selectively 'picking and choosing' particular words

of Shri Mataji only, and NOT also taking into account the entirety of all of Her

other teachings as well.

 

In the end, such a faulty practice can only result in a misrepresentation of

what Shri Mataji has taught and this has already happened to all of the other

Incarnations in the past. We don't want this to happen to Shri Mataji's

teachings, as well.

 

Here then are the (7) points, which are actually a misrepresentation of Shri

Mataji's teachings in their entirety. While reading, please also keep in mind

what all the Incarnations and Prophets have taught:-

 

1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human beings;

 

2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga) now officially

represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

 

3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) of

WCASY and give self-realization;

 

4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last Judgment and

Resurrection has begun;

 

5. there is no need to announce that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti or Comforter

or Imam Mahdi;

 

6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the subtle system as

their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

 

7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri Mataji as they do

not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti (Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

 

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Dear Violet and All,

>

> The present attempt by the World Council to garner support among SYs

> that they are re/presenters of the Adi Shakti Will is fraught with

> satanic negativity and blasphemy. It is unprecedented in the Kingdom

> of God that a group of utterly ignorant humans on Earth can now

> claim they are re/presenters of God Almighty's Will. Even to discuss

> and educate foolish SYs against such a belief is a sign that the

> greatest danger to Her Divine Message is within the organization.

> Let the Adi Shakti destroy all who empower those who claim to be the

> human re/presenters of Her Will. Shri Mahamaya gave them a golden

> chance to pounce on Her Will, a poisoned pawn that sets in motion

> their ultimate defeat. Just bear witness to the end-game. As Shri

> Mataji said years ago:

>

> " You cannot force on the organization of God anything. He is on His

> own, His organization is on His own. Only thing you can do is to

> enter into His Kingdom and become a part and parcel of that blissful

> domain.

>

> You would never like to change it either. It is so wonderful. It is

> so protective, it's so loving, is so gentle, so kind, so

> compassionate, that you would hate to change that organization, but

> we do! We try to organize God.

>

> For people who think that is the ultimate you have to seek, it's all

> arranged to enter into the Kingdom of God. The time has come. This

> is the Day of Resurrection. These are the days of Resurrection. "

>

> Shri Pasahantri Devi

> Hampstead, UK - July 22, 1982

>

> Pasahantri [811th]: One who destroys Pasas or bonds and gives

> liberation or Moksa. "

>

>

> " Truth cannot be sold. It cannot be manufactured. It cannot be

> organized. And it cannot be mentally or emotionally understood.

> Whatever is the Truth we have felt in our evolutionary process has

> always been felt on our central nervous system . . . It cannot be

> just a mental idea: " This is Truth, that is Truth. " Everybody must

> feel that Truth because it is an Absolute thing.

>

> Whatever is Absolute cannot be argued, cannot be differently

> decoded. If we understand this prima-facie then we will understand

> that we have to go beyond this human awareness to feel the

> Truth. ... human awareness is not sufficient. If it was, then there

> would not have been any difference of opinions. Everybody thinks

> that they are correct. That's not the way to self-certify

> oneself . . .

>

> At the very outset I told you that Truth cannot be sold. There are

> many people in the market selling the Truth, selling God, selling

> all kinds of things. "

>

> Shri Sudha-srutih Devi

> Madras, India - Feb 11, 1990

>

> Sudha-srutih (879th): Ambrosial stream or flow of bliss resulting

> from meditation on Sri Lalita in Sahasrara or the continuous flow of

> the experience of Divine Bliss in devoted practice. "

>

>

> So how can anyone protect themselves from WCASY? Just renounce

> yourself to be a SY paying homage to, and having allegiance with,

> WCASY. All you need to do is to become a believer of Her Divine

> Message and meditate on the Adi Shakti within:

>

> " You know that I reside in the Sahasrara. I incarnated on the Lotus

> of 1000 Petals; that is why I could break it open also. "

>

> Shri Sahasra-dala-padmastha Devi

> Sahasrara Puja, Italy - May 6, 1989

>

> Sahasra-dala-padmastha (528th): Residing in the Thousand-Petaled

> Lotus.

>

>

> It is clear that SYs are those who believe that:

>

> 1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

> beings;

> 2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga) now

> officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

> 3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

> 4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last Judgment

> and Resurrection has begun;

> 5. there is no need to annouce that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti or

> Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

> 6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

> subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

> 7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri Mataji

> as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

> (Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

>

> The beleivers of Her Divine Message have to do the exact opposite

> and that defines the outsiders who Shri Mataji foretold in 1993 will

> be summoned to spread Her message if SYs do not. Today these

> outsiders are rising to Her Call and discharging their sacred duties

> so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

> meaning, their absolute, their spirit. One day outsiders like us

> will surely outnumber SYs who never had the faith, conviction, sense

> of duty and desire to obey Her:

>

> " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last

> Judgment and in the Koran as Qiyamah, the Resurrection time.

> Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of

> rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. "

>

> " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-

> masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga Dharma.

> It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all

> the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

> nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning,

> their absolute, their spirit. "

>

> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great

> Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now! At this Time! —

> And that you are capable of doing it. "

>

>

> so let the Adi Shakti destroy all ignorance and untruth,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and All,

> >

> > If the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit on Earth, has truly given

> WCASY Her Will, then there would have to be a consequential `flow-

on-

> effect' to all the other spiritual/religious traditions. I say this

> because `not only' is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi the Incarnation of

> the Adi Shakti for Sahaja Yogis and Hindus; She is also the

> Incarnation of the Holy Spirit/Comforter for Christians, the

> Incarnation of the Ruh of Allah for Muslims, the Incarnation of the

> Maitreya for Buddhists, the Incarnation of the Shekinah/Ruach for

> Jews, the Incarnation of the Eykaa Mayee for Sikhs and the

> Incarnation of the Great Mother for Taoists.

> >

> > The transfer of a Divine Incarnation's Will to a World Council is

> a momentous occasion in Religious World History indeed! It is so

> unprecedented, in fact, that if the claim were accepted as true by

> the world's spiritual/religious traditions, then it would require a

> most extensive re-editing of all the World's Scriptures in order to

> reflect this new religious reality.

> >

> > This would be required because the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit

> does not belong exclusively to Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji Nirmala

> Devi, Herself has said that Sahaja Yoga is just ONE of Her forms and

> that Sahaja Yogis should attach themselves to Her and not to Sahaja

> Yoga. The same would go for those of other spiritual/religious

> traditions. Instead of attaching themselves to their particular

> religion, they should attach themselves to the Holy Spirit within,

> the Ruh of Allah within, etc. That is how World Spiritual/Religious

> Unity will evolve in the Golden Age of the Satya Yuga. That is how

> people will have their Last Judgment and Resurrection. The fact is,

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi does not belong any more to WCASY and SY's

> than do Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Shri Krishna or other Incarnations.

> No one can claim to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation, let

> alone to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation's Will.

> >

> > When I refer to extensive editing, here is just one example of

> editing that would be required to the Christian Bible, if Christians

> accepted WCASY's claims that the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit has

> given Her Will to WCASY: -

> >

> > Existing Scripture: -

> >

> > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men,

> and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against

> the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal

> sin " . (Mark 3:28-29)

> >

> > Edited Version of Scripture would read: -

> >

> > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men

> and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against

> (WCASY) never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " .

> >

> > That said, I know for a fact, that no Incarnation, let alone the

> Incarnation of the Holy Spirit, would ever willingly and knowingly,

> submit their Will to any human being. Rather, it is human beings who

> are requested to submit their will to the Loving and Gracious Will

> of the Holy Spirit/Comforter, the Will of Allah, the Will of the

> Shekinah, the Will of the Maitreya, the Will of the Eykaa Mayee, and

> the Will of the Great Mother, in order to obtain their salvation,

> moksha, or spiritual liberation.

> >

> > To even suggest that an Incarnation, or a Prophet would submit or

> surrender their Will to a mere human being, goes against all the

> Teachings of Truth of the Incarnations and Prophets themselves!

> >

> > Violet

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet,

 

i am agreeable since i do not want to be associated with the Will

hijackers or their organization in any way. Just prepare them and i

will put them up.

 

warmest regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir (and All),

>

> Firstly, based on all that you have said, I believe that there is

a real need to outline what are the basic tenets of the spiritual

teachings of Shri Mataji along with those of all the other

Incarnations and Prophets as well...somewhere on this forum, so that

they can be easily accessed, seen and read.

>

> For instance, an example of such basic tenets, could read

something like this:-

>

> 1. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught

about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

>

> 2. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught

about the need to go within one's own inner spiritual temple.

>

> i thought that perhaps... since you already have so much inter-

religious information at your fingertips... that you might most

easily be able to do this for the spiritual benefit of all of us.

What do you say to this request?

>

>

> Secondly, since there is religio-political struggle for the Adi

Shakti's Will, I believe there is also a real need to file all Her

warnings and advice about not making or organizing Her spiritual

teachings into a religio-political machinery into one place, that

will also be easily accessible. That way the Truth of the teachings

of Shri Mataji can be clearly shown and known by all future seekers

of Truth. i don't mind helping with what i have available, also. It

would be very helpful if these could be 'parked' in something like

the Files Section, or some other 'reserved' spot that you deemed as

suitable, where these could be easily accessed, read, and

copy/pasted for further dissemination, if necessary.

>

> This way, not only will everyone become aware of the universality

of Shri Mataji's teachings, but it will also help everyone to steer

clear of the confusing teachings as revealed and outlined in your

(7) points, which i also know, accurately reflects the flawed

thinking of WCASY and their SYSSR.

>

> I call it " flawed thinking " because these (7) points have been

formulated, based upon the faulty practice of selectively 'picking

and choosing' particular words of Shri Mataji only, and NOT also

taking into account the entirety of all of Her other teachings as

well.

>

> In the end, such a faulty practice can only result in a

misrepresentation of what Shri Mataji has taught and this has

already happened to all of the other Incarnations in the past. We

don't want this to happen to Shri Mataji's teachings, as well.

>

> Here then are the (7) points, which are actually a

misrepresentation of Shri Mataji's teachings in their entirety.

While reading, please also keep in mind what all the Incarnations

and Prophets have taught:-

>

> 1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

beings;

>

> 2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga)

now officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

>

> 3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

>

> 4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last Judgment

and Resurrection has begun;

>

> 5. there is no need to announce that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti

or Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

>

> 6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

>

> 7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri

Mataji as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

(Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

>

>

> violet

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Violet and All,

> >

> > The present attempt by the World Council to garner support among

SYs

> > that they are re/presenters of the Adi Shakti Will is fraught

with

> > satanic negativity and blasphemy. It is unprecedented in the

Kingdom

> > of God that a group of utterly ignorant humans on Earth can now

> > claim they are re/presenters of God Almighty's Will. Even to

discuss

> > and educate foolish SYs against such a belief is a sign that the

> > greatest danger to Her Divine Message is within the organization.

> > Let the Adi Shakti destroy all who empower those who claim to be

the

> > human re/presenters of Her Will. Shri Mahamaya gave them a golden

> > chance to pounce on Her Will, a poisoned pawn that sets in motion

> > their ultimate defeat. Just bear witness to the end-game. As Shri

> > Mataji said years ago:

> >

> > " You cannot force on the organization of God anything. He is on

His

> > own, His organization is on His own. Only thing you can do is to

> > enter into His Kingdom and become a part and parcel of that

blissful

> > domain.

> >

> > You would never like to change it either. It is so wonderful. It

is

> > so protective, it's so loving, is so gentle, so kind, so

> > compassionate, that you would hate to change that organization,

but

> > we do! We try to organize God.

> >

> > For people who think that is the ultimate you have to seek, it's

all

> > arranged to enter into the Kingdom of God. The time has come.

This

> > is the Day of Resurrection. These are the days of Resurrection. "

> >

> > Shri Pasahantri Devi

> > Hampstead, UK - July 22, 1982

> >

> > Pasahantri [811th]: One who destroys Pasas or bonds and gives

> > liberation or Moksa. "

> >

> >

> > " Truth cannot be sold. It cannot be manufactured. It cannot be

> > organized. And it cannot be mentally or emotionally understood.

> > Whatever is the Truth we have felt in our evolutionary process

has

> > always been felt on our central nervous system . . . It cannot be

> > just a mental idea: " This is Truth, that is Truth. " Everybody

must

> > feel that Truth because it is an Absolute thing.

> >

> > Whatever is Absolute cannot be argued, cannot be differently

> > decoded. If we understand this prima-facie then we will

understand

> > that we have to go beyond this human awareness to feel the

> > Truth. ... human awareness is not sufficient. If it was, then

there

> > would not have been any difference of opinions. Everybody thinks

> > that they are correct. That's not the way to self-certify

> > oneself . . .

> >

> > At the very outset I told you that Truth cannot be sold. There

are

> > many people in the market selling the Truth, selling God, selling

> > all kinds of things. "

> >

> > Shri Sudha-srutih Devi

> > Madras, India - Feb 11, 1990

> >

> > Sudha-srutih (879th): Ambrosial stream or flow of bliss resulting

> > from meditation on Sri Lalita in Sahasrara or the continuous

flow of

> > the experience of Divine Bliss in devoted practice. "

> >

> >

> > So how can anyone protect themselves from WCASY? Just renounce

> > yourself to be a SY paying homage to, and having allegiance with,

> > WCASY. All you need to do is to become a believer of Her Divine

> > Message and meditate on the Adi Shakti within:

> >

> > " You know that I reside in the Sahasrara. I incarnated on the

Lotus

> > of 1000 Petals; that is why I could break it open also. "

> >

> > Shri Sahasra-dala-padmastha Devi

> > Sahasrara Puja, Italy - May 6, 1989

> >

> > Sahasra-dala-padmastha (528th): Residing in the Thousand-Petaled

> > Lotus.

> >

> >

> > It is clear that SYs are those who believe that:

> >

> > 1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

> > beings;

> > 2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga)

now

> > officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

> > 3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> > Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

> > 4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last

Judgment

> > and Resurrection has begun;

> > 5. there is no need to annouce that Shri Mataji is the Adi

Shakti or

> > Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

> > 6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

> > subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

> > 7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri

Mataji

> > as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

> > (Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

> >

> > The beleivers of Her Divine Message have to do the exact opposite

> > and that defines the outsiders who Shri Mataji foretold in 1993

will

> > be summoned to spread Her message if SYs do not. Today these

> > outsiders are rising to Her Call and discharging their sacred

duties

> > so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve

their

> > meaning, their absolute, their spirit. One day outsiders like us

> > will surely outnumber SYs who never had the faith, conviction,

sense

> > of duty and desire to obey Her:

> >

> > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last

> > Judgment and in the Koran as Qiyamah, the Resurrection time.

> > Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of

> > rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. "

> >

> > " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is

en-

> > masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga

Dharma.

> > It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to

all

> > the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

> > nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

meaning,

> > their absolute, their spirit. "

> >

> > " Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great

> > Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now! At this

Time! —

> > And that you are capable of doing it. "

> >

> >

> > so let the Adi Shakti destroy all ignorance and untruth,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Violet "

> > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir and All,

> > >

> > > If the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit on Earth, has truly given

> > WCASY Her Will, then there would have to be a consequential

`flow-

> on-

> > effect' to all the other spiritual/religious traditions. I say

this

> > because `not only' is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi the Incarnation of

> > the Adi Shakti for Sahaja Yogis and Hindus; She is also the

> > Incarnation of the Holy Spirit/Comforter for Christians, the

> > Incarnation of the Ruh of Allah for Muslims, the Incarnation of

the

> > Maitreya for Buddhists, the Incarnation of the Shekinah/Ruach for

> > Jews, the Incarnation of the Eykaa Mayee for Sikhs and the

> > Incarnation of the Great Mother for Taoists.

> > >

> > > The transfer of a Divine Incarnation's Will to a World Council

is

> > a momentous occasion in Religious World History indeed! It is so

> > unprecedented, in fact, that if the claim were accepted as true

by

> > the world's spiritual/religious traditions, then it would

require a

> > most extensive re-editing of all the World's Scriptures in order

to

> > reflect this new religious reality.

> > >

> > > This would be required because the Incarnation of the Holy

Spirit

> > does not belong exclusively to Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji Nirmala

> > Devi, Herself has said that Sahaja Yoga is just ONE of Her forms

and

> > that Sahaja Yogis should attach themselves to Her and not to

Sahaja

> > Yoga. The same would go for those of other spiritual/religious

> > traditions. Instead of attaching themselves to their particular

> > religion, they should attach themselves to the Holy Spirit

within,

> > the Ruh of Allah within, etc. That is how World

Spiritual/Religious

> > Unity will evolve in the Golden Age of the Satya Yuga. That is

how

> > people will have their Last Judgment and Resurrection. The fact

is,

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi does not belong any more to WCASY and

SY's

> > than do Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Shri Krishna or other

Incarnations.

> > No one can claim to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation,

let

> > alone to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation's Will.

> > >

> > > When I refer to extensive editing, here is just one example of

> > editing that would be required to the Christian Bible, if

Christians

> > accepted WCASY's claims that the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit

has

> > given Her Will to WCASY: -

> > >

> > > Existing Scripture: -

> > >

> > > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of

men,

> > and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes

against

> > the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an

eternal

> > sin " . (Mark 3:28-29)

> > >

> > > Edited Version of Scripture would read: -

> > >

> > > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men

> > and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes

against

> > (WCASY) never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " .

> > >

> > > That said, I know for a fact, that no Incarnation, let alone

the

> > Incarnation of the Holy Spirit, would ever willingly and

knowingly,

> > submit their Will to any human being. Rather, it is human beings

who

> > are requested to submit their will to the Loving and Gracious

Will

> > of the Holy Spirit/Comforter, the Will of Allah, the Will of the

> > Shekinah, the Will of the Maitreya, the Will of the Eykaa Mayee,

and

> > the Will of the Great Mother, in order to obtain their salvation,

> > moksha, or spiritual liberation.

> > >

> > > To even suggest that an Incarnation, or a Prophet would submit

or

> > surrender their Will to a mere human being, goes against all the

> > Teachings of Truth of the Incarnations and Prophets themselves!

> > >

> > > Violet

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Okay, i will start to collect and research relevant material to do that. If

anyone else also has any such materials at their fingertips, such as traditional

spiritual/religious tenets that the majority of Incarnations and Prophets have

taught, this would be great.

 

Any such ideas would be appreciated. It will probably take some time to gather

these materials together, but i don't mind doing that (with others help too, if

they so wish).

 

Thanks Jagbir for your offer to put it up on the website somewhere.

 

warmest regards,

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

>

> Dear Violet,

>

> i am agreeable since i do not want to be associated with the Will

> hijackers or their organization in any way. Just prepare them and i

> will put them up.

>

> warmest regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir (and All),

> >

> > Firstly, based on all that you have said, I believe that there is

> a real need to outline what are the basic tenets of the spiritual

> teachings of Shri Mataji along with those of all the other

> Incarnations and Prophets as well...somewhere on this forum, so that

> they can be easily accessed, seen and read.

> >

> > For instance, an example of such basic tenets, could read

> something like this:-

> >

> > 1. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught

> about the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

> >

> > 2. Shri Mataji, as well as other Incarnations and Prophets, taught

> about the need to go within one's own inner spiritual temple.

> >

> > i thought that perhaps... since you already have so much inter-

> religious information at your fingertips... that you might most

> easily be able to do this for the spiritual benefit of all of us.

> What do you say to this request?

> >

> >

> > Secondly, since there is religio-political struggle for the Adi

> Shakti's Will, I believe there is also a real need to file all Her

> warnings and advice about not making or organizing Her spiritual

> teachings into a religio-political machinery into one place, that

> will also be easily accessible. That way the Truth of the teachings

> of Shri Mataji can be clearly shown and known by all future seekers

> of Truth. i don't mind helping with what i have available, also. It

> would be very helpful if these could be 'parked' in something like

> the Files Section, or some other 'reserved' spot that you deemed as

> suitable, where these could be easily accessed, read, and

> copy/pasted for further dissemination, if necessary.

> >

> > This way, not only will everyone become aware of the universality

> of Shri Mataji's teachings, but it will also help everyone to steer

> clear of the confusing teachings as revealed and outlined in your

> (7) points, which i also know, accurately reflects the flawed

> thinking of WCASY and their SYSSR.

> >

> > I call it " flawed thinking " because these (7) points have been

> formulated, based upon the faulty practice of selectively 'picking

> and choosing' particular words of Shri Mataji only, and NOT also

> taking into account the entirety of all of Her other teachings as

> well.

> >

> > In the end, such a faulty practice can only result in a

> misrepresentation of what Shri Mataji has taught and this has

> already happened to all of the other Incarnations in the past. We

> don't want this to happen to Shri Mataji's teachings, as well.

> >

> > Here then are the (7) points, which are actually a

> misrepresentation of Shri Mataji's teachings in their entirety.

> While reading, please also keep in mind what all the Incarnations

> and Prophets have taught:-

> >

> > 1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

> beings;

> >

> > 2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga)

> now officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

> >

> > 3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

> >

> > 4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last Judgment

> and Resurrection has begun;

> >

> > 5. there is no need to announce that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti

> or Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

> >

> > 6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

> subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the same;

> >

> > 7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri

> Mataji as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

> (Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

> >

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> > , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Violet and All,

> > >

> > > The present attempt by the World Council to garner support among

> SYs

> > > that they are re/presenters of the Adi Shakti Will is fraught

> with

> > > satanic negativity and blasphemy. It is unprecedented in the

> Kingdom

> > > of God that a group of utterly ignorant humans on Earth can now

> > > claim they are re/presenters of God Almighty's Will. Even to

> discuss

> > > and educate foolish SYs against such a belief is a sign that the

> > > greatest danger to Her Divine Message is within the

organization.

> > > Let the Adi Shakti destroy all who empower those who claim to be

> the

> > > human re/presenters of Her Will. Shri Mahamaya gave them a

golden

> > > chance to pounce on Her Will, a poisoned pawn that sets in

motion

> > > their ultimate defeat. Just bear witness to the end-game. As

Shri

> > > Mataji said years ago:

> > >

> > > " You cannot force on the organization of God anything. He is on

> His

> > > own, His organization is on His own. Only thing you can do is to

> > > enter into His Kingdom and become a part and parcel of that

> blissful

> > > domain.

> > >

> > > You would never like to change it either. It is so wonderful. It

> is

> > > so protective, it's so loving, is so gentle, so kind, so

> > > compassionate, that you would hate to change that organization,

> but

> > > we do! We try to organize God.

> > >

> > > For people who think that is the ultimate you have to seek, it's

> all

> > > arranged to enter into the Kingdom of God. The time has come.

> This

> > > is the Day of Resurrection. These are the days of Resurrection. "

> > >

> > > Shri Pasahantri Devi

> > > Hampstead, UK - July 22, 1982

> > >

> > > Pasahantri [811th]: One who destroys Pasas or bonds and gives

> > > liberation or Moksa. "

> > >

> > >

> > > " Truth cannot be sold. It cannot be manufactured. It cannot be

> > > organized. And it cannot be mentally or emotionally understood.

> > > Whatever is the Truth we have felt in our evolutionary process

> has

> > > always been felt on our central nervous system . . . It cannot

be

> > > just a mental idea: " This is Truth, that is Truth. " Everybody

> must

> > > feel that Truth because it is an Absolute thing.

> > >

> > > Whatever is Absolute cannot be argued, cannot be differently

> > > decoded. If we understand this prima-facie then we will

> understand

> > > that we have to go beyond this human awareness to feel the

> > > Truth. ... human awareness is not sufficient. If it was, then

> there

> > > would not have been any difference of opinions. Everybody thinks

> > > that they are correct. That's not the way to self-certify

> > > oneself . . .

> > >

> > > At the very outset I told you that Truth cannot be sold. There

> are

> > > many people in the market selling the Truth, selling God,

selling

> > > all kinds of things. "

> > >

> > > Shri Sudha-srutih Devi

> > > Madras, India - Feb 11, 1990

> > >

> > > Sudha-srutih (879th): Ambrosial stream or flow of bliss

resulting

> > > from meditation on Sri Lalita in Sahasrara or the continuous

> flow of

> > > the experience of Divine Bliss in devoted practice. "

> > >

> > >

> > > So how can anyone protect themselves from WCASY? Just renounce

> > > yourself to be a SY paying homage to, and having allegiance

with,

> > > WCASY. All you need to do is to become a believer of Her Divine

> > > Message and meditate on the Adi Shakti within:

> > >

> > > " You know that I reside in the Sahasrara. I incarnated on the

> Lotus

> > > of 1000 Petals; that is why I could break it open also. "

> > >

> > > Shri Sahasra-dala-padmastha Devi

> > > Sahasrara Puja, Italy - May 6, 1989

> > >

> > > Sahasra-dala-padmastha (528th): Residing in the Thousand-Petaled

> > > Lotus.

> > >

> > >

> > > It is clear that SYs are those who believe that:

> > >

> > > 1. Divine Incarnations can transfer their Divine Wills to human

> > > beings;

> > > 2. the WCASY (World Council For The Advancement Of Sahaja Yoga)

> now

> > > officially represents the transferred Will of Shri Mataji;

> > > 3. they only have to spread the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> > > Religion) of WCASY and give self-realization;

> > > 4. there is no need to tell all the nations that the Last

> Judgment

> > > and Resurrection has begun;

> > > 5. there is no need to annouce that Shri Mataji is the Adi

> Shakti or

> > > Comforter or Imam Mahdi;

> > > 6. they have to do external rituals and daily cleansing of the

> > > subtle system as their Mother Kundalini is unable to do the

same;

> > > 7. they have to meditate on the external image/photo of Shri

> Mataji

> > > as they do not understand or believe that the Adi Shakti

> > > (Holy/Spirit/Ruh) is within.

> > >

> > > The beleivers of Her Divine Message have to do the exact

opposite

> > > and that defines the outsiders who Shri Mataji foretold in 1993

> will

> > > be summoned to spread Her message if SYs do not. Today these

> > > outsiders are rising to Her Call and discharging their sacred

> duties

> > > so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve

> their

> > > meaning, their absolute, their spirit. One day outsiders like us

> > > will surely outnumber SYs who never had the faith, conviction,

> sense

> > > of duty and desire to obey Her:

> > >

> > > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last

> > > Judgment and in the Koran as Qiyamah, the Resurrection time.

> > > Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time

of

> > > rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. "

> > >

> > > " Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is

> en-

> > > masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga

> Dharma.

> > > It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to

> all

> > > the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that

> > > nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their

> meaning,

> > > their absolute, their spirit. "

> > >

> > > " Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great

> > > Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now! At this

> Time! —

> > > And that you are capable of doing it. "

> > >

> > >

> > > so let the Adi Shakti destroy all ignorance and untruth,

> > >

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Violet "

> > > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jagbir and All,

> > > >

> > > > If the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit on Earth, has truly

given

> > > WCASY Her Will, then there would have to be a consequential

> `flow-

> > on-

> > > effect' to all the other spiritual/religious traditions. I say

> this

> > > because `not only' is Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi the Incarnation

of

> > > the Adi Shakti for Sahaja Yogis and Hindus; She is also the

> > > Incarnation of the Holy Spirit/Comforter for Christians, the

> > > Incarnation of the Ruh of Allah for Muslims, the Incarnation of

> the

> > > Maitreya for Buddhists, the Incarnation of the Shekinah/Ruach

for

> > > Jews, the Incarnation of the Eykaa Mayee for Sikhs and the

> > > Incarnation of the Great Mother for Taoists.

> > > >

> > > > The transfer of a Divine Incarnation's Will to a World Council

> is

> > > a momentous occasion in Religious World History indeed! It is so

> > > unprecedented, in fact, that if the claim were accepted as true

> by

> > > the world's spiritual/religious traditions, then it would

> require a

> > > most extensive re-editing of all the World's Scriptures in order

> to

> > > reflect this new religious reality.

> > > >

> > > > This would be required because the Incarnation of the Holy

> Spirit

> > > does not belong exclusively to Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji Nirmala

> > > Devi, Herself has said that Sahaja Yoga is just ONE of Her forms

> and

> > > that Sahaja Yogis should attach themselves to Her and not to

> Sahaja

> > > Yoga. The same would go for those of other spiritual/religious

> > > traditions. Instead of attaching themselves to their particular

> > > religion, they should attach themselves to the Holy Spirit

> within,

> > > the Ruh of Allah within, etc. That is how World

> Spiritual/Religious

> > > Unity will evolve in the Golden Age of the Satya Yuga. That is

> how

> > > people will have their Last Judgment and Resurrection. The fact

> is,

> > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi does not belong any more to WCASY and

> SY's

> > > than do Shri Jesus, Shri Buddha, Shri Krishna or other

> Incarnations.

> > > No one can claim to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation,

> let

> > > alone to have exclusive ownership of an Incarnation's Will.

> > > >

> > > > When I refer to extensive editing, here is just one example of

> > > editing that would be required to the Christian Bible, if

> Christians

> > > accepted WCASY's claims that the Incarnation of the Holy Spirit

> has

> > > given Her Will to WCASY: -

> > > >

> > > > Existing Scripture: -

> > > >

> > > > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of

> men,

> > > and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes

> against

> > > the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an

> eternal

> > > sin " . (Mark 3:28-29)

> > > >

> > > > Edited Version of Scripture would read: -

> > > >

> > > > " Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of

men

> > > and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes

> against

> > > (WCASY) never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin " .

> > > >

> > > > That said, I know for a fact, that no Incarnation, let alone

> the

> > > Incarnation of the Holy Spirit, would ever willingly and

> knowingly,

> > > submit their Will to any human being. Rather, it is human beings

> who

> > > are requested to submit their will to the Loving and Gracious

> Will

> > > of the Holy Spirit/Comforter, the Will of Allah, the Will of the

> > > Shekinah, the Will of the Maitreya, the Will of the Eykaa Mayee,

> and

> > > the Will of the Great Mother, in order to obtain their

salvation,

> > > moksha, or spiritual liberation.

> > > >

> > > > To even suggest that an Incarnation, or a Prophet would submit

> or

> > > surrender their Will to a mere human being, goes against all the

> > > Teachings of Truth of the Incarnations and Prophets themselves!

> > > >

> > > > Violet

> > > >

> > >

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