Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Pranaam Narasimhaji, I have been following your Mahaganapati Homam for a few weeks now and have been getting good results and for that I am thankful to you and Manishji who is the inspiration behind this. When I started this initially I had big doubts since on the first day I performed the Homam my elder son fell down and broke his tooth and had bleeding (I was reading the story of Ganesha losing his tooth to Parashurama's axe the same day) and the next time I did the Homam my younger son caught his foot in the temple door we were visiting on the same day (Ganesha guarding the door?) and got hurt. I was expecting some negative experiences to come my way when I started the Homams as part of some karmic cleansing but I was expecting them to come my way and not the way of family members so was a bit surprised. I was wondering if you have any thoughts on this. My questions on Homam are the following 1. Have you published a regular or long procedure for Mahaganapati Homam? At some point I would like to try a longer version if that is available. Is the difference only between the 5 types and the 16 types of offering or there is more to it such as detailed puja of digpalas and grahas etc? 2. I recite Sri Rudram/Chamakam path for several years now and would like to do that via Homam. Can you provide some guidance as to how to do this? i.e. when to say swaha? I think it is fairly logical to do that in Rudram but Chamakam is not so clear and swaha seems to come at the end of each anuvaaka only. Or perhaps Chamakam is only to be recited and not offered to Agni Regards Veenu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Namaste, (1) Apart from 16 upacharas instead of 5, there are other things. You invoke Varuna in a kalasha, do 16 upachara pooja, read Pavamaana (purifying) sooktam (also known as Punyaaha vaachanam), do pooja to dikpaalakas etc. Some people do Jayaadi homam as a part of uttaraangam (offerings to various Gandharvas and Apsaras representing various aspects of ourselves, with respective Veda mantras). For vasordhara, some read the entire Chamakam instead of just the 3rd anuvaakam. And so on. I may publish a long manual for Ganapathi homam sometime, if Mother is willing. (2) You can do swaha in Chamakam after each anuvaakam. Some people offer just Namakam in pradhaana homam and read Chamakam for vasordhara. Namakam and Chamakam are a very powerful Vedic prayer. * * * Regarding your experiences, my thought is that your children are special with good spiritual potential. Any sadhana of an ugra devata, homam or meditation, can throw up some tests as one starts to make progress. As I explained earlier, this is like some mess spilling onto the floor as an agressive person tries to take out rotten fruits from a fruit basket and throws them into garbage can, so that some good fruits stuck under can be extracted. A gentle deity will be slow and careful and the spillover will be minimal. Also, the speed at which good fruits are extracted will also be slow. An ugra devata will be fast and agressive and there may be some spillover. But the good fruits are extracted fast that way. With a gentle deity such as Ganesha or Vishnu or Lakshmi, some spillover is possible, but it will be small. Most importantly, one should note that the rotten fruit that spilled over was put in that basket by oneself (i.e. one's own karma) and, for every little spillover, a lot more would've been successfully thrown into garbage can (i.e. bad karmas burnt up in sadhana so that they do not have to be experienced). The fruits of one's sadhana will also be enjoyed by the people to whom one is closely attached and with whom one's karmas are strongly intertwined. However, any negative results due to spillover of karmas will usually be taken by the person oneself. However, if there are gentle and elevated souls around one, they *may* take it on themselves. This is like a gentle and nice person around you hurrying to clean up some rotten fruit spilled over on the floor near you. First of all, these are all signs that Ganesha is not looking at just giving material benefits to you, as he does to most people, but considering you worthy of spiritual progress and testing you. Ganesha can give material and spiritual progress. Secondly, it shows that your children have some potential. Teach them some religious stuff from a young age. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - " homamstudent " <vedichoroscope Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:17 AM Homam Questions > Pranaam Narasimhaji, > > I have been following your Mahaganapati Homam for a few weeks now and > have been getting good results and for that I am thankful to you and > Manishji who is the inspiration behind this. When I started this > initially I had big doubts since on the first day I performed the Homam > my elder son fell down and broke his tooth and had bleeding (I was > reading the story of Ganesha losing his tooth to Parashurama's axe the > same day) and the next time I did the Homam my younger son caught his > foot in the temple door we were visiting on the same day (Ganesha > guarding the door?) and got hurt. > > I was expecting some negative experiences to come my way when I started > the Homams as part of some karmic cleansing but I was expecting them to > come my way and not the way of family members so was a bit surprised. I > was wondering if you have any thoughts on this. > > My questions on Homam are the following > > 1. Have you published a regular or long procedure for Mahaganapati > Homam? At some point I would like to try a longer version if that is > available. Is the difference only between the 5 types and the 16 types > of offering or there is more to it such as detailed puja of digpalas and > grahas etc? > > 2. I recite Sri Rudram/Chamakam path for several years now and would > like to do that via Homam. Can you provide some guidance as to how to > do this? i.e. when to say swaha? I think it is fairly logical to do > that in Rudram but Chamakam is not so clear and swaha seems to come at > the end of each anuvaaka only. Or perhaps Chamakam is only to be > recited and not offered to Agni > > Regards > > Veenu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Narasimhaji, Thank you for your advice. I look forward to the detailed Ganapati Homam manual one day. I have been using this guide in the past for various pujas. It may be of benefit to others. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the procedures as my knowledge in these matters is limited. http://www.sanskritdocuments.org/doc_veda/completevidhi.pdf I tried to combine a simple 16 upchara puja of Ganesha in an idol prior to the 16 upchara homam manual provided by you and received good results. A simple guide (children's guide) for doing 16 upchara Ganesha puja on an idol is available here, again people will need to decide on the accuracy of this manual on their own http://www.balagokulam.org/ganesh/resources/ganeshpoojavidhi.pdf There are several resources on the internet for pujas which vary in content but very limited manuals for Homam and none comes as close to the work that you have done. I hope we can continue to refine these and make them available in short, regular, and detailed formats for sadhakaas depending on the interest and time available with each. Best regards Veenu , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > (1) Apart from 16 upacharas instead of 5, there are other things. You invoke > Varuna in a kalasha, do 16 upachara pooja, read Pavamaana (purifying) > sooktam (also known as Punyaaha vaachanam), do pooja to dikpaalakas etc. > Some people do Jayaadi homam as a part of uttaraangam (offerings to various > Gandharvas and Apsaras representing various aspects of ourselves, with > respective Veda mantras). For vasordhara, some read the entire Chamakam > instead of just the 3rd anuvaakam. And so on. I may publish a long manual > for Ganapathi homam sometime, if Mother is willing. > > (2) You can do swaha in Chamakam after each anuvaakam. Some people offer > just Namakam in pradhaana homam and read Chamakam for vasordhara. Namakam > and Chamakam are a very powerful Vedic prayer. > > * * * > > Regarding your experiences, my thought is that your children are special > with good spiritual potential. Any sadhana of an ugra devata, homam or > meditation, can throw up some tests as one starts to make progress. As I > explained earlier, this is like some mess spilling onto the floor as an > agressive person tries to take out rotten fruits from a fruit basket and > throws them into garbage can, so that some good fruits stuck under can be > extracted. A gentle deity will be slow and careful and the spillover will be > minimal. Also, the speed at which good fruits are extracted will also be > slow. An ugra devata will be fast and agressive and there may be some > spillover. But the good fruits are extracted fast that way. With a gentle > deity such as Ganesha or Vishnu or Lakshmi, some spillover is possible, but > it will be small. Most importantly, one should note that the rotten fruit > that spilled over was put in that basket by oneself (i.e. one's own karma) > and, for every little spillover, a lot more would've been successfully > thrown into garbage can (i.e. bad karmas burnt up in sadhana so that they do > not have to be experienced). > > The fruits of one's sadhana will also be enjoyed by the people to whom one > is closely attached and with whom one's karmas are strongly intertwined. > However, any negative results due to spillover of karmas will usually be > taken by the person oneself. However, if there are gentle and elevated souls > around one, they *may* take it on themselves. This is like a gentle and nice > person around you hurrying to clean up some rotten fruit spilled over on the > floor near you. > > First of all, these are all signs that Ganesha is not looking at just giving > material benefits to you, as he does to most people, but considering you > worthy of spiritual progress and testing you. Ganesha can give material and > spiritual progress. Secondly, it shows that your children have some > potential. Teach them some religious stuff from a young age. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > - > " homamstudent " <vedichoroscope > > Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:17 AM > Homam Questions > > > > Pranaam Narasimhaji, > > > > I have been following your Mahaganapati Homam for a few weeks now and > > have been getting good results and for that I am thankful to you and > > Manishji who is the inspiration behind this. When I started this > > initially I had big doubts since on the first day I performed the Homam > > my elder son fell down and broke his tooth and had bleeding (I was > > reading the story of Ganesha losing his tooth to Parashurama's axe the > > same day) and the next time I did the Homam my younger son caught his > > foot in the temple door we were visiting on the same day (Ganesha > > guarding the door?) and got hurt. > > > > I was expecting some negative experiences to come my way when I started > > the Homams as part of some karmic cleansing but I was expecting them to > > come my way and not the way of family members so was a bit surprised. I > > was wondering if you have any thoughts on this. > > > > My questions on Homam are the following > > > > 1. Have you published a regular or long procedure for Mahaganapati > > Homam? At some point I would like to try a longer version if that is > > available. Is the difference only between the 5 types and the 16 types > > of offering or there is more to it such as detailed puja of digpalas and > > grahas etc? > > > > 2. I recite Sri Rudram/Chamakam path for several years now and would > > like to do that via Homam. Can you provide some guidance as to how to > > do this? i.e. when to say swaha? I think it is fairly logical to do > > that in Rudram but Chamakam is not so clear and swaha seems to come at > > the end of each anuvaaka only. Or perhaps Chamakam is only to be > > recited and not offered to Agni > > > > Regards > > > > Veenu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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