Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Namaste Narasmihaji Recently I had gone home for a few days and had the good fortune of being able to spend a lot of time at the Kalighat temple. There I heard the priests reciting mantras of Dakshina Kali. What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhardra Kali? Both these forms are prayed across west bengal but I can't find out the difference between these two forms.. -Regards Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Namaste Rajarshiji, As you may know, Kali is time personified and deals with death and destruction, which is what the concept of time does. What is future today becomes present tomorrow and past later. Hence the concept of time is inevitably synonymous with death. Dakshina also means south-facing or the realm of death, and Bhadra means auspicious, as the great Mother Kali through death reminds of the truth of the ephemeral nature of our life/lives and grants us moksha, thereby relieving us temporary death and hence fear! Since the concept of death has to be dealt by tantric practitioners on their path, they are first introduced to Kali, who is the first among the Dasa (10) Mahavidyas. Hope this helps. Thanks Narayan , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Namaste Narasmihaji > > > > Recently I had gone home for a few days and had the good fortune of being able to spend a lot of time at the Kalighat temple. > > > There I heard the priests reciting mantras of Dakshina Kali. > > What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhardra Kali? > > Both these forms are prayed across west bengal but I can't find out the difference between these two forms.. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Narayanji Thank you for your reply. I had missed out on Dakshina means south. And Bhardra means auspicious. I found out from a local book that She is named Dakshina because even Yama - the God of death - gets scared of Her. One more query I have is about the difference between Ma Kali and Ma Chandi. How are they different? With my little understanding, I know Chandi is a fierce deity of war, then what is Kali? Thanks for your time. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 17/5/09, naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote: naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer Re: What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhadra Kali Date: Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 11:21 PM Namaste Rajarshiji,As you may know, Kali is time personified and deals with death and destruction, which is what the concept of time does. What is future today becomes present tomorrow and past later. Hence the concept of time is inevitably synonymous with death.Dakshina also means south-facing or the realm of death, and Bhadra means auspicious, as the great Mother Kali through death reminds of the truth of the ephemeral nature of our life/lives and grants us moksha, thereby relieving us temporary death and hence fear!Since the concept of death has to be dealt by tantric practitioners on their path, they are first introduced to Kali, who is the first among the Dasa (10) Mahavidyas.Hope this helps.ThanksNarayan@ . com, "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> Namaste Narasmihaji> > > > Recently I had gone home for a few days and had the good fortune of being able to spend a lot of time at the Kalighat temple.> > > There I heard the priests reciting mantras of Dakshina Kali. > > What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhardra Kali?> > Both these forms are prayed across west bengal but I can't find out the difference between these two forms..> > -Regards> Rajarshi> Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.* Click here!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Namaste Rajarshiji, Chandi is Goddess Durga and a confluence of the energies of Majakali, Mahalakshmi & MahaSaraswathi. Regards Narayan , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Narayanji > > Thank you for your reply. I had missed out on Dakshina means south. And Bhardra means > auspicious. > > I found out from a local book that She is named Dakshina because even Yama - the God of death - gets scared of Her. > > One more query I have is about the difference between Ma Kali and Ma Chandi. How are they different? > > With my little understanding, I know Chandi is a fierce deity of war, then what is Kali? > > Thanks for your time. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > --- On Sun, 17/5/09, naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote: > > > naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer > Re: What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhadra Kali > > Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 11:21 PM > > Namaste Rajarshiji, > > As you may know, Kali is time personified and deals with death and destruction, which is what the concept of time does. What is future today becomes present tomorrow and past later. Hence the concept of time is inevitably synonymous with death. > > Dakshina also means south-facing or the realm of death, and Bhadra means auspicious, as the great Mother Kali through death reminds of the truth of the ephemeral nature of our life/lives and grants us moksha, thereby relieving us temporary death and hence fear! > > Since the concept of death has to be dealt by tantric practitioners on their path, they are first introduced to Kali, who is the first among the Dasa (10) Mahavidyas. > > Hope this helps. > > Thanks > Narayan > > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Narasmihaji > > > > > > > > Recently I had gone home for a few days and had the good fortune of being able to spend a lot of time at the Kalighat temple. > > > > > > There I heard the priests reciting mantras of Dakshina Kali. > > > > What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhardra Kali? > > > > Both these forms are prayed across west bengal but I can't find out the difference between these two forms.. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dear Narayan, Nice understanding! You should write more often. * * * Kaala is time personified. Kaali is the shakti of Kaala, i.e. Kaali is the animator of Time. It is She who causes time to flow (or even to stop). The concept of time and its flow are behind the entire delusion of duality. As per vedanta, there is nothing called past or future, here or there, I or you. There is Brahman at all places and all times. The objectification of Brahman into various objects is possible due to the play of Kaala and Kaali and the creation of a concept of " time " . One absorbed in non-dual Brahman wihtout any concept of time or objectification is immortal. Time, the great devourer, catches up with anyone stuck in duality, sooner or later. BTW, Kaala and Kaali are inseparable. Without the " flow of time " , there is no " time " itself. Similarly, without time, there cannot be a flow of time. Thus, time and its flow exist together and cannot exist without each other. * * * Dakshina not only means south, but it also means right. Tantra texts talk of Dakshina Kaali and Vaama Kaali. Dakshina Kaali is propitiated using dakshinaachaaraa (right-handed practice), while Vaama Kaali is propitiated using vaamaachaara (left-handed practice). The former is worshipped in temples, while the latter is worshipped in shmashaana (cemetaries). The latter is also known as Shmashaana Kaali. Symbolically these two versions are depicted with right foot and left foot forward, respectively. Right side is associated with Pingala nadi, Surya (Sun) and devatas (gods). It is also linked to the left brain and structured thinking. Left side is associated with Ida nadi, Chandra (Moon) and pitris (manes). It is also linked to the right brain and emotional and intuitive thinking. Dakshinaachaara attempts to reach the supreme using a structured approach. One does not try to destroy layers of deep conditioning of the mind in one shot and takes an orderly and structured approach. It is appropriate for temples (places of public spiritual practice) and for general public too. Vaamaachaara (left-handed path), on the other hand, attempts to nuke the layers of deep conditioning of the mind by throwing the mind into dark alleys that force the mind to realize the non-distinction between light and darkness. Of course, there is a chance one will fall and settle down in the darkness. The tools and imagery used by dakshinaachaara followers worshipping Dakshina Kaali and those used by vaamaachaara followers worshipping Shmashaana Kaali may be different, but they are searching for the same primordial energy that results in the flow of time. Thus, Dakshina Kaali and Shmashaana Kaali are not really different and merely represent different paths to obtain the same realization. Different forms of Kaali represent different paths to arrive at the same srealization. * * * Bhadra means auspicious. While one aspect of Time is that Time devours all and brings the end of every object in the field of duality, the flow of Time does more. Flow of time brings the fruits of various karmas, brings maturity and transformation in various objects of the field of duality and brings them closer to liberation. When one ponders the primordial energy that results in the flow of time, from these angles, this path is represented by Bhadra Kaali. She is also worshipped in temples like Dakshina Kaali. * * * Mahaa Kaali, Mahaa Lakshmi and Mahaa Saraswati are three parts of the very initial root primordial energy that is referred to as the golden-hued " Mahaa Lakshmi " in Saptashati rahasya. This very initial root primordial energy Mahaa Lakshmi divides Herself into 3 parts - Mahaa Kaali, Mahaa Lakshmi and Mahaa Saraswati, 3 distinct aspects of the primordial energy. These 3 energies create 3 couples - Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and their consorts. We may see this very initial root primordial energy " Mahaa Lakshmi " as the expression of the supreme cosmic being, as the energy that makes the supreme cosmic being be, want, think and know. Chandi represents a fierce energy that makes one battle and overcome various weaknesses and conditioning of the mind and reach this very initial root primordial energy. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ---- naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote: > Namaste Rajarshiji, > > Chandi is Goddess Durga and a confluence of the energies of Majakali, Mahalakshmi & MahaSaraswathi. > > Regards > Narayan > > , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > > > Dear Narayanji > > > > Thank you for your reply. I had missed out on Dakshina means south. And Bhardra means > > auspicious. > > > > I found out from a local book that She is named Dakshina because even Yama - the God of death - gets scared of Her. > > > > One more query I have is about the difference between Ma Kali and Ma Chandi. How are they different? > > > > With my little understanding, I know Chandi is a fierce deity of war, then what is Kali? > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra > > > > --- On Sun, 17/5/09, naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer wrote: > > > > naaraayana_iyer <narayan.iyer > > Re: What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhadra Kali > > > > Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 11:21 PM > > > > Namaste Rajarshiji, > > > > As you may know, Kali is time personified and deals with death and destruction, which is what the concept of time does. What is future today becomes present tomorrow and past later. Hence the concept of time is inevitably synonymous with death. > > > > Dakshina also means south-facing or the realm of death, and Bhadra means auspicious, as the great Mother Kali through death reminds of the truth of the ephemeral nature of our life/lives and grants us moksha, thereby relieving us temporary death and hence fear! > > > > Since the concept of death has to be dealt by tantric practitioners on their path, they are first introduced to Kali, who is the first among the Dasa (10) Mahavidyas. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Thanks > > Narayan > > > > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Narasmihaji > > > > > > Recently I had gone home for a few days and had the good fortune of being able to spend a lot of time at the Kalighat temple. > > > > > > There I heard the priests reciting mantras of Dakshina Kali. > > > > > > What is the difference between Dakshina Kali and Bhardra Kali? > > > > > > Both these forms are prayed across west bengal but I can't find out the difference between these two forms.. > > > > > > -Regards > > > Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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