Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

September 1, 2009

Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,

I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being performed at

our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this homam on my own

and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document I am sure I can do it

myself. I have couple of requests from my side:

1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi homam ?

This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and intrest to

perform such a homam.

2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in which I

am deeply intrested :

a) Sudarshana Homam

b) Navagraha Homam

c) Purusha Suktha Homam

I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha Ganapathi

Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.

Swami Sharanam.

Thanks and Regards,

Girish Sundaram

September 2, 2009

Namaste,

(1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday

and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4

hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like

fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating

dal and rice everyday.

However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure

manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.

(2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam

and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana

homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is

more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-

" gisundar " <gisundar

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM

Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

> Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,

>

> I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being

> performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this

> homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document

> I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:

>

> 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi

> homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and

> intrest to perform such a homam.

>

> 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in

> which I am deeply intrested :

> a) Sudarshana Homam

> b) Navagraha Homam

> c) Purusha Suktha Homam

>

> I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha

> Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.

>

> Swami Sharanam.

> Thanks and Regards,

> Girish Sundaram

September 7, 2009

Namaskarams Narasimhaji,

I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a week)starting

this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer them for me.

1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest) ask

my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a Palaghat

Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam he would

light the homam fire himself.

My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it myself

?

2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem

shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right

and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart

, navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras

/mantrams differnet for each diety ?

3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado

bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras.

Kindly let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.

Thanks and regards,

Girish Sundaram

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday

> and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4

> hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like

> fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating

> dal and rice everyday.

>

> However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure

> manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.

>

> (2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam

> and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana

> homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is

> more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

> -

> " gisundar " <gisundar

>

> Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM

> Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

>

> > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,

> >

> > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being

> > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this

> > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document

> > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:

> >

> > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi

> > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and

> > intrest to perform such a homam.

> >

> > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in

> > which I am deeply intrested :

> > a) Sudarshana Homam

> > b) Navagraha Homam

> > c) Purusha Suktha Homam

> >

> > I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha

> > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.

> >

> > Swami Sharanam.

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Girish Sundaram

>

September 7, 2009

Namaste,

(1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What this

namboodiri did is the correct way.

Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then offerings

in it will kindle your internal fire and streamline it, depending on how strong

your identification is (it will get stronger with practice). If anyone handles

that external fire or makes offerings in it, some karmas will be submitted by

that person to your internal fire for burning. This intermingling of karmas can

be allowed for people whose karmas are anyway intertwined, like husband and wife

or parents and children. Of course, you can also take on karmas from the entire

world if you are ready and willing to face their consequences, but a person with

a strong individualized ego should limit the karmas one faces and work on

erasing that ego. When one's ego becomes very subtle, it may be possible to take

on more karmas and face their consequences. After all, if you start plucking

leaves, flowers and fruits from a small plant, it will die. If you guard it and

let it grow very big, it can give flowers and fruits to many more people. So,

until you become very pure, keep working to burn your karmas and free yourself

from the vaasanas (mental conditioning) caused by them.

But some people use fire in the same way an idol is used. They allow anyone to

start the fire in their homam, handle the fire and make offerings in it etc. If

one who strongly identifies one's internal fire with external fire does such

things, it can be disastrous. However, luckily, most people who follow this

approach do not understand much about fire and do not have a strong

identification with the fire. So, fire is practically like an idol for them and

they do not benefit from fire as much as one can. Thus, allowing everyone to

start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and

disastrous at worst.

The best approach is: You start your own fire. Only you handle it. Only you make

offerings in it. In your mind, identify it with your own internal fire

(bhootaagni) that burns in the subtle body. If you do this for a while, a strong

bond is indeed formed. Without your knowledge, the internal fire will become

strong and burn various vaasanas.

(2) There are different methods for beeja, shakti and keelakam, though anga

nyaasa and kara nyaasa are usually standard. Do not worry about these things and

do what you are used to or what you are more attracted to.

As I said many times, these nyaasas are just formality for most people. Placing

a letter in a particular body part has a higher significance than just tough a

part and saying it. Visualizing a specific body part vibrating with a specific

sound is possible only after one makes sufficient progress in purifying one's

subtle perception. So there is no point in discussing what is essentially a

formality. I can tell you that this will not block you.

(3) They should be shown in the video. If you cannot get them, please feel free

to just say it and not show any mudra. It will not block you.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

---- gisundar <gisundar wrote:

> Namaskarams Narasimhaji,

> I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a week)starting

this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer them for me.

>

> 1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest)

ask my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a

Palaghat Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam

he would light the homam fire himself.

> My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it

myself ?

>

> 2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem

shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right

and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart

, navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras

/mantrams differnet for each diety ?

>

> 3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado

bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras.

Kindly let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.

>

> Thanks and regards,

> Girish Sundaram

>

> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday

> > and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4

> > hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like

> > fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating

> > dal and rice everyday.

> >

> > However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure

> > manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.

> >

> > (2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam

> > and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana

> > homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is

> > more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> > Spirituality:

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> >

> > -

> > " gisundar " <gisundar

> >

> > Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM

> > Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

> >

> > > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,

> > >

> > > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being

> > > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this

> > > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document

> > > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:

> > >

> > > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi

> > > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and

> > > intrest to perform such a homam.

> > >

> > > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in

> > > which I am deeply intrested :

> > > a) Sudarshana Homam

> > > b) Navagraha Homam

> > > c) Purusha Suktha Homam

> > >

> > > I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha

> > > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.

> > >

> > > Swami Sharanam.

> > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > Girish Sundaram

September 8, 2009

Namakarams Narasimhaji,

Thanks a lot for clarifying my doubts. You are doing a great service to humanity and the sanathana dharma by guiding people in homams and related activities. I pray to god that you always be our guiding star and guru in this world where its becoming increasingly difficult to find persons who can give proper directions.

Thanks and regards,

Girish Sundaram

Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr Cc: gisundar <gisundarTuesday, September 8, 2009 2:03:49 AM Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

Namaste,(1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What this namboodiri did is the correct way..Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then offerings in it will kindle your internal fire and streamline it, depending on how strong your identification is (it will get stronger with practice). If anyone handles that external fire or makes offerings in it, some karmas will be submitted by that person to your internal fire for burning. This intermingling of karmas can be allowed for people whose karmas are anyway intertwined, like husband and wife or parents and children. Of course, you can also take on karmas from the entire world if you are ready and willing to face their consequences, but a person with a strong individualized ego should limit the karmas one faces and work on erasing that ego. When one's ego becomes very subtle, it may be possible to take on more karmas and face their

consequences. After all, if you start plucking leaves, flowers and fruits from a small plant, it will die. If you guard it and let it grow very big, it can give flowers and fruits to many more people. So, until you become very pure, keep working to burn your karmas and free yourself from the vaasanas (mental conditioning) caused by them.But some people use fire in the same way an idol is used. They allow anyone to start the fire in their homam, handle the fire and make offerings in it etc. If one who strongly identifies one's internal fire with external fire does such things, it can be disastrous. However, luckily, most people who follow this approach do not understand much about fire and do not have a strong identification with the fire. So, fire is practically like an idol for them and they do not benefit from fire as much as one can. Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and

disastrous at worst.The best approach is: You start your own fire. Only you handle it. Only you make offerings in it. In your mind, identify it with your own internal fire (bhootaagni) that burns in the subtle body. If you do this for a while, a strong bond is indeed formed. Without your knowledge, the internal fire will become strong and burn various vaasanas.(2) There are different methods for beeja, shakti and keelakam, though anga nyaasa and kara nyaasa are usually standard. Do not worry about these things and do what you are used to or what you are more attracted to.As I said many times, these nyaasas are just formality for most people. Placing a letter in a particular body part has a higher significance than just tough a part and saying it. Visualizing a specific body part vibrating with a specific sound is possible only after one makes sufficient progress in purifying one's subtle perception. So there is no point in

discussing what is essentially a formality. I can tell you that this will not block you.(3) They should be shown in the video. If you cannot get them, please feel free to just say it and not show any mudra. It will not block you.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows):

http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- gisundar <gisundar > wrote: > Namaskarams Narasimhaji,> I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a week)starting this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer them for me.> > 1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest) ask my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a Palaghat Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam he would light the homam fire himself. >

My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it myself ?> > 2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart , navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras /mantrams differnet for each diety ? > > 3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras. Kindly let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.> > Thanks and regards,> Girish Sundaram> > , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday > > and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4 > > hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like > > fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating > > dal and rice everyday.> > > > However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure > > manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.> > > > (2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam > > and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana > > homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is > > more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them

up.> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC)

website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > - > > "gisundar" <gisundar@.. .>> > <>> > Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM> > Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam> > > > > > > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,> > >> > > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being > > > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this > > > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu

padhati document > > > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:> > >> > > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi > > > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and > > > intrest to perform such a homam.> > >> > > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in > > > which I am deeply intrested :> > > a) Sudarshana Homam> > > b) Navagraha Homam> > > c) Purusha Suktha Homam> > >> > > I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha > > > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.> > >> > > Swami Sharanam.> > > Thanks and Regards,> > > Girish

Sundaram

September 9, 2009

Sri Narasimha garu & Narayan garu,

Namaskaram.

"Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and disastrous at worst"

I was little taken aback by this statement of your's, because when is sit to do Homam, my mother and my 2 yr old son would join me (90% of the times) and i have encouraged them to offer some sesame seeds along with me in the Homam while i read the Atharvaseersham.

I was always under the thought process that, i'm doing Homam and they are sitting with me and doing some seva to god along with me. But after reading your e-mail i'm in doubt whether should i ask them to stop offering in the fire?

It is clear from your earlier e-mail about the answer, but somehow i'm not very comfortable with that statement as my thought process is still like, God has come to my place and everyone of us are serving him (as you have put that like in case of an Idol). Just wanted to just double check with you.

As an alternative, can they offer some flowers and some Sandal paste/Turmeric etc to the Idol that we place along with the Homam instead of offering anything in the fire? or does they (mother oly ) has to perform the ritual independently all by herself and do not offer anything while i perform my ritual.

Please clarify.

Thanks and Regards

KK

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam Cc: "gisundar" <gisundarTuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:03 AM

Namaste,(1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What this namboodiri did is the correct way.Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then offerings in it will kindle your internal fire and streamline it, depending on how strong your identification is (it will get stronger with practice). If anyone handles that external fire or makes offerings in it, some karmas will be submitted by that person to your internal fire for burning. This intermingling of karmas can be allowed for people whose karmas are anyway intertwined, like husband and wife or parents and children. Of course, you can also take on karmas from the entire world if you are ready and willing to face their consequences, but a person with a strong individualized ego should limit the karmas one faces and work on erasing that ego. When one's ego becomes very subtle, it may be possible to take on more karmas and face their

consequences. After all, if you start plucking leaves, flowers and fruits from a small plant, it will die. If you guard it and let it grow very big, it can give flowers and fruits to many more people. So, until you become very pure, keep working to burn your karmas and free yourself from the vaasanas (mental conditioning) caused by them.But some people use fire in the same way an idol is used. They allow anyone to start the fire in their homam, handle the fire and make offerings in it etc. If one who strongly identifies one's internal fire with external fire does such things, it can be disastrous. However, luckily, most people who follow this approach do not understand much about fire and do not have a strong identification with the fire. So, fire is practically like an idol for them and they do not benefit from fire as much as one can. Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and

disastrous at worst.The best approach is: You start your own fire. Only you handle it. Only you make offerings in it. In your mind, identify it with your own internal fire (bhootaagni) that burns in the subtle body. If you do this for a while, a strong bond is indeed formed. Without your knowledge, the internal fire will become strong and burn various vaasanas.(2) There are different methods for beeja, shakti and keelakam, though anga nyaasa and kara nyaasa are usually standard. Do not worry about these things and do what you are used to or what you are more attracted to.As I said many times, these nyaasas are just formality for most people. Placing a letter in a particular body part has a higher significance than just tough a part and saying it. Visualizing a specific body part vibrating with a specific sound is possible only after one makes sufficient progress in purifying one's subtle perception. So there is no point in

discussing what is essentially a formality. I can tell you that this will not block you.(3) They should be shown in the video. If you cannot get them, please feel free to just say it and not show any mudra. It will not block you.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows):

http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- gisundar <gisundar > wrote: > Namaskarams Narasimhaji,> I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a week)starting this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer them for me.> > 1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest) ask my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a Palaghat Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam he would

light the homam fire himself. > My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it myself ?> > 2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart , navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras /mantrams differnet for each diety ? > > 3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras. Kindly let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.> > Thanks and regards,> Girish Sundaram> > , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday > > and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4 > > hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like > > fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating > > dal and rice everyday.> > > > However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure > > manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.> > > > (2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam > > and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana > > homam can also be done on a regular

basis quickly. But navagraha homam is > > more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > - > > "gisundar" <gisundar@.. .>> > <>> > Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM> > Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam> > > > > > > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,> > >> > > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it

being > > > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this > > > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document > > > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:> > >> > > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi > > > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and > > > intrest to perform such a homam.> > >> > > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in > > > which I am deeply intrested :> > > a) Sudarshana Homam> > > b) Navagraha Homam> > > c) Purusha Suktha Homam> > >> > > I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha > > > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger

population is benefited.> > >> > > Swami Sharanam.> > > Thanks and Regards,> > > Girish Sundaram

September 9, 2009

Namaste Shri Krishna Kanth,

I am sure Narasimha meant outside of your immediate family. Immediate family

includes spouse, children and parents. However, if you have a strong karmic

connection with someone from previous lifetime's then they can also participate.

Of course, this may not be obvious. For example, there was a gentleman whose

last rites was performed not by his kids, but by one of his foreign students.

Needless to say, the last rites are considered very important ritual and is a

privilege of the children, however, in this case since there was a karmic

connection, the foreign student (whom the gentleman also considered as one of

his spiritual children) ended up performing the ritual.

Regards

Narayan

, krishna Kanth <kritels wrote:

>

> Sri Narasimha garu & Narayan garu,

>

> Namaskaram.

>

> " Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire

can be inefficient at best and disastrous at worst "

>

> I was little taken aback by this statement of your's, because when is sit to

do Homam, my mother and my 2 yr old son would join me (90% of the times) and i

have encouraged them to offer some sesame seeds along with me in the Homam while

i read the Atharvaseersham.

>

> I was always under the thought process that, i'm doing Homam and they are

sitting with me and doing some seva to god along with me. But after reading your

e-mail i'm in doubt whether should i ask them to stop offering in the fire?

>

> It is clear from your earlier e-mail about the answer, but somehow i'm not

very comfortable with that statement as my thought process is still like, God

has come to my place and everyone of us are serving him (as you have put that

like in case of an Idol). Just wanted to just double check with you.

>

> As an alternative, can they offer some flowers and some Sandal paste/Turmeric

etc to the Idol that we place along with the Homam instead of offering anything

in the fire? or does they (mother oly ) has to perform the ritual

independently all by herself and do not offer anything while i perform my

ritual.

>

> Please clarify.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> KK

>

> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

>

> Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

> Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

>

> Cc: " gisundar " <gisundar

> Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:03 AM

>

> Namaste,

>

> (1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What this

namboodiri did is the correct way.

>

> Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then

offerings in it will kindle your internal fire and streamline it, depending on

how strong your identification is (it will get stronger with practice). If

anyone handles that external fire or makes offerings in it, some karmas will be

submitted by that person to your internal fire for burning. This intermingling

of karmas can be allowed for people whose karmas are anyway intertwined, like

husband and wife or parents and children. Of course, you can also take on karmas

from the entire world if you are ready and willing to face their consequences,

but a person with a strong individualized ego should limit the karmas one faces

and work on erasing that ego. When one's ego becomes very subtle, it may be

possible to take on more karmas and face their consequences. After all, if you

start plucking leaves, flowers and fruits from a small plant, it will die. If

you guard it and let it grow very

> big, it can give flowers and fruits to many more people. So, until you become

very pure, keep working to burn your karmas and free yourself from the vaasanas

(mental conditioning) caused by them.

>

> But some people use fire in the same way an idol is used. They allow anyone to

start the fire in their homam, handle the fire and make offerings in it etc. If

one who strongly identifies one's internal fire with external fire does such

things, it can be disastrous. However, luckily, most people who follow this

approach do not understand much about fire and do not have a strong

identification with the fire. So, fire is practically like an idol for them and

they do not benefit from fire as much as one can. Thus, allowing everyone to

start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and

disastrous at worst.

>

> The best approach is: You start your own fire. Only you handle it. Only you

make offerings in it. In your mind, identify it with your own internal fire

(bhootaagni) that burns in the subtle body. If you do this for a while, a strong

bond is indeed formed. Without your knowledge, the internal fire will become

strong and burn various vaasanas.

>

> (2) There are different methods for beeja, shakti and keelakam, though anga

nyaasa and kara nyaasa are usually standard. Do not worry about these things and

do what you are used to or what you are more attracted to.

>

> As I said many times, these nyaasas are just formality for most people.

Placing a letter in a particular body part has a higher significance than just

tough a part and saying it. Visualizing a specific body part vibrating with a

specific sound is possible only after one makes sufficient progress in purifying

one's subtle perception. So there is no point in discussing what is essentially

a formality. I can tell you that this will not block you.

>

> (3) They should be shown in the video. If you cannot get them, please feel

free to just say it and not show any mudra. It will not block you.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

>

> ---- gisundar <gisundar > wrote:

> > Namaskarams Narasimhaji,

> > I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a

week)starting this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer

them for me.

> >

> > 1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest)

ask my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a

Palaghat Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam

he would light the homam fire himself.

> > My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it

myself ?

> >

> > 2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem

shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right

and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart

, navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras

/mantrams differnet for each diety ?

> >

> > 3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado

bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras.

Kindly let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> > Girish Sundaram

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam

everyday

> > > and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes

3-4

> > > hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like

> > > fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs

eating

> > > dal and rice everyday.

> > >

> > > However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure

> > > manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.

> > >

> > > (2) I have all of them in mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam

> > > and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana

> > > homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is

> > > more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

> > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > >

> > > -

> > > " gisundar " <gisundar@ .>

> > > <>

> > > Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM

> > > Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

> > >

> > > > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,

> > > >

> > > > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi Homam and I have seen it being

> > > > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform

this

> > > > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati

document

> > > > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:

> > > >

> > > > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi

> > > > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and

> > > > intrest to perform such a homam.

> > > >

> > > > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in

> > > > which I am deeply intrested :

> > > > a) Sudarshana Homam

> > > > b) Navagraha Homam

> > > > c) Purusha Suktha Homam

> > > >

> > > > I would request you to kindly create documents similar to the Maha

> > > > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.

> > > >

> > > > Swami Sharanam.

> > > > Thanks and Regards,

> > > > Girish Sundaram

>

September 9, 2009

Sri Narayan garu,

Thank you for the classification. I just wanted to double check about the thing we do.

Just curios about the example you referred about the karmic debt, is it regarding Vimalananda and Robert svoboda?

Thanks

KK--- On Wed, 9/9/09, naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote:

naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:26 PM

Namaste Shri Krishna Kanth,I am sure Narasimha meant outside of your immediate family. Immediate family includes spouse, children and parents. However, if you have a strong karmic connection with someone from previous lifetime's then they can also participate. Of course, this may not be obvious. For example, there was a gentleman whose last rites was performed not by his kids, but by one of his foreign students. Needless to say, the last rites are considered very important ritual and is a privilege of the children, however, in this case since there was a karmic connection, the foreign student (whom the gentleman also considered as one of his spiritual children) ended up performing the ritual. RegardsNarayan, krishna Kanth

<kritels > wrote:>> > Sri Narasimha garu & Narayan garu,> > Namaskaram.> > "Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and disastrous at worst"> > I was little taken aback by this statement of your's, because when is sit to do Homam, my mother and my 2 yr old son would join me (90% of the times) and i have encouraged them to offer some sesame seeds along with me in the Homam while i read the Atharvaseersham.> > I was always under the thought process that, i'm doing Homam and they are sitting with me and doing some seva to god along with me. But after reading your e-mail i'm in doubt whether should i ask them to stop offering in the fire? > > It is clear from your earlier e-mail about the answer, but somehow i'm not very comfortable with that

statement as my thought process is still like, God has come to my place and everyone of us are serving him (as you have put that like in case of an Idol). Just wanted to just double check with you.> > As an alternative, can they offer some flowers and some Sandal paste/Turmeric etc to the Idol that we place along with the Homam instead of offering anything in the fire? or does they (mother oly ) has to perform the ritual independently all by herself and do not offer anything while i perform my ritual.> > Please clarify.> > Thanks and Regards> KK> > > > > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:> > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr> Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam> > Cc: "gisundar" <gisundar@.. .>> Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:03 AM> > > > > > > Namaste,> > (1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What this namboodiri did is the correct way.> > Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then offerings in it will kindle your internal fire and streamline it, depending on how strong your identification is (it will get stronger with practice). If anyone handles that external fire or makes offerings in it, some karmas will be submitted by that person to your internal fire for burning. This intermingling of karmas can be allowed for people whose karmas are anyway

intertwined, like husband and wife or parents and children. Of course, you can also take on karmas from the entire world if you are ready and willing to face their consequences, but a person with a strong individualized ego should limit the karmas one faces and work on erasing that ego. When one's ego becomes very subtle, it may be possible to take on more karmas and face their consequences. After all, if you start plucking leaves, flowers and fruits from a small plant, it will die. If you guard it and let it grow very> big, it can give flowers and fruits to many more people. So, until you become very pure, keep working to burn your karmas and free yourself from the vaasanas (mental conditioning) caused by them.> > But some people use fire in the same way an idol is used. They allow anyone to start the fire in their homam, handle the fire and make offerings in it etc. If one who strongly identifies one's internal fire with external

fire does such things, it can be disastrous. However, luckily, most people who follow this approach do not understand much about fire and do not have a strong identification with the fire. So, fire is practically like an idol for them and they do not benefit from fire as much as one can. Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you fire can be inefficient at best and disastrous at worst.> > The best approach is: You start your own fire. Only you handle it. Only you make offerings in it. In your mind, identify it with your own internal fire (bhootaagni) that burns in the subtle body. If you do this for a while, a strong bond is indeed formed. Without your knowledge, the internal fire will become strong and burn various vaasanas.> > (2) There are different methods for beeja, shakti and keelakam, though anga nyaasa and kara nyaasa are usually standard. Do not worry about these things and do what you

are used to or what you are more attracted to.> > As I said many times, these nyaasas are just formality for most people. Placing a letter in a particular body part has a higher significance than just tough a part and saying it. Visualizing a specific body part vibrating with a specific sound is possible only after one makes sufficient progress in purifying one's subtle perception. So there is no point in discussing what is essentially a formality. I can tell you that this will not block you.> > (3) They should be shown in the video. If you cannot get them, please feel free to just say it and not show any mudra. It will not block you.> > Best regards,> Narasimha> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > ---- gisundar <gisundar > wrote: > > Namaskarams Narasimhaji,> > I am planning to start doing regular Ganapathi homam (once in a week)starting this Sunday. I had a few queries . Request you to kindly answer them

for me.> > > > 1) During some homams performed at my home, I have seen the Vadhyar (priest) ask my mother to light the homam fire during the agni invocation. I am a Palaghat Iyer and on other ocassions when we had a namboothiri perform the homam he would light the homam fire himself. > > My question is whether I can ask my wife to start the homam fire or do it myself ?> > > > 2) during the anganyasa and karanysa specifically the glaam beejam , gleem shaktih , glaum kilakam mantraas/mudras , I used to touch the heart , then right and left breasts respectively whereas in the video you have shown it to be heart , navel and below respctively. Is the beejam , shakthih and kilakam mudras /mantrams differnet for each diety ? > > > > 3) There are 4 more avhana mudras for suprIto bhava,suprasanno bhava, varado bhava, sarvAbhIshTaprado bhava. The manual does not talks about these mudras. Kindly

let me know if these are imporatnt and how to show these mudras.> > > > Thanks and regards,> > Girish Sundaram> > > > , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste,> > > > > > (1) Our current goal is to create a group of people who do a homam everyday > > > and short procedure is conducive to it. Doing a one-off homam that takes 3-4 > > > hours is far less useful than doing a 30 min homam everyday. It is like > > > fasting everyday and eating a 30-course meal once every few months vs eating > > > dal and rice everyday.> > > > > > However, your request is good and I will try to create a long procedure > > > manual atleast for Mahaganapathi homam.> > > > > > (2) I have all of them in

mind. Purusha sookta homam is the simplest homam > > > and very useful for spiritual progress. I do have that in mind. Sudarsana > > > homam can also be done on a regular basis quickly. But navagraha homam is > > > more time-consuming. I will eventually put all of them up.> > > > > > Best regards,> > > Narasimha> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > - > > > "gisundar" <gisundar@ .>> > > <>> > > Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:10 AM> > > Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam> > > > > > > > > > Namaskaram PVR Narasimha Raoji,> > > >> > > > I am a big fan of the Maha Ganapathi

Homam and I have seen it being > > > > performed at our home as a kid many times. I always wanted to perform this > > > > homam on my own and after seeing your video and the Laghu padhati document > > > > I am sure I can do it myself. I have couple of requests from my side:> > > >> > > > 1) Is it possible to create a document for the full fledged Ganapathi > > > > homam ? This will be immensely helpful for people who have the time and > > > > intrest to perform such a homam.> > > >> > > > 2) There are some other important homams particularly the following in > > > > which I am deeply intrested :> > > > a) Sudarshana Homam> > > > b) Navagraha Homam> > > > c) Purusha Suktha Homam> > > >> > > > I would request you to

kindly create documents similar to the Maha > > > > Ganapathi Homam PDF so that the larger population is benefited.> > > >> > > > Swami Sharanam.> > > > Thanks and Regards,> > > > Girish Sundaram>

September 9, 2009

Namaste Krishna Kanth,

Suppose god really came to your place in a human form and asked you to give him

some nice food. Will you allow someone who cooks terribly to cook? Why not

allow him to " serve god " ?

It is not just about " serving god " , but serving god *well*. A purified servant

of god serves god with single-minded focus and devotion and has no other

thoughts in mind when serving god. A more normal person may think various things

in mind even when serving god. There is some self-centeredness and ego even in

serving god.

The god in your homam fire is not an external god, but your own internal god.

Through your mental focus, you are projecting the limited manifestation of god

inside you into fire and honing your ability to focus the mind on that god. I

want to clarify one thing here. Though there is actually infinite divinity

inside you, your pre-occupation with so many other things limits (or zeroes) the

divinity that your mind can focus on, access and perceive. By focusing on it

more and more, you grow it. Fire is a good medium to project it for focusing

better. On practice, the divinity inside you that you can focus on and perceive

grows with time. Thus, remember that what is in fire is the limited

manifestation of god inside you that you are able to focus, acces and perceive.

This limited divinity should be nurtured slowly and allowed to grow, rather than

used up for unnecessary things. When this divinity grows and becomes infinite,

all your desires and other thoughts will vanish and you will be able to

single-mindedly focus on that divinity. Some precautions will help you in the

journey.

Karmas and thoughts of people who are making offerings in your homam fire are

basically being received in your internal god. If he has enough power (his power

is, after all, the power of *your own* focus!) to grant a specific desire of

someone, he may just do it. But that makes him weaker and who knows whether the

desire was worthwhile?!

Of course, when you are offering things in fire, you yourself may have some

unnecessary desires which may slow down the spiritual progress. But, that is a

necessary evil and there is no escape. But, why let someone else's desires cause

an extra slow down?

Thus, this is not a matter of political correctness and being nice.

However, there is already a lot of karmic intermixing between people very

closely connected to one karmically, like wife, children and parents. Wife's

desires may affect husband's desires and mother's desires may affect son's

desires already (atleast in a closely bonded and old-fashioned families). So

there is no significant drawback to allowing them to share fire.

Bottomline:

If some people are so close to you that you want to allow their karmas and their

desires to affect your spiritual progress and slow you down, then allow such

people to offer in your homam fire. Even if you do not allow specifically, some

close people's karmas and desires may already be directly affecting your own

karmas and desires and hence slowing you down!

Usually, that would be immediate family, but you know your situation better.

Best regards,

Narasimha

Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

---- naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote:

> Namaste Shri Krishna Kanth,

>

> I am sure Narasimha meant outside of your immediate family. Immediate family

includes spouse, children and parents. However, if you have a strong karmic

connection with someone from previous lifetime's then they can also participate.

Of course, this may not be obvious. For example, there was a gentleman whose

last rites was performed not by his kids, but by one of his foreign students.

Needless to say, the last rites are considered very important ritual and is a

privilege of the children, however, in this case since there was a karmic

connection, the foreign student (whom the gentleman also considered as one of

his spiritual children) ended up performing the ritual.

>

> Regards

> Narayan

>

> , krishna Kanth <kritels wrote:

> >

> > Sri Narasimha garu & Narayan garu,

> >

> > Namaskaram.

> >

> > " Thus, allowing everyone to start or handle or making offerings into you

fire can be inefficient at best and disastrous at worst "

> >

> > I was little taken aback by this statement of your's, because when is sit to

do Homam, my mother and my 2 yr old son would join me (90% of the times) and i

have encouraged them to offer some sesame seeds along with me in the Homam while

i read the Atharvaseersham.

> >

> > I was always under the thought process that, i'm doing Homam and they are

sitting with me and doing some seva to god along with me. But after reading your

e-mail i'm in doubt whether should i ask them to stop offering in the fire?

> >

> > It is clear from your earlier e-mail about the answer, but somehow i'm not

very comfortable with that statement as my thought process is still like, God

has come to my place and everyone of us are serving him (as you have put that

like in case of an Idol). Just wanted to just double check with you.

> >

> > As an alternative, can they offer some flowers and some Sandal

paste/Turmeric etc to the Idol that we place along with the Homam instead of

offering anything in the fire? or does they (mother oly ) has to perform the

ritual independently all by herself and do not offer anything while i perform my

ritual.

> >

> > Please clarify.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > KK

> >

> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

> >

> > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr

> > Re: Query related to Maha Ganapathi Homam

> >

> > Cc: " gisundar " <gisundar

> > Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:03 AM

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > (1) Namboodiris are (or atleast used to be) adepts in fire worship. What

this namboodiri did is the correct way.

> >

> > Visualize the external fire as your internal fire and worship it. Then