Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

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Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of

consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous-ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has

returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

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Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan--- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 Descent of the Supramenal ConscinousnessTo:

Date: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of

consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous-ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has

returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

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Namaste

 

Just to put things in perspective, from what I have read till now, Sri Aurobindo does not speak about any Avatar coming at this moment. He says the basic level of human conscinousness will undergo a change. That is the next stage of evolution. Sir Aurobindo uses a different set of termonilogies based on his study of the Vedas and the Tattriya Upanishad. Therefore, when he says "soul" or other such words, they maynot exactly mean what we normally understand as the Atman - the eternal.

 

The core of his philosophy is one of evolution. If Humans have to survive on this planet, they must evolve and prove themselves worthy. Nature is too vast. We live in one planet in one solar system in one milky way which is tucked away in one corner of the universe. There are so many different elements in the Universe, as well as different Universes, that compared to all that we are too tiny as a species. So why should nature have any special liking for us? He says. Nature does not have any special liking or favouratism for humans as a species, untill humans can show that they have the capacity to evolve into a higher level and are worthy. Or else, Sri Aurobindo says, there have been previous creation cycles which had human like species which were destroyed by Nature because they could not evolve. Nature is the Sovereign of ALL UNIVERSES. Therefore Nature's perspective is different from that of an averge human.

 

So the purpose of life and an Avatar is to push the species into higher realms of evolution. The next stage of evolution is a spiritual one. In simple words, a time is coming, unlike now, when spiritual truths will establish themselves as obvious and possible in the average human mind, unlike what it is today - a mixiture of doubt and fantasy for most. This he says, will start after 2000. That is teh descent of the Supramental conscinousness.

 

I may not have been able to do justice to the exact shades and nuances of Sri Aurobindo's fascinating and complex philosophy. Any mistakes in the above explanation is pure mine. Not His.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Laxmi Narayan <shrijishrihari wrote:

Laxmi Narayan <shrijishrihariRe: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness Date: Monday, 22 June, 2009, 4:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan--- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Descent of the Supramenal ConscinousnessFriday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of

consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has

returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

 

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Namaste,

 

Aurobindo need not be talking about a single "savior" the way people may imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody "connected to" his ashram. Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all. For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta. He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

 

Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a divine play.

 

You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

 

* * *

 

 

The "Asura of Falsehood" that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

 

One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

 

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> says about changes coming in the world.

 

I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that. Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

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Laxmi Narayan

Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness Date: Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous-ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

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Namaste Narasimha Garu and Rajarshi,

 

>Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections >between all.

 

Yes. quite evident. I have realized this very fact a couple of years back. also

i meant the same thing when i mentioned in one of the messages that Homam

movement has been started by various sources parallely.

 

To Rajarshi - It was a fantastic read. I liked your delineation and detailed

understanding of Aurobinod's article. As you rightly mentioned, when we sum up

the article and Narasimha's feeling (and foresight of few others as well), it

can mean that the Age of Truth or Dharma (However small duration it may last)

within Kaliyuga is about to Start - Probably, in the coming few decades or

centuries ground will be prepared.

 

 

>There are so many different elements in the Universe, as well as >different

Universes, that compared to all that we are too tiny as a >species.

 

If Information from one particular slide (About Physical Universe)is any way

close to authentic, then, the scaling of Milky Way and our solar system can be

relates thus: if Milky way is mapped to 130 Km in Diameter - Our entire solar

system is reduced to 2mm in width.

 

So now any scale to map our physical ego?

 

Warm Regards,

 

Utpal

 

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> Aurobindo need not be talking about a single " savior " the way people may

imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody " connected to " his ashram.

Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all.

For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost

disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta.

He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after

his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa

Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of

Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra

teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri

mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

>

> Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth

that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention

to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher

planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power

of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth

and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his

supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some

key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their

amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a

divine play.

>

> You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings

and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of

spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance

from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

>

> * * *

>

> The " Asura of Falsehood " that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the

subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the

grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

>

> One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should

not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should

fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is

nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job

assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody

and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

>

> > This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> > says about changes coming in the world.

>

> I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the

bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming

decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to

spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that.

Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> -

> Laxmi Narayan

>

> Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

> Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

>

> Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who

might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings?

>

> Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a

Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of

their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days

she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram.

>

> Regards,

> LaxmiNarayan

>

> --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

>

> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14

> Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

>

> Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

>

>

> Namaste

>

> I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's

writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

>

> Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian

freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had

not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the

time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the

divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine

emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even

as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her

material body towards this �descent.�

> �

> Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French

mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they

embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant

to the colossal uncertainties we face today.

> �

> Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter,

and that all matter therefore has a force of consciousness. The process of the

divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by

which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution.

According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events

are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would

soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic)

consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.

> �

> Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo,

but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if

seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if

obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is

a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to

contradict it.

>

> Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an

evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made

tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent

its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her

death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be

termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth,

and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular

consciousness.

>

> Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life,

and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another

leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the

Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we

will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is

�animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an

individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.

> �

> Next is the �human human,� a species that is

spontaneous-ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding

supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from

soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

>

> Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense

physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is

supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

>

> Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental

Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This

will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species,

the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

>

> The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing

supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own

bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental

consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of

the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation

in collective matter.

> Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding

resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four

�Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There

is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and

the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and

which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the

Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the

Asura of Suffering has returned to Source, and so only the latter two still

remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of

Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own

intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to

see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current

political sphere.

>

> With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our

old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo

emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be

necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and

our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he

maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this

resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will

eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty,

and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the

world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of

harmonization!

>

> When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother

believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was

quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was

a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction,

�although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000

would be a turning point.

>

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

says about changes coming in the world.

>

> -Regards

> Rajarshi

>

> The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Narasmihaji

 

I have a question. Though it will probably sound stupid to a learned man like you, but I just could not get a convincing answer to it, so thought of putting this question in this forum.

 

 

You mentioned that a senior Maharishi is doing this. In the books of Vimalananda he says Naths, Munis and Rishis are higher beings, even higher than deities.

 

What confuses me is that, what can be higher than a deity? For example Goddes Durga is the supreme mother of all worlds, then how can a Rishi or any being be higher than Her? Or lord Shiva or Narayana?

 

I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions or is it She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish to come true? Which one came first?

 

It gets confusing-.

 

As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I pray to is the Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that Rishis are even beyond this, then doubt creeps in, is the deity therefore not as supreme as is made out to be?

 

Sorry if these questions seem childish, but I really get confused thinking about this.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness Date: Monday, 22 June, 2009, 9:32 AM

 

 

 Namaste,

 

Aurobindo need not be talking about a single "savior" the way people may imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody "connected to" his ashram. Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all. For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta. He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

 

Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a divine play.

 

You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

 

* * *

 

 

The "Asura of Falsehood" that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

 

One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

 

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> says about changes coming in the world.

 

I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that. Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

 

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

 

-

Laxmi Narayan

 

Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Descent of the Supramenal ConscinousnessFriday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of

consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has

returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

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[Guest guest]

Namaste everyone!

 

What an interesting thread!! Dear Rajarshiji, I join you in your 'confusion'. I

have myself often wondered about the hierarchy of Divine beings.. however I do

believe that there is nothing 'higher' than the Supreme Brahman.

 

When we delve into the metaphysical/abstract realms, things do get confusing.

All the more so, because our intellectual/logical mind is limited and cannot

grasp these 'complexities'. I have read that there are several astral

planes/dimensions/parallel worlds that exist alongside our world, i.e planet

Earth. Some of these astral planes are very close to our dimension, so it's

easier for the ascended Siddhas who dwell in these planes, to have an impact

onto our existence directly. For example, someone on the Moon would communicate

more easily with us earthlings than say, someone from a farther planet like

Saturn. However, the Supreme Brahman is beyond all these planes of existence...

 

My two pence.

 

, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

>

> Namaste Narasmihaji

>  

> I have a question. Though it will probably sound stupid to a learned man like

you, but I just could not get a convincing answer to it, so thought of putting

this question in this forum.

>  

>  

> You mentioned that a senior Maharishi is doing this. In the books of

Vimalananda he says Naths, Munis and Rishis are higher beings, even higher than

deities.

>  

> What confuses me is that, what can be higher than a deity? For example Goddes

Durga is the supreme mother of all worlds, then how can a Rishi or any being be

higher than Her? Or lord Shiva  or Narayana?

>  

> I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions or is it

She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish to come true? Which one

came first?

>  

> It gets confusing-.

>  

> As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I pray to is the

Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that Rishis are even beyond this,

then doubt creeps in, is the deity therefore not as supreme as is made out to

be?

>  

> Sorry if these questions seem childish, but I really get confused thinking

about this.

>  

> -Regards

>  Rajarshi

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

>  

>

> The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

>

> --- On Mon, 22/6/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

>

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

>

> Monday, 22 June, 2009, 9:32 AM

>

>



> Namaste,

>  

> Aurobindo need not be talking about a single " savior " the way people may

imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody " connected to " his ashram.

Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all.

For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost

disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta.

He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after

his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa

Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of

Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra

teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri

mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

>  

> Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth

that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention

to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher

planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power

of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth

and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his

supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some

key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their

amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a

divine play.

>  

> You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings

and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of

spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance

from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

>  

> *        *        *

>  

>

> The " Asura of Falsehood " that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the

subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the

grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

>  

> One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should

not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should

fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is

nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job

assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody

and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

>  

> > This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> > says about changes coming in the world.

>  

> I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the

bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming

decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to

spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that.

Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

>  

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

>

>

> -

> Laxmi Narayan

>

> Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

> Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

>  

>

>

>

> Hi, Some time back I saw  similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might

be coming down to earth to help Human Beings?

>  

>  Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a

Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of

their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days

she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram.

>  

> Regards,

> LaxmiNarayan

>  

> --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

>

> Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

>

Namaste

>  

> I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting

it here for anyone interested.

>  

> Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and

yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed

before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a

new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest

right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life

was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a

breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards

this �descent.�

> �

> Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra

Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a

journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the

colossal uncertainties we face today.

> �

> Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all

matter therefore has a force of consciousness. The process of the divine spirit

descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the

divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri

Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring

simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be

experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic)

consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.

> �

> Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he

makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active

in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from

descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine

plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

>

> Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary

crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous

strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own

extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in

1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed

the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is

active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

>

> Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with

the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even

more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo

speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to

experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current

species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely

obstructed from contacting and merging with it.

> �

> Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to

birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that

is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than

mind-consciousness.

>  

> Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body,

but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental

consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

>  

> Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,�

divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a

race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity

of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

>

> The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental

consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since

this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness

was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth,

awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in

collective matter.

> Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri

Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,�

essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura

of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of

Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be

in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness

(Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of

Suffering has returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to

wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood

�channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive

inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how

this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political

sphere.

>

> With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete

human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that

although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily

catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world

for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained,

carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means

other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be

absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It

may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the

destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

>

> When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the

world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent.

The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now,

and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this

minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning

point.

>  

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about

changes coming in the world.

>  

> -Regards

>  Rajarshi

>  

>

> The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Namaste Rajarshi,

 

The non-dual Aatman or Brahman is the original source of everything. But the world of duality is a lot more tricky.

 

Please see the "many faced diamond" analogy for god at the end of /message/1 to get clarity on why different people give different hierarchies and consider different beings as supreme. As per Narayana sooktam, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Narayana. As per Ganapathi Atharva seersham, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Ganapathi. As per Ganapathi Atharva seersham, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Ganapathi. As per Suryopanishat, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Surya. And so on.

 

The duality is so vast and yet non-duality is the underlying supreme reality in duality. Thus, the hierarchy within hierarchy will have to start at the connection with non-duality and it is not one. In other words, any hierarchy given by anyone is with respect to one perspective. I will not be too keen on finalizing one hierarchy, because that cannot be done really. If you haven't before, do read the analogy in the last part of the mail mentioned above. It is an analogy worth getting into your thinking system.

 

* * *

 

> I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions

> or is it She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish

> to come true? Which one came first?

 

There is no causal relationship between the two. Actions of rishis and the will of the supreme cosmic being are in sync. They just happen together. Neither causes the other.

 

Rishis are the most perfected beings without a trace of ego and yet performing actions of great consequence, with zero attachment. They operate right on the border of duality and non-duality.

 

* * *

 

 

> As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I

> pray to is the Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that

> Rishis are even beyond this, then doubt creeps in, is the deity

> therefore not as supreme as is made out to be?

 

Our ego does not leave us even in sadhana. Sometimes, one's belief that one's guru is the best guru or the god one prays to is the supreme one is rooted in one'e ego and one's need to be the best and be associated with the best. Just contemplate if that is the case and if it is, try to root out such thinking.

 

Having said that, do look at the god you pray to as the supreme and try to reach the supreme through him/her by surrendering to him/her. If you take a low level manifestation of that deity, then rishis may indeed be beyond him/her as Vimalananda said. But, if you take the highest manifestation of the deity, as the supreme cosmic being, then rishis are his playmates and neither above nor below.

 

* * *

 

If you take a company, there may be a chairman who may be the highest authority. But, it may be a ceremonial role and some may consider CEO to be higher while some may consider the chairman to be higher. Why bother about who is higher? In a company does well, they both work with understanding.

 

The hierarchy is irrelevant to one who is a clerk at the company. Just follow the order of your boss (guru) instead of wondering whether chairman calls the shots or CEO.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

-

rajarshi nandy

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:56 AM

Re: Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Narasmihaji

 

I have a question. Though it will probably sound stupid to a learned man like you, but I just could not get a convincing answer to it, so thought of putting this question in this forum.

 

You mentioned that a senior Maharishi is doing this. In the books of Vimalananda he says Naths, Munis and Rishis are higher beings, even higher than deities.

 

What confuses me is that, what can be higher than a deity? For example Goddes Durga is the supreme mother of all worlds, then how can a Rishi or any being be higher than Her? Or lord Shiva or Narayana?

 

I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions or is it She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish to come true? Which one came first?

 

It gets confusing-.

 

As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I pray to is the Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that Rishis are even beyond this, then doubt creeps in, is the deity therefore not as supreme as is made out to be?

 

Sorry if these questions seem childish, but I really get confused thinking about this.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness Date: Monday, 22 June, 2009, 9:32 AM

 

 

 Namaste,

 

Aurobindo need not be talking about a single "savior" the way people may imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody "connected to" his ashram. Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all. For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta. He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

 

Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a divine play.

 

You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

 

* * *

 

 

The "Asura of Falsehood" that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

 

One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

 

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> says about changes coming in the world.

 

I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that. Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

 

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

 

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Laxmi Narayan

 

Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Descent of the Supramenal ConscinousnessFriday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

 

Very good article/discussion..Thanks for sharing it.

 

If I can, Let me also ask some basic questions. (I am very new to all this. Search for some answers has brought me to this forum.)

 

a) Why Madhukaitam is  so bad/evil? Is it not that the world is being sustained by people keeping their head down and doing the routine work? Do we not please the God by keeping our head down and playing the role assigned to us ? An obvious answer comes to mind is that it will keep us away from emancipation and/self-actualization. Correct/Incorrect?

 

b) So,  Is spirituality and materialism two poles apart (and twain shall never meet..). Say I wd like to reach the heights of professional success in my career, Am I doomed not to become a good spiritualist (???)? or, If I want to become self-actualized by 2025, does it mean I should stop planning to climb the professional ladder? I do understand about " Limited Bandwidth " issue - but, then I also read about King Janak. Can I combine these two - if yes, how?

 

 

c) Getting even more confused now,  Why do we say that emancipation is our spiritual goal. If GOD created us, and put us on this stage - should our goal not be to play the role dutifully, which God wants us to play. By seeking for emancipation, are we trying to get off the stage and trying to escape the role assigned to us. Are we not contradicting the God's scheme of things by trying to get out of the scheme?

 

d) Or, Is it part of God's scheme to put us in this " maya " first and then ask us to get out of the " maya " ? Why will he do so? I am sure he will not be playing  " rats in the maze " game. Then, why??

 

e) Sometimes, I also think that all these above questions are meaningless. I look at my pre-school kid and the way she has put her faith in her teacher. She is not worrying about her profession or phd thesis right now. Similarly, probably, Emancipation/Merger in Cosmic soul etc are problems that we should not be thinking at the begining of our spiritual journey - just look to learn/experience more till we are ready (for what?)

 

f) Then, what do we mean by spiritual journey? where/how do we start? I thought about doing homam/reciting mantra - but is that the right way? or there is another way. Probably, there are many ways - then how do I choose my way? An " user guide " or " spirituality for dummies " book  would have been useful. Do we have one?

 

I will appreciate if you can take some time out to guide me here. In fact, probably, I donot even have the right question right now - forget about articulating them well and seeking the answer (I am seeking the problem )

 

 

Regards

 

Sanjay

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Namaste Rajarshi,

 

The non-dual Aatman or Brahman is the original source of everything. But the world of duality is a lot more tricky.

 

Please see the " many faced diamond " analogy for god at the end of /message/1 to get clarity on why different people give different hierarchies and consider different beings as supreme. As per Narayana sooktam, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Narayana. As per Ganapathi Atharva seersham, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Ganapathi. As per Ganapathi Atharva seersham, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Ganapathi. As per Suryopanishat, all gods (including Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Indra etc) came from Surya. And so on.

 

The duality is so vast and yet non-duality is the underlying supreme reality in duality. Thus, the hierarchy within hierarchy will have to start at the connection with non-duality and it is not one. In other words, any hierarchy given by anyone is with respect to one perspective. I will not be too keen on finalizing one hierarchy, because that cannot be done really. If you haven't before, do read the analogy in the last part of the mail mentioned above. It is an analogy worth getting into your thinking system.

 

*        *        *

 

> I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions

> or is it She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish

> to come true? Which one came first?

 

There is no causal relationship between the two. Actions of rishis and the will of the supreme cosmic being are in sync. They just happen together. Neither causes the other.

 

Rishis are the most perfected beings without a trace of ego and yet performing actions of great consequence, with zero attachment. They operate right on the border of duality and non-duality.

 

*        *        *

 

 

> As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I

> pray to is the Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that

> Rishis are even beyond this, then doubt creeps in, is the deity

> therefore not as supreme as is made out to be?

 

Our ego does not leave us even in sadhana. Sometimes, one's belief that one's guru is the best guru or the god one prays to is the supreme one is rooted in one'e ego and one's need to be the best and be associated with the best. Just contemplate if that is the case and if it is, try to root out such thinking.

 

Having said that, do look at the god you pray to as the supreme and try to reach the supreme through him/her by surrendering to him/her. If you take a low level manifestation of that deity, then rishis may indeed be beyond him/her as Vimalananda said. But, if you take the highest manifestation of the deity, as the supreme cosmic being, then rishis are his playmates and neither above nor below.

 

*        *        *

 

If you take a company, there may be a chairman who may be the highest authority. But, it may be a ceremonial role and some may consider CEO to be higher while some may consider the chairman to be higher. Why bother about who is higher? In a company does well, they both work with understanding.

 

The hierarchy is irrelevant to one who is a clerk at the company. Just follow the order of your boss (guru) instead of wondering whether chairman calls the shots or CEO.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

-

rajarshi nandy

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:56 AM

Re: Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste Narasmihaji

 

I have a question. Though it will probably sound stupid to a learned man like you, but I just could not get a convincing answer to it, so thought of putting this question in this forum.

 

You mentioned that a senior Maharishi is doing this. In the books of Vimalananda he says Naths, Munis and Rishis are higher beings, even higher than deities.

 

What confuses me is that, what can be higher than a deity? For example Goddes Durga is the supreme mother of all worlds, then how can a Rishi or any being be higher than Her? Or lord Shiva or Narayana?

 

I mean is it the Rishi who is acting our the Mother's instructions or is it She who is creating the environment for the Rishi's wish to come true? Which one came first?

 

It gets confusing-.

 

As a devotee it is natural and simple to believe that the God I pray to is the Ultimate Supreme authority, but when I hear that Rishis are even beyond this, then doubt creeps in, is the deity therefore not as supreme as is made out to be?

 

Sorry if these questions seem childish, but I really get confused thinking about this.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

Date: Monday, 22 June, 2009, 9:32 AM

 

 

 Namaste,

 

Aurobindo need not be talking about a single " savior " the way people may imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody " connected to " his ashram. Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all. For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta. He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

 

Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a divine play.

 

You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

 

*        *        *

 

 

The " Asura of Falsehood " that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

 

One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

 

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> says about changes coming in the world.

 

I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that. Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

 

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

 

-

Laxmi Narayan

 

Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw  similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings?  Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram.

 Regards,LaxmiNarayan --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

Friday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.�

�Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.

�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.

�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

 

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.

�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

 

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.

Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

 

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

 

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Just as an addition to this mail, recently I was talking to someone connected to the Aurobindo Ashram. Sri Aurobindo had said that there will be five special people who will do the chief work for this change that will be coming. Of these, two were disciples of Sri Aurobindo (they have expired now), and three other very elevated souls who are not connected to his ashram in any way.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 22/6/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness Date: Monday, 22 June, 2009, 9:32 AM

 

 

 Namaste,

 

Aurobindo need not be talking about a single "savior" the way people may imagine. Also, he need not be talking about somebody "connected to" his ashram. Moreover, when it comes to great lineages, there are connections between all. For example, Aurobindo used to visit the house of Sister Nivedita, the foremost disciple of Swami Vivekananda and knew her well when he still lived in Calcutta. He had a vision in his prison cell of Swami Vivekananda, just a few years after his death, in which he imparted Aurobindo some key knowledge. Paramahamsa Yogananda grew up in Calcutta and learnt Sanskrit from M, who was a sishya of Ramakrishna and wrote the gospel of Ramakrishna. Trilinga Swami sent a tantra teacher to Ramakrishna to expand his knowledge. Trilinga Swami knew Lahiri mahashaya and admired him. And so on.

 

Coming back to the main point, the supermind established in the field of earth that was referred to by Aurobindo can simply be a maharshi paying some attention to matters on earth. A maharshi absorbed in the divine in one of the higher planes of consciousness can accomplish huge changes on earth by the mere power of his thought. If there is a divine play to make some positive changes on earth and a maharshi takes part in the play, he may focus a small part of his supermind on the affairs of earth and direct a few important souls to do some key work. Some important souls (deities, rishis or yogis etc) may send their amshas (partial essence) to be born on earth to fulfil different parts of a divine play.

 

You may then see several (not just one) elevated beings, enlightened beings and realized beings born on earth to bring clarity in different aspects of spiritual knowledge. Each of them will get specific internal/external guidance from the divine, based on what their part in the play is.

 

* * *

 

 

The "Asura of Falsehood" that Aurobindo alluded to is all around us. At the subtlest level, he manifests as false ego in pretty much everybody. At the grossest level, he manifests as blatant lies, wrong propaganda etc.

 

One should not tolerate this Asura (demon) and fight hard. However, one should not hate this Asura or those afflicted by him. When we encounter lies, we should fight and stand for truth but not hate the liar at the same time. There is nothing that needs to be hated in this world. One should learn to do the job assigned to one by Nature without attraction or repulsion to anything or anybody and with unconditional love (i.e. no expectations of a return) to all.

 

> This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji

> says about changes coming in the world.

 

I know very little. But I was told that an age that is somewhat like the bygone ages will be established on earth for a few hundred years in the coming decades. The reason the Divine Mother appeared before Manish and asked him to spread simple homam procedures in the world was to prepare the grounds for that. Manish also told me that all this is the play of a senior maharshi.

 

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

 

-

Laxmi Narayan

 

Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

Re: Descent of the Supramenal Conscinousness

 

 

 

 

Hi, Some time back I saw similar article and was intrigued by it. Who might be coming down to earth to help Human Beings? Personally, I believe it was pointing towards Mother Meera. She is a Enlightened person and has helped thousands who go to her by removing some of their karmic cords. Although she now lives in Germany but in her younger days she was connected to Aurobindo;s ashram. Regards,LaxmiNarayan --- On Fri, 19/6/09, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Descent of the Supramenal ConscinousnessFriday, 19 June, 2009, 9:31 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I found an interesting article based on Sri Aurobindo's writing. I am posting it here for anyone interested.

 

Near the beginning of the 20th century the great Indian freedom fighter and yogi-sage, Sri Aurobindo, began to express a truth which had not been expressed before. In his high states of divine union he saw that the time had come for a new stage in the evolution of mankind. He saw that the divine was to manifest right here on Earth and that the time for this divine emergence into Earth life was now. He spoke of heaven descending to Earth, even as Earth experienced a breakdown due to the intrinsic resistance held within her material body towards this �descent.��Sri Aurobindo was joined in Pondicherry, India, by a French mystic, Mirra Alfassa, who later became known as the Mother. Together they embarked on a journey of intensive cellular transformation that is very relevant to the colossal uncertainties we face today.�Sri Aurobindo saw that the divine force permeates all matter, and that all matter therefore has a force of

consciousness. The process of the divine spirit descending down into matter is called involution. The process by which the divine ascends back upwards out of matter is called evolution. According to Sri Aurobindo, humanity has reached a stage where these two events are occurring simultaneously, and in his inner visions, he foresaw that we would soon be experiencing a descent of what he called �supramental (or monadic) consciousness� that would entirely change everything on Earth.�Man�s greatness is not in what he is, says Sri Aurobindo, but in what he makes possible. An immortal soul is somewhere within him, even if seldom active in most people, while an eternal spirit overshadows him, even if obstructed from descent by the hard lid of his constructed personality. There is a great divine plan in motion, even if the evidence of the outer senses seems to contradict it.

Sri Aurobindo recognized that humankind is going through an evolutionary crisis. A stage has been reached in which the human mind has made tremendous strides on the one hand, but is left hopelessly inadequate to prevent its own extinction as a species. Meanwhile, as the Mother testified before her death in 1973, a consciousness higher than the human rational mind, what may be termed the Supermind, has recently been established in the fields of the Earth, and is active there. Our task now is to bring it down into cellular consciousness.

Evolution took a great leap forward with the origins of Life, and later with the emergence of Mind. We are now at the threshold of another leap forward, even more momentous, as we prepare for the emergence of the Supermind. Sri Aurobindo speaks about four stages of human evolution, which we will soon be starting to experience concurrently upon Earth. The first is �animal human,� our current species, a rational being possessing an individualized soul, but largely obstructed from contacting and merging with it.�Next is the �human human,� a species that is spontaneous- ly coming to birth under the influence of an ever-expanding supramental field, a being that is largely able to merge and live from soul-consciousness rather than mind-consciousness.

 

Thirdly is the �Overman,� who will still inhabit a dense physical body, but will be in possession of the Mind of Light, which is supramental consciousness that has begun to merge with cellular consciousness.

 

Finally, our ultimate goal as a species is the �Supramental Being,� divinity incarnated fully within the subtle realms of matter. This will be a race of what we could call �Descended Masters.� In this species, the unity of matter and spirit would be fully realized upon Earth.

The great work of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother was in bringing supramental consciousness down into the cellular consciousness of their own bodies. Since this is a unified consciousness, this meant that the supramental consciousness was simultaneously being brought into the consciousness fields of the Earth, awaiting the moment when it would flower into its full manifestation in collective matter.Whenever there is a �descent� there is corresponding resistance. Sri Aurobindo and the Mother speak of their experience with the four �Asuras,� essentially anti-divine forces, at work in the world today. There is the Asura of Darkness, the Asura of Suffering, The Asura of Falsehood, and the Asura of Death. These are the forces that are so outwardly apparent, and which seem to be in control of current global events. According to them the Asura of Darkness (Lucifer?) has gone through a transformation recently, and the Asura of Suffering has

returned to Source, and so only the latter two still remain to wreak havoc on Earth. Interestingly, they spoke of the Asura of Falsehood �channeling� through Hitler during World War II, and of their own intensive inner work in countering his influence. It would not be difficult to see how this same Asura may be influencing other world leaders in the current political sphere.

With the descent of this new vibratory consciousness all our old obsolete human structures will be demolished. However, Sri Aurobindo emphasized that although the changes will be enormous they would not be necessarily catastrophic. The power of Truth automatically erases Falsehood, and our world for the most part consists of Falsehood. Yet, the Supramental, he maintained, carried a power of harmonization which could overcome this resistance by means other than dramatic struggle and violence. The Asuras will eventually be absorbed into their original emanations of Light, Life, Beauty, and Truth. It may be interesting to speculate, with all the violence in the world today, the destruction we might have experienced if not for this power of harmonization!

When does all this happen? Sri Aurobindo and the Mother believed that the world stage was set for this quantum descent, and that it was quite imminent. The Mother said in 1968 that the supramental transformation was a certainty now, and that it would come about with a minimum of destruction, �although this minimum is still considerable.� She said that the year 2000 would be a turning point.

 

This was a very interesting read and matches what Narasimhaji says about changes coming in the world.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

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