Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Namaste I am quoting an analysis done by a very learned individual, on some aspects of the Vedic times. One my find it an interest read. The possible extent of India in the past. " The earth's landmass to the extent known to Indians was quite extended and was known interchangeably as their own country or the world... 1. Geography: The political boundary of India was immaterial. The whole landmass known to Indians was known both as " Bharata " and " Vishwa " interchangeably, as per the scriptures. This mythology is maintained in history insofar as playwright Kalidasa's works are concerned. There are no movement restrictions imposed by the army of any king in the journey of Shakuntala or, much later, of Arjuna. Even mudraas (currency) are the same everywhere they go. If not, they must be fully convertible at whatever exchange rates were prevalent at that time (I did not read about such convertibility though). • 2. Moral science: When Krishna tells Arjuna, " & #2360; & #2381; & #2357; & #2343; & #2352; & #2381; & #2350; & #2375; & #2344; & #2367; & #2343; & #2344; & #2350; & #2381; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2375; & #2351; & #2307; & #2346; & #2352; & #2343; & #2352; & #2381; & #2350; & #2379; & #2349; & #2351; & #2366; & #2357; & #2361; & #2307; (it's better to die doing one's own duty than attempt the job of somebody else, which is fraught with danger), " does he mean non-Kshatriyas are non-Hindus? No, clearly " dharma " means duty here -- in Arjuna's case, Kshatriya-specific duty (that to fight the enemy) -- not religion. • 3. Religion: Back to Kalidasa, religion-wise, Gandhaara and Siam have been depicted to have the same gods and goddesses as today's India. The corollary: there was no other religion to talk about. • 4. Sociology: Before casteist Manu, the dos and don'ts were not strictly defined. Yet certain things were taboo and, by that definition, irreligious. Cannibalism, for example. I have mentioned Kaliya Yaman already. The Mahabharata says many people in his kingdom were cannibals. Which means the Vedas couldn't possibly have been followed in the region that is now known as the Middle East. However, you cannot call the citizens of another country criminals because they do not follow your country's laws. That means, the Vedic laws applied to the Middle East, but the people living in that region didn't give it a damn. Thus, that region was a renegade province and not a foreign country. • 5. Linguistics: (a) If you study Sanskrit grammar you will appreciate that it's far more detailed than Latin. The eight wibhaktis and several exceptions* in each are somewhat paralleled only by seven such classifications in Arabic. You may note that details in grammar diminish gradually as we move westward. Arabic nominative, genitive and accusative are explicit and varied whereas ablative, locative, dative and instrumental cases are only implied, not categorised as such. Sambodhana (address) is not considered a case in Arabic. Greek has less details and some flaws in categorisation of cases. Latin has the least details. (b) The dwiwachana (dual) number in between singular and plural was prevalent in Ancient Greek (more similarities in Indo-European languages: http://www.friesian.com/cognates.htm). Arabic is Afro-Asiatic, not Indo-European, but it has the dual number too. In Africa, some modern dialects have the dual number, but in ancient times, there was no language contemporary as well as literary in Africa corresponding to Arabic in Asia. And only advanced languages have the dual. So how come grammarians in the stretch between India and Greece through Arabia made rules that were so similar? And why did the details disappear or reduce drastically in Latin? Why are roots less scientifically graded in Greek? No philologist has the answer. They only guesstimate Sanskrit, Greek and Latin may have had a common root**. * {a classic example of exceptions within the same wibhaktis in Sanskrit: It's & #2309; & #2361; & #2306; & #2350; & #2350; & #2350; & #2367; & #2340; & #2381; & #2352; & #2360; & #2381; & #2351; & #2327; & #2371; & #2361; & #2375; & #2327; & #2330; & #2381; & #2331; & #2366; & #2350; & #2367; (I'm going to my friend's place), but & #2348; & #2369; & #2342; & #2381; & #2343; & #2350; & #2381; & #2358; & #2352; & #2339; & #2350; & #2381; & #2327; & #2330; & #2381; & #2331; & #2366; & #2350; & #2367; (lit.: I'm going in the path/to the shelter of the Buddha; in proper English: I'm seeking the Buddha/embracing Buddhism) and not & #2348; & #2369; & #2342; & #2381; & #2343; & #2360; & #2381; & #2351; & #2358; & #2352; & #2339; & #2375; & #2327; & #2330; & #2381; & #2331; & #2366; & #2350; & #2367;! Note that " of " – `-sya' in the first instance but `-am' in the second; " to " – `-e' in the first but `-am' in the second} Therefore the four classical languages show similar thought processes. ** The " common root " of Sanskrit, Greek and Latin can be researched further from the papers of Asiatic Society, Park Street, Kolkata. They do not claim Arabic to have the same root. Neither do I. I am simply intrigued by the similar studies of cases in Sanskrit and Arabic. All the above together indicate that the then world as known to Indians behaved like a singular country defined by a single culture, albeit the influence of India reduced as we moved westward. " -Regards Rajarshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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