Experiences during and post-homam

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* * *

 

Points 1 and 2 could be either meaningful or just simple coincidences. Points 3

and 4 are possible if there is some flow of vaayus in some nadis, to cleanse the

nadis. These really sound like premonitory signs before certain experiences.

 

However, if one read about certain visions or experiences in the past and has

those desires/memories stored in conscious or sub-conscious mind, then also it

is possible to experience similar things.

 

If they are hallucinations, they do not help in your spiritual progress. If they

are not hallucinations, they should slowly bring some internal transformation.

If you see your pride and sense of self-importance go down slowly, if you see

your internal reactions to praises and criticism from people start to become

more moderated and balanced, if you see your weaknesses such as lust, anger,

jealosy etc becoming smaller etc, then you know that you are on the right track.

That alone is the measure of progress.

 

* * *

 

Irresepctive of whether these are hallucinations or genuine experiences, the key

thing is: do not get attracted and get stuck. Suppose one is driving on a road

going to the top of a mountain. Suppose the scenery at some spot is very

beautiful. If one is mesmerized by the scenery and stops there, one will never

get to the top. However beautiful the scenery may be, it is just a distraction

from the final target. Observe the beautiful scenery that comes before your

eyes, but do not develop any attachment with it. It is particularly undesirable

to develop an egoistic attachment, e.g. the sense that " I experienced this. I

have achieved something. I am worthy. " Just observe whatever is thrown at you

and continue the journey.

 

Do not be attracted to an experience and do not view an experience as either

desirable or undesirable. If it comes, let it come. Still focus on the mantra.

 

* * *

 

If we put a spark in wet grass, it will take a long time to catch fire. If we

put a spark in dry grass, it will catch fire quickly. Similarly, some people

will start to experience something quickly when they start a powerful purifying

sadhana such as homam. Some people will take longer. Some people may not observe

the scenery on the side of the road and keep just looking at the road and

suddenly reach the top oneday. Some people may notice all the scenery on the

roadside, i.e. observe various experiences. Your path and progress will be

decided based on your karmas and vasanas, but it pays to know what the final

target is and not be distracted by anything.

 

Your body is not the real you. Even the subtle body you may have visualized is

not the real you. Even the divine light you saw at heart is not the real you.

None of what you saw is the real you. The real you is the all-encompassing light

apart from which nothing exists. When you are established in the real Self,

there is no concept of I, my body, my heart, he, she, you, we, this, that etc.

Until that I is discovered, one keeps walking the path.

 

But what you described sounds good and you seem to be making progress. Good.

Keep your focus and do not be distracted though.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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> Namaste Narasimhaji,

 

It has just been about a month since I've started doing Ganapati homam. I'm

having some very good experiences after I've started doing Ganapati homam.

However, I'm not sure if these are my hallucinations. I wanted to share the same

with you and understand if there are any stages of experiences (I would think

the final one would be seeing the almighty Ganapati deva). Please share your

thoughts on the same.

 

I'm sharing this email only with you. In case you forward it to the group,

please remove my personal details.

 

Following are my experiences:

1. I've been receiving indications from the almighty Ganapati deva from time to

time on my day-to-day activities where some decisions are involved and where I

ask the lord to guide me.

 

2. I've literally experienced the " leela " of deva - I'll narrate one instance

(there are quite a number of them). I'd to catch a luxury bus at 8:00 pm one day

and all buses were running full till 9:30 pm (for two travel companies). I'd an

option to go ahead and check for other travel companies but I felt as if the

lord instructed me to go to a certain place and try for one specific 8 pm bus

which as per my knowledge was already full. I went there and they offered me a

seat near the driver and I was ok to sit there - but the driver asked me to wait

for 10 min as it was very hot inside (till the bus leaves). I waited and went to

grab a cup of tea. When I came back, I was told that the seat near the driver is

gone and now I'm left with a spot near the bus door. In this seat, I certainly

cannot afford to take a nap. I told in my mind - " O Lord - I'm so tired " . Now

typically, I'd loose my temper and shout at that guy. However, I felt some

energy which is

> holding my temper. I felt I would burst at the driver but my anger did not

come out (even I was wondering why). In next 2 min, the same guy came back to me

and told me that one of the seats have been cancelled by some other passenger

who did not turn up and asked me to move inside the bus. I was so thrilled and

had no words to thank the lord. I was able to have a very good nap - thanks to

the " leela of the lord " .

 

3. While meditating after the homam, I've started experiencing some sort of

divine light. I was thinking this was my hallucination earlier. But I'm unable

to experience this without the homam. Earlier I used to see a yellowish light

(not the normal yellow that we generally see - but I know this is a divine one)

which used to come and go - and give me a feel that I'm traversing thru a forest

at a very high speed. I started seeing some other colors as well. In addition to

this, yesterday I saw a divine violet/purple color which was so pleasing - I can

say I've never experienced like this before. The light started small and then it

grew big. And when all this went off and I opened my eyes, I saw that the

external fire was also off. I do try sometimes to medidate without the homam,

but I dont get such experiences. Is there any way you would suggest?

 

4. In one instance during meditation, I saw my body which looked very

differently. And there was a divine yellow light within my body near my heart.

Could this be the internal fire?

 

Frankly, I dont have words to describe all of these.

 

Irrespective of whether this a hallucination or the journey towards God, I'm so

grateful to you for leading us towards this journey. May the Lord Ganapati

shower his blessings on you.

 

Warm Regards

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Pranam Narsimha ji,

 

i had started with homam practices on akshaya tritiya this year. in the

beginning i was at sea because there was a mental block against rituals. but the

way u have been descibing these practices, how they are symbolic of a much

deeper meaning, how it is a cleansing process, how we are strengthening our

bhooth agni, etc., etc. i have become more regular with this practice. if i miss

it on a particular day i feel a crying need to to it the following day.

 

i must admit i have experimented with many practices...have had several gurus...

 

sometimes i feel totally like wet grass which is so difficult to ignite....but

the resolve is there that to be ignited is the most important thing of our

existence on this bhoo plane.

 

now i have started to feel that everything is with a purpose... we just have to

be conscious of this. when u told me to start with ganapati worship even though

i was naturally drawn to shiva, i think it was with a purpose. i could relate

these things to my chart...but that is not so important...and as u have

mentioned, astrology has its limitations.

 

over the last few months i have become very conscious of my limitations.

Earlier, and to some extent even now, these limitations sucked me down...made

me feel low...frozen in thought...but i hope as i gain greater strength within i

will learn how to overcome these feelings and become more free...of energies

that pull me down...

 

at present chanting works for me better than meditation. i sometimes get

emotional during chanting and tears start flowing. there are many blocks that

perhaps need to dissolve...

 

there is a certain relationship that has started building with ganapati and with

fire. i feel happy to light the lamp and take the fire from it to the homam...to

light the agarbattis ...to hear a certain roaring sound that develops if the

fire is strong...to hear the fire crackle....and leap up...

 

a few times it has happened that the fire has gone out...but i try not to get

disturbed because of this...and light it again.

 

i also feel that each and every part of the coconut should burn

completely...though i dont want to be obsessed by this...

 

little by little i feel i am beginning to see a little bit of lali mere lal

ki...jit dekhun tit laal...

 

thank you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> > I'm sharing this email only with you. In case you forward

> > it to the group, please remove my personal details.

>

> I am sending it to the group by removing your personal references, as several

other people may be in the same situation sooner or later.

>

> * * *

>

> Points 1 and 2 could be either meaningful or just simple coincidences. Points

3 and 4 are possible if there is some flow of vaayus in some nadis, to cleanse

the nadis. These really sound like premonitory signs before certain experiences.

>

> However, if one read about certain visions or experiences in the past and has

those desires/memories stored in conscious or sub-conscious mind, then also it

is possible to experience similar things.

>

> If they are hallucinations, they do not help in your spiritual progress. If

they are not hallucinations, they should slowly bring some internal

transformation. If you see your pride and sense of self-importance go down

slowly, if you see your internal reactions to praises and criticism from people

start to become more moderated and balanced, if you see your weaknesses such as

lust, anger, jealosy etc becoming smaller etc, then you know that you are on the

right track. That alone is the measure of progress.

>

> * * *

>

> Irresepctive of whether these are hallucinations or genuine experiences, the

key thing is: do not get attracted and get stuck. Suppose one is driving on a

road going to the top of a mountain. Suppose the scenery at some spot is very

beautiful. If one is mesmerized by the scenery and stops there, one will never

get to the top. However beautiful the scenery may be, it is just a distraction

from the final target. Observe the beautiful scenery that comes before your

eyes, but do not develop any attachment with it. It is particularly undesirable

to develop an egoistic attachment, e.g. the sense that " I experienced this. I

have achieved something. I am worthy. " Just observe whatever is thrown at you

and continue the journey.

>

> Do not be attracted to an experience and do not view an experience as either

desirable or undesirable. If it comes, let it come. Still focus on the mantra.

>

> * * *

>

> If we put a spark in wet grass, it will take a long time to catch fire. If we

put a spark in dry grass, it will catch fire quickly. Similarly, some people

will start to experience something quickly when they start a powerful purifying

sadhana such as homam. Some people will take longer. Some people may not observe

the scenery on the side of the road and keep just looking at the road and

suddenly reach the top oneday. Some people may notice all the scenery on the

roadside, i.e. observe various experiences. Your path and progress will be

decided based on your karmas and vasanas, but it pays to know what the final

target is and not be distracted by anything.

>

> Your body is not the real you. Even the subtle body you may have visualized is

not the real you. Even the divine light you saw at heart is not the real you.

None of what you saw is the real you. The real you is the all-encompassing light

apart from which nothing exists. When you are established in the real Self,

there is no concept of I, my body, my heart, he, she, you, we, this, that etc.

Until that I is discovered, one keeps walking the path.

>

> But what you described sounds good and you seem to be making progress. Good.

Keep your focus and do not be distracted though.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> > Namaste Narasimhaji,

>

> It has just been about a month since I've started doing Ganapati homam. I'm

having some very good experiences after I've started doing Ganapati homam.

However, I'm not sure if these are my hallucinations. I wanted to share the same

with you and understand if there are any stages of experiences (I would think

the final one would be seeing the almighty Ganapati deva). Please share your

thoughts on the same.

>

> I'm sharing this email only with you. In case you forward it to the group,

please remove my personal details.

>

> Following are my experiences:

> 1. I've been receiving indications from the almighty Ganapati deva from time

to time on my day-to-day activities where some decisions are involved and where

I ask the lord to guide me.

>

> 2. I've literally experienced the " leela " of deva - I'll narrate one instance

(there are quite a number of them). I'd to catch a luxury bus at 8:00 pm one day

and all buses were running full till 9:30 pm (for two travel companies). I'd an

option to go ahead and check for other travel companies but I felt as if the

lord instructed me to go to a certain place and try for one specific 8 pm bus

which as per my knowledge was already full. I went there and they offered me a

seat near the driver and I was ok to sit there - but the driver asked me to wait

for 10 min as it was very hot inside (till the bus leaves). I waited and went to

grab a cup of tea. When I came back, I was told that the seat near the driver is

gone and now I'm left with a spot near the bus door. In this seat, I certainly

cannot afford to take a nap. I told in my mind - " O Lord - I'm so tired " . Now

typically, I'd loose my temper and shout at that guy. However, I felt some

energy which is

> > holding my temper. I felt I would burst at the driver but my anger did not

come out (even I was wondering why). In next 2 min, the same guy came back to me

and told me that one of the seats have been cancelled by some other passenger

who did not turn up and asked me to move inside the bus. I was so thrilled and

had no words to thank the lord. I was able to have a very good nap - thanks to

the " leela of the lord " .

>

> 3. While meditating after the homam, I've started experiencing some sort of

divine light. I was thinking this was my hallucination earlier. But I'm unable

to experience this without the homam. Earlier I used to see a yellowish light

(not the normal yellow that we generally see - but I know this is a divine one)

which used to come and go - and give me a feel that I'm traversing thru a forest

at a very high speed. I started seeing some other colors as well. In addition to

this, yesterday I saw a divine violet/purple color which was so pleasing - I can

say I've never experienced like this before. The light started small and then it

grew big. And when all this went off and I opened my eyes, I saw that the

external fire was also off. I do try sometimes to medidate without the homam,

but I dont get such experiences. Is there any way you would suggest?

>

> 4. In one instance during meditation, I saw my body which looked very

differently. And there was a divine yellow light within my body near my heart.

Could this be the internal fire?

>

> Frankly, I dont have words to describe all of these.

>

> Irrespective of whether this a hallucination or the journey towards God, I'm

so grateful to you for leading us towards this journey. May the Lord Ganapati

shower his blessings on you.

>

> Warm Regards

> <deleted>

>