Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Narasimhaji and others, In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe15/sbe15034.htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation): " From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell) " This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification? Thank you, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Dear Sundeep, With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM Dear Narasimhaji and others,In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) :"From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell)"This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification?Thank you,Sundeep Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Dear Rajarshi, Not sure if I get the thrust of your point. Yes, sadhana is the only way to know this for sure. And so also for everything else that is below the reach of the senses (e.g. Atma, sookshma sarira etc). But we do read about them (all these things e.g Atma etc), and about the significance of the vedic gods anyway, dont we? They do offer a mild complement to sadhana, dont they? They do help make the mind more receptive toward the benefits of sadhana.. Also wanted to assure you that I really want to know the answer to the question. I am not interested in a he-said/she-said type game (if perhaps that is what you were hinting at?). I am extremely curious as to why there is an order and not a parallelism, for e.g. why are the mahabhutas not simultaneously formed. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself.. Regards, Sundeep , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Sundeep, > > With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. > > Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? > > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM Dear Narasimhaji and others, > > In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) : > > " From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell) " > > This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification? > > Thank you, > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in./trynew > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Rajarshi, With all due respect, I disagree. There is no question that is useless and there is no answer that is not relavent. The reason we are not able to perceive God is not that God is not there, but, given our current way of thinking, he can not be perceived. By Sadhana, you are trying to calm your mind and infact, make your current knowledge influence irrelavent which allows you to percieve thing you can not otherwise. There are 4 known margas for self realisation. My understanding of any of these limited. 1. Bhakthi - Surrender to God. Here you rest all other thoughts but for thought pertaining to God. You do not question any thing related to him and give-in completely to the believe that he is there and is your master. By doing so, you are coming out of the clutches of the regular perceptions or dimentions of this material world. 2. Raja - You focus on doing specific postures and concentrate deeply on the way you do things and draw your self away from the regular senses. 3. Karma - Unattached karma. If you can do it, you are not even thinking about God, but, have got him. 4. jnana - By questioning available information, using logic and try to break out of current assumptions and try to discover. Saying, this will not yield results is not a wise thing. How ever, perhaps, this is the most defficult. But, with so many others who are experiancing God, not sure, why the wrong in current axioms can not be corrected. Unfortunately, those who are realised, do not perhaps think it is relavent. There is a soul. Now is Soul physical or not? Can it be seen? If not with naked eyes, to see it materialistically, what is needed? We can see the difference between a body with prana and with out prana. Can't we? Then, why can we try to narrow our focus and try to see prana/atma sceintifically? I am not for this path, but, to say, that is not a path, is perhaps unfair to all those who are destine to traverse that path. Best regards, Vijay , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Sundeep, > > With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. > > Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? > > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji and others, > > In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) : > > " From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell) " > > This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification? > > Thank you, > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in./trynew > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Dear Sundeep, Let me mention some stuff from the diaries of Sri Shamacharun Lahiri (a self realized Yogi of the highest order) - it maybe of some help to you. He did mention in details about the process of creation as he saw it. As per him, at the beginning was the point of ultimate chaos. Then from there came the "vidhyut" of Akash. As this "Vidyut" interacted with the chaos, it produced some universal energies which are more commonly known as the universal deities like Shiva, Vishnu etc etc. Then came the "Vidyut" of vayu ( none of these are the actual physical elements as we see it, but more the essence of the element, hence his use of the word "vidyut" and " taranga") whose interaction with the chaos resulted in some more energy states. Thus, in this way came, Agni, Apa and Prithwi, each one resulting from the previous and each one resulting in some energy states, which in the end resulted in 33 crore possible states of energy. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself.. This is a nice idea and I would like to know more about it. As much as I could fathom (I am no physicist, neither do I have the ability to penetrate the mathematics of the M-Theory), as it stands now, it is quite half formed. There being multiple theories of the String variety, adhered to by multiple physicists, the M-Theory (11 dimensional one) is one of the many which 'claim to explain' in parts some aspects of the physical world. Finding a correlation between this and the idea of the five elements, in my humble opinion, is still far fetched. I can understand some correlation between basic Quantum Mechanics, non-locality etc, and the ideas of Indian mysticism, but a link between M-theory of panch-mahabhuta?.. Well, The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent Re: Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 10:47 AM Dear Rajarshi,Not sure if I get the thrust of your point. Yes, sadhana is the only way to know this for sure. And so also for everything else that is below the reach of the senses (e.g. Atma, sookshma sarira etc). But we do read about them (all these things e.g Atma etc), and about the significance of the vedic gods anyway, dont we? They do offer a mild complement to sadhana, dont they? They do help make the mind more receptive toward the benefits of sadhana..Also wanted to assure you that I really want to know the answer to the question. I am not interested in a he-said/she- said type game (if perhaps that is what you were hinting at?). I am extremely curious as to why there is an order and not a parallelism, for e.g. why are the mahabhutas not simultaneously formed. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself..Regards,Sundeep, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundeep,> > With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. > > Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> wrote:> > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...>> Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa) ?> > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM> > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji and others,> > In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) :> > "From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell)"> > This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification?> > Thank you,> > Sundeep> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in.. com/trynew> Try the new India Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Sorry the previous mail went off incomplete. Dear Sundeep, Let me mention some stuff from the diaries of Sri Shamacharun Lahiri (a self realized Yogi of the highest order) - it maybe of some help to you. He did mention in details about the process of creation as he saw it. As per him, at the beginning was the point of ultimate chaos. Then from there came the "vidhyut" of Akash. As this "Vidyut" interacted with the chaos, it produced some universal energies which are more commonly known as the universal deities like Shiva, Vishnu etc etc. Then came the "Vidyut" of vayu ( none of these are the actual physical elements as we see it, but more the essence of the element, hence his use of the word "vidyut" and " taranga") whose interaction with the chaos resulted in some more energy states. Thus, in this way came, Agni, Apa and Prithwi, each one resulting from the previous and each one resulting in some energy states, which in the end resulted in 33 crore possible states of energy. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself.. This is a nice idea and I would like to know more about it. As much as I could fathom (I am no physicist, neither do I have the ability to penetrate the mathematics of the M-Theory), as it stands now, it is quite half formed. There being multiple theories of the String variety, adhered to by multiple physicists, the M-Theory (11 dimensional one) is one of the many which 'claim to explain' in parts some aspects of the physical world. Finding a correlation between this and the idea of the five elements, in my humble opinion, is still far fetched. I can understand some correlation between basic Quantum Mechanics, (at least the Copenhegan Interpretation), non-locality etc, and the ideas of Indian mysticism, but a link between M-theory of panch-mahabhuta?!.. Well, with the kind permission of Narasimha, I would like to know more about how exactly you can link these two, because I myself with my limited understand fail to see any viable correlation at all as of now, specially, since the M-theory is yet in a very nascent stage. The other thing one must think about is the basic nature of theoritical physics. Does physics describe reality? Or does it provide a model of reality? These two are different. Mathematics provides a tool/model to gauge reality. It need not be exactly as reality is. Which is why Richard Feynman once famously quoted that everyone knows that Quatum Mechanics works, but no one know what it really is! The idea of the pach mahabhuta and creation is almost the essence of everything. The day physics gets THAT deep, there would be really nothing more left to do. Physics is still quite far away from that stage. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent Re: Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 10:47 AM Dear Rajarshi,Not sure if I get the thrust of your point. Yes, sadhana is the only way to know this for sure. And so also for everything else that is below the reach of the senses (e.g. Atma, sookshma sarira etc). But we do read about them (all these things e.g Atma etc), and about the significance of the vedic gods anyway, dont we? They do offer a mild complement to sadhana, dont they? They do help make the mind more receptive toward the benefits of sadhana..Also wanted to assure you that I really want to know the answer to the question. I am not interested in a he-said/she- said type game (if perhaps that is what you were hinting at?). I am extremely curious as to why there is an order and not a parallelism, for e.g. why are the mahabhutas not simultaneously formed. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself..Regards,Sundeep, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundeep,> > With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. > > Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra> > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> wrote:> > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...>> Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa) ?> > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM> > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji and others,> > In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) :> > "From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell)"> > This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification?> > Thank you,> > Sundeep> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in.. com/trynew> Keep up with people you care about with India Mail. Learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Dear Rajarshi, Thank you for the information about the Yogi. Next, regarding the connection between physics and mahabhutas: You have to proceed carefully and logically to understand the correlation. You have to think like an atheistic scientist to anticipate how the correlation between physics and mahabhutas will manifest itself to him! First, let's take the core axiom of all science. Science takes it as an axiom that since all perception is through the senses, the universe is composed *solely* of that which can be sensed (and nothing else). We sense space, we sense time, we see, we feel, we taste, we smell, we hear. So all these percepts are real, nothing else is. If the grand superset of all percepts can be shown to follow a strict set of laws, then science can actually rest pretty easy, no? If everything fits, then why adopt any new-fangled more complex theories of reality when everything is fully explainable using a simpler theory. So the question before all physicists has long been - Can they actually explain everything about the grand superset of all percepts? First there was Newton who showed the very clear laws of motion (so no magic there, he showed). Then there were a whole bunch of chemistry types who saw that no matter how much you divide matter, it's still there. It combines with other matter and makes different compounds, but atoms are not being messed with. Are atoms perceivable - no they're not, but collect them in a huge bunch and you'll see them, divide them into individual atoms and you cant see them, but they're still there because you can collect them all over again. And then Einstein came along and showed the equivalence of energy and matter, thereby leading even more credence to the fact that the sum total of energy and matter is always conserved, and that too according to strict laws. Where is the need to construct an imaginary God or listen to the outdated Vedas which clearly say - there is more to it than the senses can perceive? (Still in the atheistic scientist frame of mind) The remaining frontiers to complete the understanding of all nature were the big bang (how did it come about?), black holes (what laws are active inside them?), and a theory of particles that unifies gravity with the rest of matter. Regarding this third part, try as they might, they just have not been able to come up with some common denominator that allows gravity and the rest of matter to follow the *same* set of strict laws. Then, along come these string theorists and show that if the underlying thing is assumed to be this teensy weensy string, then maybe we can make things work (i.e. have a uniform set of laws for gravity and matter). But the how of that is what makes this discussion interesting to this forum. They needed to give this string no less than 11-dimensions(!) to make things work. Now lets zoom in and carefully analyze this point. 11 dimensions? What is a dimension that is not part of the 4 perceivable ones? If you listen carefully to some of these scientists, the reason they created the remaining 7 is that that they needed to " give " these strings 7 extra degrees of freedom. They didnt actually see any dimension, but they needed to postulate these " degrees of freedom " . A degree of freedom is simply a *non-perceivable* dimension i.e. where their string, or parts of it, can exist without following laws of these 4 dimensions, yet obey some higher laws (e.g. conservation of matter/energy). The interesting and most crucial part is right here - they have finally been forced to give these matter-subdivisions (strings) non-sensory reality. In other words, they have been forced to admit to the existence of a non-sensory reality, which is precisely what the Vedas have been harping about all along - that Prakriti gets perceivable by the jnanendriyas only after panchikarana of the tattwas into the mahabhutas but nevertheless, it maintains non-sensory existence even at the tattwa level! So in exactly this sense, I am saying that physics is being led the way of the vedic text, if only through their equations!! Hope this makes sense, Regards, Sundeep , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Sorry the previous mail went off incomplete. > > > Dear Sundeep, > > Let me mention some stuff from the diaries of Sri Shamacharun Lahiri (a self realized Yogi of the highest order) - it maybe of some help to you. He did mention in details about the process of creation as he saw it. > > As per him, at the beginning was the point of ultimate chaos. Then from there came the " vidhyut " of Akash. As this " Vidyut " interacted with the chaos, it produced some universal energies which are more commonly known as the universal deities like Shiva, Vishnu etc etc. Then came the " Vidyut " of vayu ( none of these are the actual physical elements as we see it, but more the essence of the element, hence his use of the word " vidyut " and " taranga " ) whose interaction with the chaos resulted in some more energy states. Thus, in this way came, Agni, Apa and Prithwi, each one resulting from the previous and each one resulting in some energy states, which in the end resulted in 33 crore possible states of energy. > > > > > There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself.. > > > This is a nice idea and I would like to know more about it. > > As much as I could fathom (I am no physicist, neither do I have the ability to penetrate the mathematics of the M-Theory), as it stands now, it is quite half formed. There being multiple theories of the String variety, adhered to by multiple physicists, the M-Theory (11 dimensional one) is one of the many which 'claim to explain' in parts some aspects of the physical world. Finding a correlation between this and the idea of the five elements, in my humble opinion, is still far fetched. I can understand some correlation between basic Quantum Mechanics, (at least the Copenhegan Interpretation), non-locality etc, and the ideas of Indian mysticism, but a link between M-theory of panch-mahabhuta?!.. > > Well, with the kind permission of Narasimha, I would like to know more about how exactly you can link these two, because I myself with my limited understand fail to see any viable correlation at all as of now, specially, since the M-theory is yet in a very nascent stage. > > The other thing one must think about is the basic nature of theoritical physics. Does physics describe reality? Or does it provide a model of reality? These two are different. Mathematics provides a tool/model to gauge reality. It need not be exactly as reality is. > Which is why Richard Feynman once famously quoted that everyone knows that Quatum Mechanics works, but no one know what it really is! > > The idea of the pach mahabhuta and creation is almost the essence of everything. The day physics gets THAT deep, there would be really nothing more left to do. Physics is still quite far away from that stage. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > Re: Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa)? > > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 10:47 AM Dear Rajarshi, > > Not sure if I get the thrust of your point. Yes, sadhana is the only way to know this for sure. And so also for everything else that is below the reach of the senses (e.g. Atma, sookshma sarira etc). But we do read about them (all these things e.g Atma etc), and about the significance of the vedic gods anyway, dont we? They do offer a mild complement to sadhana, dont they? They do help make the mind more receptive toward the benefits of sadhana.. > > Also wanted to assure you that I really want to know the answer to the question. I am not interested in a he-said/she- said type game (if perhaps that is what you were hinting at?). I am extremely curious as to why there is an order and not a parallelism, for e.g. why are the mahabhutas not simultaneously formed. There is some lesson in there (at least for me), and I want to get at it.. I feel there may be some correlation between that and the 11-dimensional physics of super string theory too, but I get ahead of myself.. > > Regards, > > Sundeep > > , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > With all due respect to your query, I wanted to ask, how does it matter? Can anyone here really know for sure which came after which? We can only speculate and guess and retrofit logic and quote one scripture vs another scripture. > > > > Only practical way to really find out the truth is sadhana. That too if we are destined to find out we will, or else no. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > Order of Creation (of mahabhuta/tattwa) ? > > > > Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 1:12 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhaji and others, > > > > In Taittiriya Upanishad (http://www.sacred- texts.com/ hin/sbe15/ sbe15034. htm), the following is the order of creation (Max Mueller interpretation) : > > > > " From that Self 2 (Brahman) sprang ether (âkâsa, that through which we hear); from ether air (that through which we hear and feel); from air fire (that through which we hear, feel, and see); from fire water (that through which we hear, feel, see, and taste); from water earth (that through which we hear, feel, see, taste, and smell) " > > > > This sounds logical to me in that I expected Akasa to be first and earth to be last. I have heard differing opinions though, perhaps in Sanjay Rathji's Brhat Nakshtra but since I dont have the book in front of me, I cant confirm. Do you agree with the interpretation above, if not what is your belief, source and justification? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. Try now! http://in.. com/trynew > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect more, do more and share more with India Mail. Learn more. http://in.overview.mail./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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