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August 16, 2009

----- Forwarded Message ----rajeev Rajeev <airavat15asthikasamajCc: Dnkayshap Nath <dnkayshapnath; Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath; hinducivilization <hinducivilization >; Hinduism Environment <Hinduism_environmentSaturday, August 15, 2009 5:09:50 PMRe: [asthikasamaj] Fwd: tamilhindu/gayatri-mantra-for-all/ intro & part 1

Dear Sir/Madam,

The question raised in this mail is quite interesting. The same were debated at various points of time.

2) Many of the learned person,who are/were authority on Hinduism are of the opinion that it should not be restricted to Brahmins only.

3) An Institute like Ramakrishna Matha says any person can meditate on Gayatri.

4) Some orthodox/conservati ve Brahmins were/are not in favour of it to make it public. As a result of this,some other slokas/mantras were written for the satisfaction of other castes,these are known as Vishnu Gayatri, Siva Gayatri, Dakshinamurty Gayatri, Durga gayatri, Rudra gayatri etc.

5) Interestingly, this Gayatri mantra was written by Vishwamitra, who himself was not a brahmin.

6) It is not known ,why, how and when the people of Brahmin caste had own it.

7) As far as Rig veda is concerned, this sloka/mantra does not contain ".Om bhur bhuvah swah" in original Gayatri. In case of any doubt,one may kindly refer to Rig Veda.

8) "OM" was borrowed from a non Vedic religion known as "Saivaism" wherein it is known as "Beeja Mantra". This was refered as "verval expression(vachaka) of Iswara/Siva as indicated in the well known Yoga Sutra(1.27). This was adopted in Vedic literature during Upanishadic period. Earlier vedic literatures do not mention "OM".

9) "Gayatri" and "Savita" ,both are faminine words, on the other hand "Surya or Sun" is a masculine word. we do not know how a faminine gender is mapped on a masculine gender.

A suitable clrrification to the above doubts will be highly appreciated.

With kind regards.

Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri--- On Sat, 15/8/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote:

G Balasubramanian <gbsub >[asthikasamaj] Fwd: tamilhindu/gayatri- mantra-for- all/ intro & part 1asthikasamaj@ . co.inSaturday, 15 August, 2009, 1:09 PM

Dear Brothers and Sisters,I write this in response to the query of brother Sivasankaran as below.The conservative and orthodox view on women and people belonging to other varnas chanting Gayatri Mantram and Veda Mantras is an emphatic "No". Knowledgeable people say that women and sudras have no adhikara to chant them. (Dasaratha) Rama is reported to have performed Sandhyavandanam and Gayatri Japam though a Kshatriya by birth, as seen from Valmiki

Ramayanam.

Those who respect the varnasrama dharma as enunciated in the Gita and other Smruties will go by the injunctions contained in scriptures. Those who have scant regard to caste system, will condemn the restrictions. They seem to think Gayatri is a Universal Mantra and anybody can chant that Mantra. This view is backed by some religious heads(Mataadhipatis) also.Incidentally, reforms in the area of women`s rights and observances were started some centuries ago by organisations like Brahmo Samaj, Arya Samaj etc. etc. and since then we find gradually Brahmins have abandoned the erstwhile practices in Hindu society and have opted for easier options. They have got influenced by the practices adopted by rich and scientifically advanced countries. In Northern parts of India, women are found participating in havans as titwiks ,

visiting crematarium, chanting mantras and even officiating as priests etc.. etc. Some fifty to seventy five years ago women were will not cut their hair unless they became widows. To-day widows do not cut their hair whereas married ladies have resorted to cutting their hair by visiting parlours which were not there earlier. Widows were also required to wear white saress and cover their body thoroughly. This practise is slowly on the way out. Culture and practices are getting modified to a large extent day by day.It is interesting to note that Brahmins who are bound to chant Gayatri Mantram as a vihita karma are not observing it properly, whereas ineligible people want to chant it. We are seeing the effect of kaliyuga in this paradox.G.Balasubramanian

Would appreciate learned comments essentially on two aspects pl.

1. Whether " Gayatri" Mantra is applicable to all Varnas and both the sexes as suggested?

2. Whether woman are allowed to chant " VEDA MANTHRAS"

Regards

R. Sivasankaran

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modern astrophysics and astronomy tell us that our Galaxy called Milky Way or Akash-Ganga contains approximately 100,000

million of stars. Each star is like our sun having its own planet system. We know that the moon moves round the earth and the earth moves round the sun along with the moon. All planets round the sun. Each of the above bodies revolves round at its own axis as well. Our sun along with its family takes one round of the galactic center in 22.5 crore years. All galaxies including ours are moving away at a terrific velocity of 20,000 miles per second. And now the alternative scientific meaning of the mantra step by step:(A) OM BHUR BHUVAH SWAH:Bhur the earth, bhuvah the planets (solar family), swah the Galaxy. We observe that when an ordinary fan with a speed of 900 RPM(rotations Per minute) moves, it makes noise. Then, one can imagine, what great noise would be created when the galaxies move with a speed of 20,000 miles per second. This is what this portion of the mantra explains that the sound produced due to the

fast-moving earth, planets and galaxies is Om. The sound was heard during meditation by Rishi Vishvamitra, who mentioned it to other colleagues. All of them, then unanimously decided to call this sound Om the name of God, because this sound is available in all the three periods of time, hence it is set (permanent). Therefore, it was the first ever revolutionary idea to identify formless God with a specific title (form) called upadhi. Until that time, everybody recognized God as formless and nobody was prepared to accept this new idea. In the Gita also, it is said, "Omiti ekaksharam brahma", meaning that the name of the Supreme is Om, which contains only one syllable (8/12). This sound Om heard during samadhi was called by all the seers nada-brahma a very great noise), but not a noise that is normally heard beyond a specific amplitude and limits of decibels suited to human hearing. Hence the rishis called this sound Udgith musical sound of the above,

i.e., heaven. They also noticed that the infinite mass of galaxies moving with a velocity of 20,000 miles/second was generating a kinetic energy = 1/2 MV2 and this was balancing the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence they named it Pranavah, which means the body (vapu) or store house of energy (prana). B. TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM:Tat that (God), savitur the sun (star), varenyam worthy of bowing or respect. Once the form of a person along with the name is known to us, we may locate the specific person.Hence the two titles (upadhi) provide the solid ground to identify the formless God, Vishvamitra suggested. He told us that we could know (realize) the unknowable formless God through the known factors, viz., sound Om and light of suns (stars). A mathematician can solve an equation x2+y2=4; if x=2; then y can be known and so on. An engineer can measure the width of a river even by standing at the riverbank just by drawing a

triangle. So was the scientific method suggested by Vishvamitra in the mantra in the next portion as under:-C ) BHARGO DEVASYA DHEEMAHI:Bhargo the light, devasya of the deity, dheemahi we should meditate. The rishi instructs us to meditate upon the available form (light of suns) to discover the formless Creator (God). Also he wants us to do japa of the word Om (this is understood in the Mantra). This is how the sage wants us to proceed, but there is a great problem to realize it, as the human mind is so shaky and restless that without the grace of the Supreme (Brahma) it cannot be controlled. Hence Vishvamitra suggests the way to pray Him as under:D) DHIYO YO NAH PRACHODAYAT:Dhiyo (intellect), yo (who), nah (we all), prachodayat (guide to right Direction). O God! Deploy our intellect on the right path. Full scientific interpretation of the Mantra: The earth (bhur), the planets (bhuvah), and the galaxies (swah) are

moving at a very great velocity, the sound produced is Om, (the name of formless God.) That God (tat), who manifests Himself in the form of light of suns (savitur) is worthy of bowing/respect (varenyam). We all, therefore, should meditate (dheemahi) upon the light (bhargo) of that deity (devasya) and also do chanting of Om. May He (yo) guide in right direction (prachodayat) our(nah) intellect dhiyo So we notice that the important points hinted in the mantra are:-1)The total kinetic energy generated by the movement galaxies acts as an umbrella and balances the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence it was named as the Pranavah (body of energy). This is equal to 1/2 mv2 (Mass of galaxies x velocity2). 2)The God could be realized through the saguna (gross), upasana (method), i.e., a. by chanting the name of the supreme as OM and b. by meditating upon the light emitted by stars (suns).Posted by à®•à¯€à®¤à®¾

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