Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Namaste, There are few questions that are lingering in my mind for quite sometime. I hope this is the right forum to discuss about avataras and dharmas restored by these avataras. If not, please ignore my mail and re-direct me (if possible) to a right forum. Question 1: (Lord Ramachandra's dharma) Lord Ramachandra has followed the orders of His father and accepted to go on exile to Vanavasa. Bring a kshatriya, shouldn't He have said to father that His dharma is to rule Ayodhya than spending his time in aranyas? (The great warrior Arjuna wanted to take to do Tapas for he had felt that he is not doing the right thing by killing his near and dear ones...but was prevailed over by Lord Krishna on Kshatriya dharma argument) How is it that Lord Ramachandra has fulfilled his dharma by going to forests and Arjuna neglected his dharma by not killing his relatives? Question 2: Whenever dharma is being abused, Lord comes over to Bhu Loka and sets things in order. egs...Lord Rama of Treta Yuga, Lord Krishna of Dwapara yuga and when they leave after performing their duties, dharma is set right and they have achieved their objectives. Does that mean that before they depart, the dharma of THAT yuga is restored rather than FULL dharma? e.g, Lord Krishna before departing, restored 2-padas of dwaparaYuga dharma and left, instead of restoring the dharma completely? Do avataras have to CONSIDER yuga-dharma also when restoring dharma? Can't they restore it COMPLETELY? If so, do Kalki have to restore the dharma of Kali-Yuga rather than restoring it completely? Question 3: Why did avataras have to happen only in Bharatavarsha? Why did they not happen anywhere else in the world? Thanks & Regards, --Murahari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Namaste, (1) Dharma is personal. Dharma means the right action. The right action changes from person to person and from situation to situation. Depending on your vasanas from previous lives and depending on your current desa-kaala-paatra, Nature expects something from you. What Nature expects from you, i.e. what you are capable of doing based on your vaasanas and rinas that fits with Nature's big scheme at that time, becomes your dharma. Unfortunately, it is not always easy to know one's dharma. When one has a dense ego and strong desires, they corrupt one's vision and stop one from finding out one's dharma correctly. As one's ego reduces and one's desires become less and less, one gets more in tune in with Nature and the clarity of vision regarding one's own dharma improves. As one fulfils one's understanding of one's dharma impassionately without getting entangled in the web of likes, dislikes, expectations, excitement, disappointment etc, it offloads more and more karmas and one becomes karmically lighter and lighter. As that happens, one's clarity regarding one's dharma improves further. Lord Rama was born to kill Ravana and going to the forest was key to building up the confrontation. Also, many people he had to meet, befriend and take help from in the main mission of killing Ravana (e.g. Hanuman, Sugriva, Angada etc) were in the forest. He had several other tasks to do in the forest (e.g. release the curse on Maharshi Gouthama's wife Ahalya). So he had to go to forest. His guru Vasishtha imparted aatma jnaana to him before marriage and he realized his Self then. As a realized person, he went with the flow of Nature and fulfilled his dharma impassionately. If you learn to kill your ego and desires, Nature will take you where you need to go and show you what you need to do! At the time of Mahabharata, the evil people to be destroyed were not in a forest or in a distant land. They were the cousins, supported by other relatives and gurus. Krishna was to reduce the weight on earth with the help of Pandavas and prepare earth for Kali yuga. Thus, Krishna imparted Self-realization to Arjuna and made him into a warrior who discharged his duty without an attachment. What would Arjuna have gained by leaving the battlefield and doing Tapas somewhere in a forest? The goal of all sadhana is Self-realization and it came to him under Krishna's upadesa. Also, he fulfilled his dharma without any attachment, as a realized man, and helped Nature. (2) Though there are formulas for dharma level in a yuga, they are not absolute. The dharma level changes within a yuga also. Within the same yuga, there are phases of relatively more dharma and there are phases of relatively less dharma. When an avatara comes and goes, the dharma level is restored above the current level, to create a buffer against further erosion of dharma. (3) India is the land of rishis, a land of highly concentrated spiritual energy. However, many many millions of years back, the geography of the world may have been different and the whole world may have been one nation. Some Puranic stories are quite likely set in such a world. Even in recent millennia, bharatavarsha extended all the way from Afghanistan (Gandhara->Kandhar) to Malaysia (Malaya), Thailand, Cambodia (Kambhoja->Campuchia->Cambodia) etc. Someone like Jesus Christ may be an avatara. A normal person cannot say "surrender to god, confess your sins and take a commitment to improve. I will then take on your sins." Only an avatara of a deity or a rishi can have such love, compassion, kindness and detachment to the suffering of physical body. Moreover, he established a decent level of dharmik life in almost half of the world for a couple of millennia. These parts of the world may have been far more adharmik if not for him. This is no mean task. Only an incarnation of a deity or a great rishi can do something like that. Of course, if a deity or a rishi needs to be born outside India to fulfil a specific mission, that can happen. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Murahari Vadapalli Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:54 PM Question on Dharma of Lord Sri Ramchandra Namaste, There are few questions that are lingering in my mind for quite sometime. I hope this is the right forum to discuss about avataras and dharmas restored by these avataras. If not, please ignore my mail and re-direct me (if possible) to a right forum. Question 1: (Lord Ramachandra's dharma) Lord Ramachandra has followed the orders of His father and accepted to go on exile to Vanavasa. Bring a kshatriya, shouldn't He have said to father that His dharma is to rule Ayodhya than spending his time in aranyas? (The great warrior Arjuna wanted to take to do Tapas for he had felt that he is not doing the right thing by killing his near and dear ones...but was prevailed over by Lord Krishna on Kshatriya dharma argument) How is it that Lord Ramachandra has fulfilled his dharma by going to forests and Arjuna neglected his dharma by not killing his relatives? Question 2: Whenever dharma is being abused, Lord comes over to Bhu Loka and sets things in order. egs...Lord Rama of Treta Yuga, Lord Krishna of Dwapara yuga and when they leave after performing their duties, dharma is set right and they have achieved their objectives. Does that mean that before they depart, the dharma of THAT yuga is restored rather than FULL dharma? e.g, Lord Krishna before departing, restored 2-padas of dwaparaYuga dharma and left, instead of restoring the dharma completely? Do avataras have to CONSIDER yuga-dharma also when restoring dharma? Can't they restore it COMPLETELY? If so, do Kalki have to restore the dharma of Kali-Yuga rather than restoring it completely? Question 3: Why did avataras have to happen only in Bharatavarsha? Why did they not happen anywhere else in the world? Thanks & Regards, --Murahari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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