Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 BandhuO, Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without break. That is really something ! really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies within. " Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll " jay shri rama utpal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Namaste Good information, May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat, Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram. They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years. When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes. People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience. Best Regards Mitesh , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > BandhuO, > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without > break. > > That is really something ! > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies > within. > > " Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll " > > jay shri rama > > utpal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Dear Mitesh, These are good informations which gives us lot of hopes for future of Dharma in general and Sanatan Dharma in perticular. Let us also join in doing Sadhana as per our best of capabilities and try to reduce our Ahamkaar by each passing month. let us get over our little minds and start hearing call of Big mind, which will help us individually & collectively, to overcome negativity such as unnecessary fights of words, pride of everything, anger, selfishness, haughtyness, endless desires, greedy ness and all the other armies of Shumbh and Nishumbha. Warm Regards, Utpal Warm Regards, Utpal , " m540i98 " <m540i98 wrote: > > Namaste > > Good information, > > May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat, > Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram. > > They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years. > > When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes. > People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience. > > Best Regards > Mitesh > > > , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > BandhuO, > > > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: > > > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which > > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without > > break. > > > > That is really something ! > > > > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are > > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies > > within. > > > > " Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l > > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll " > > > > jay shri rama > > > > utpal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Namaste Great information on this thread. The Rama The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sat, 7/3/09, m540i98 <m540i98 wrote: m540i98 <m540i98 Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 10:19 PM NamasteGood information,May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat,Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram.They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years.When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes.People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience.Best RegardsMitesh, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@ ...> wrote:>> BandhuO,> > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information:> > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which> 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without> break.> > That is really something !> > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are> really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies> within.> > "Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l> Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll"> > jay shri rama> > utpal> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Namaste Great information. Just adding to this, in Benaras there is an ashram where a dhuni has been burning for more than 500 years now continuously. The deity invoked is Agni-Rudra. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sat, 7/3/09, m540i98 <m540i98 wrote: m540i98 <m540i98 Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 10:19 PM NamasteGood information,May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat,Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram.They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years.When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes.People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience.Best RegardsMitesh, "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@ ...> wrote:>> BandhuO,> > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information:> > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which> 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without> break.> > That is really something !> > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are> really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies> within.> > "Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l> Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll"> > jay shri rama> > utpal> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Dear Utpal,I would be happy if you could explain and elaborate about armies of shumbh and vishumbha.regardsrajesh--- On Sat, 7/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote:utpal pathak <vedic_pathak Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! Date: Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 12:41 PM Dear Mitesh, These are good informations which gives us lot of hopes for future of Dharma in general and Sanatan Dharma in perticular. Let us also join in doing Sadhana as per our best of capabilities and try to reduce our Ahamkaar by each passing month. let us get over our little minds and start hearing call of Big mind, which will help us individually & collectively, to overcome negativity such as unnecessary fights of words, pride of everything, anger, selfishness, haughtyness, endless desires, greedy ness and all the other armies of Shumbh and Nishumbha. Warm Regards, Utpal Warm Regards, Utpal , "m540i98" <m540i98 > wrote: > > Namaste > > Good information, > > May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat, > Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram. > > They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years. > > When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes. > People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience. > > Best Regards > Mitesh > > > , "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@ > wrote: > > > > BandhuO, > > > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: > > > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which > > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without > > break. > > > > That is really something ! > > > > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are > > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies > > within. > > > > "Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l > > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll" > > > > jay shri rama > > > > utpal > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Dear Raju, Few Ramblings as they say! Co-relation of Demons described in Durga Saptashati (Chandi Paath) Shumbha -> Ahamkaar (I ness - Ego) Nishumbha -> Aasakti (Attachment - Which hangs on Ego) Both are brothers who are inseparable. both are fond of each other so much that they can not live without each other. I ness and Attachment are the same. When Chandika attacks Shumbha he becomes unconscious. at that time Nishumbha attacks her. It indicates that the final war for realisation is with our Ahamkaar & Aasakti (I ness & Attachment -me, my, mine). it may seem that Ahamkaar is dead but it can be a deception. it may have been hiding (like Shumbha became unconsious for some time). Aasakti (Nishumbha) is ready to attack even if I ness is temporarily sleeping. When mother completely destroys Nishumbha (Aasakti), Shumbha is furious and even challenges the mother with the abuses such as Dushte, Anyasa Balamaashrita. he is furious because he lost his brother which is like a soul mate. Inseparable. once aasakti is finished, Ahamkaar becomes weaker and then mother finally mounts concluding attack on the demon Shumbha to finally liberate the soul. *** Raktabeeja -> Vaasanaas (Desires, mental conditioning) Raktabeeja is veru dangerous and powerful. He has a capacity to multiply and multiply and feel the entire universe. Our desires are also like that. they multiply in no time. they are never finshes even if we satisfy them. they keep increasing and multiplying. The most powerful demon after Shumbha & Nishumbha is Raktabeeja. it is so powerful that all the various forms of mothers (such as Indriyaani, Naarasimhi, Vaaraahi, Maaheshwari, Brahmaani) attack him simultaneously but still he is not finished. The multiplication ability of his, ceates danger for the whole world and Devas becomes worried (like Good virutes feel scared of danger from endless desires, like saintly people are always at danger from onslaught of materialistic and wicked people). seeing that Devas are really worried, Chandika and Chaamunda both attack him and destroy him. Chaamunda (Kali) actually sucks the blood of the demon and destroys all the multiplied demons instantly to the point that Raktabeeja becomes bloodless and then detroyed completely. Hence Kaali has capacity to destroy all the vaasanaas and the beeja of vaasanaas. *** Chanda and Munda are like Greed & Appeasement. they both fan the Ego (Shumbha). they lure him to go for possesing everything in the world. They successfully trigger Ahamkaar and propell us to go for the wrong things/desires/possession. *** DhumraLochan -> Krodha (Anger/fury which is unmindful but very weak) Dhumralochan (Krodha) is aggressive but has feet of clay, that is why Durga destroys Dhumralochan with just as 'Hunkaar' (just by a word 'Hum') and the chapter no.6 is over in few verses. **** confused! not your fault. i couldn't explain it properly Warm Regards, Utpal , rajesh rajgor <rajesh_rajgor2003 wrote: > > Dear Utpal, > > > I would be happy if you could explain and elaborate about armies of shumbh and vishumbha. > > regards > > rajesh > > --- On Sat, 7/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote: > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak > Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 12:41 PM > > > > > > Dear Mitesh, > > > > These are good informations which gives us lot of hopes for future of Dharma in general and Sanatan Dharma in perticular. > > > > Let us also join in doing Sadhana as per our best of capabilities and try to reduce our Ahamkaar by each passing month. let us get over our little minds and start hearing call of Big mind, which will help us individually & collectively, to overcome negativity such as unnecessary fights of words, pride of everything, anger, selfishness, haughtyness, endless desires, greedy ness and all the other armies of Shumbh and Nishumbha. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > , " m540i98 " <m540i98@ > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Good information, > > > > > > May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat, > > > Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram. > > > > > > They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years.. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years. > > > > > > When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes. > > > People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > BandhuO, > > > > > > > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: > > > > > > > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which > > > > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without > > > > break. > > > > > > > > That is really something ! > > > > > > > > > > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are > > > > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies > > > > within. > > > > > > > > " Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l > > > > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll " > > > > > > > > jay shri rama > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Dear Utpal, I am not confused.. they way in which you have explained, anybody who has keen interest to understand it.. would definitely understand it.. i understood the shumbh(ego), vishumbh(attachment), raktabeeja(vasana), dhumralochan(Krodh).. but the problem is not to get dominated in our life by all these..BADHU SAMJAAY CHHE PAN ENATHI DUR JAVANA PRAYATNAMA NISHFAL THAVAAY CHHE.. today when i was doing homam in the morning.. my state of mind was not at all good.. and hence i have not got good feelings which i normally use to get.. i donot know why? but as narsimhaji said.. even if homam done with bad vasanas, bad atmoshphere also.. it will in turn help the sadhakas only.. i am just sticking to it.. and you know utpal.. if the feeligns after homam is not good.. this feeling will continue throughout the day and will affect my mood and my efficiency too..i did homam in the morning around 7 am.. now i am in my office and reading the mail and repling this to you.. and my mood is still like this..This kind of situations occurs frequently in my life.. one day i feel very good and other day bad.. well this frequency had been reduced after doing homam.. but still it is there.. what should i do to come out of it? i know i am encroaching upon your valuable time.. but .. i am sure you would help me.. happy holi to you and all the members of this group.. regards rajesh --- On Mon, 9/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote: utpal pathak <vedic_pathak Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 4:48 PM Dear Raju,Few Ramblings as they say!Co-relation of Demons described in Durga Saptashati (Chandi Paath)Shumbha -> Ahamkaar (I ness - Ego)Nishumbha -> Aasakti (Attachment - Which hangs on Ego)Both are brothers who are inseparable. both are fond of each other so much that they can not live without each other. I ness and Attachment are the same.When Chandika attacks Shumbha he becomes unconscious.. at that time Nishumbha attacks her. It indicates that the final war for realisation is with our Ahamkaar & Aasakti (I ness & Attachment -me, my, mine). it may seem that Ahamkaar is dead but it can be a deception. it may have been hiding (like Shumbha became unconsious for some time). Aasakti (Nishumbha) is ready to attack even if I ness is temporarily sleeping.When mother completely destroys Nishumbha (Aasakti), Shumbha is furious and even challenges the mother with the abuses such as Dushte, Anyasa Balamaashrita. he is furious because he lost his brother which is like a soul mate. Inseparable. once aasakti is finished, Ahamkaar becomes weaker and then mother finally mounts concluding attack on the demon Shumbha to finally liberate the soul. ***Raktabeeja -> Vaasanaas (Desires, mental conditioning)Raktabeeja is veru dangerous and powerful. He has a capacity to multiply and multiply and feel the entire universe. Our desires are also like that. they multiply in no time. they are never finshes even if we satisfy them. they keep increasing and multiplying.The most powerful demon after Shumbha & Nishumbha is Raktabeeja. it is so powerful that all the various forms of mothers (such as Indriyaani, Naarasimhi, Vaaraahi, Maaheshwari, Brahmaani) attack him simultaneously but still he is not finished. The multiplication ability of his, ceates danger for the whole world and Devas becomes worried (like Good virutes feel scared of danger from endless desires, like saintly people are always at danger from onslaught of materialistic and wicked people).seeing that Devas are really worried, Chandika and Chaamunda both attack him and destroy him. Chaamunda (Kali) actually sucks the blood of the demon and destroys all the multiplied demons instantly to the point that Raktabeeja becomes bloodless and then detroyed completely. Hence Kaali has capacity to destroy all the vaasanaas and the beeja of vaasanaas.***Chanda and Munda are like Greed & Appeasement. they both fan the Ego (Shumbha). they lure him to go for possesing everything in the world.They successfully trigger Ahamkaar and propell us to go for the wrong things/desires/ possession.***DhumraLochan -> Krodha (Anger/fury which is unmindful but very weak)Dhumralochan (Krodha) is aggressive but has feet of clay, that is why Durga destroys Dhumralochan with just as 'Hunkaar' (just by a word 'Hum') and the chapter no.6 is over in few verses.****confused! not your fault. i couldn't explain it properly :)Warm Regards,Utpal, rajesh rajgor <rajesh_rajgor2003@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Utpal,> > > I would be happy if you could explain and elaborate about armies of shumbh and vishumbha.> > regards> > rajesh> > --- On Sat, 7/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@ ...> wrote:> > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@ ...>> Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!!> > Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 12:41 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mitesh,> > > > These are good informations which gives us lot of hopes for future of Dharma in general and Sanatan Dharma in perticular.> > > > Let us also join in doing Sadhana as per our best of capabilities and try to reduce our Ahamkaar by each passing month. let us get over our little minds and start hearing call of Big mind, which will help us individually & collectively, to overcome negativity such as unnecessary fights of words, pride of everything, anger, selfishness, haughtyness, endless desires, greedy ness and all the other armies of Shumbh and Nishumbha.> > > > Warm Regards,> > > > Utpal > > > > Warm Regards,> > > > Utpal> > > > , "m540i98" <m540i98@ > wrote:> > >> > > Namaste> > > > > > Good information,> > > > > > May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat,> > > Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram.> > > > > > They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years.. I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years.> > > > > > When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes.> > > People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience.> > > > > > Best Regards> > > Mitesh> > > > > > > > > , "utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > BandhuO,> > > > > > > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information:> > > > > > > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which> > > > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without> > > > break.> > > > > > > > That is really something !> > > > > > > > > > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are> > > > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies> > > > within.> > > > > > > > "Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l> > > > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll"> > > > > > > > jay shri rama> > > > > > > > utpal> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Dear Rajgor bhai, There is local dialog in Mumbai for our situation - " Abhi Homam shuru karake jumma-jumma Char din huen hai " Dear, when you or i or anybody else, does the homam consistently for say a year or two and at the same time ciritically looking and correcting thought/feeling/reaction all the way, we stand some chance of having some recognizable transformation. performing homam or any saadhana for few days and then becoming like 'brooding hen over china egg over our shortcomings and different negative emotions will not do any good to us. aankh bandh karake chup chap Homa karate raho. Homam ka anand lete raho. saal bhar ke baad hisab karenge;) Raju, contemplation is also needed. we may need to work on our attitude, observe them, recognize the fault in our thinking and behavior and struggle to rectify those. let us keep homam continuous at the same time correction in our attitude also continuous and then we'll take a stock of things after a year to see if there is some real progress or not. by the way, please read following two messages which explains lot of deeper meaning of stories of Chandi paath. /message/1 /message/530 Warm Regards, Utpal , rajesh rajgor <rajesh_rajgor2003 wrote: > > > Dear Utpal, > > I am not confused.. they way in which you have explained, anybody who has keen interest to understand it.. would definitely understand it.. > > i understood the shumbh(ego), vishumbh(attachment), raktabeeja(vasana), dhumralochan(Krodh).. but the problem is not to get dominated in our life by all these..BADHU SAMJAAY CHHE PAN ENATHI DUR JAVANA PRAYATNAMA NISHFAL THAVAAY CHHE.. > > today when i was doing homam in the morning.. my state of mind was not at all good.. and hence i have not got good feelings which i normally use to get.. i donot know why? but as narsimhaji said.. even if homam done with bad vasanas, bad atmoshphere also.. it will in turn help the sadhakas only.. i am just sticking to it.. and you know utpal.. if the feeligns after homam is not good.. this feeling will continue throughout the day and will affect my mood and my efficiency too..i did homam in the morning around 7 am.. now i am in my office and reading the mail and repling this to you.. and my mood is still like this..This kind of situations occurs frequently in my life.. one day i feel very good and other day bad.. well this frequency had been reduced after doing homam.. but still it is there.. what should i do to come out of it? > > i know i am encroaching upon your valuable time.. but .. i am sure you would help me.. > > happy holi to you and all the members of this group.. > > regards > > rajesh > > > > > --- On Mon, 9/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote: > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak > Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! > > Monday, 9 March, 2009, 4:48 PM Dear Raju, > > Few Ramblings as they say! > > Co-relation of Demons described in Durga Saptashati (Chandi Paath) > > Shumbha -> Ahamkaar (I ness - Ego) > Nishumbha -> Aasakti (Attachment - Which hangs on Ego) > > Both are brothers who are inseparable. both are fond of each other so much that they can not live without each other. I ness and Attachment are the same. > > When Chandika attacks Shumbha he becomes unconscious. at that time Nishumbha attacks her. It indicates that the final war for realisation is with our Ahamkaar & Aasakti (I ness & Attachment -me, my, mine). it may seem that Ahamkaar is dead but it can be a deception. it may have been hiding (like Shumbha became unconsious for some time). Aasakti (Nishumbha) is ready to attack even if I ness is temporarily sleeping. > > When mother completely destroys Nishumbha (Aasakti), Shumbha is furious and even challenges the mother with the abuses such as Dushte, Anyasa Balamaashrita. he is furious because he lost his brother which is like a soul mate. Inseparable. once aasakti is finished, Ahamkaar becomes weaker and then mother finally mounts concluding attack on the demon Shumbha to finally liberate the soul. > > *** > Raktabeeja -> Vaasanaas (Desires, mental conditioning) > > Raktabeeja is veru dangerous and powerful. He has a capacity to multiply and multiply and feel the entire universe. Our desires are also like that. they multiply in no time. they are never finshes even if we satisfy them. they keep increasing and multiplying. > > The most powerful demon after Shumbha & Nishumbha is Raktabeeja. it is so powerful that all the various forms of mothers (such as Indriyaani, Naarasimhi, Vaaraahi, Maaheshwari, Brahmaani) attack him simultaneously but still he is not finished. The multiplication ability of his, ceates danger for the whole world and Devas becomes worried (like Good virutes feel scared of danger from endless desires, like saintly people are always at danger from onslaught of materialistic and wicked people). > > seeing that Devas are really worried, Chandika and Chaamunda both attack him and destroy him. Chaamunda (Kali) actually sucks the blood of the demon and destroys all the multiplied demons instantly to the point that Raktabeeja becomes bloodless and then detroyed completely. Hence Kaali has capacity to destroy all the vaasanaas and the beeja of vaasanaas. > > *** > Chanda and Munda are like Greed & Appeasement. they both fan the Ego (Shumbha). they lure him to go for possesing everything in the world. > They successfully trigger Ahamkaar and propell us to go for the wrong things/desires/ possession. > *** > DhumraLochan -> Krodha (Anger/fury which is unmindful but very weak) > > Dhumralochan (Krodha) is aggressive but has feet of clay, that is why Durga destroys Dhumralochan with just as 'Hunkaar' (just by a word 'Hum') and the chapter no.6 is over in few verses. > **** > > confused! not your fault. i couldn't explain it properly > > Warm Regards, > > Utpal > > > , rajesh rajgor <rajesh_rajgor2003@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Utpal, > > > > > > I would be happy if you could explain and elaborate about armies of shumbh and vishumbha. > > > > regards > > > > rajesh > > > > --- On Sat, 7/3/09, utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@ ...> wrote: > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > Re: Reason to Smile for Sanatan Dharma !!! > > > > Saturday, 7 March, 2009, 12:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mitesh, > > > > > > > > These are good informations which gives us lot of hopes for future of Dharma in general and Sanatan Dharma in perticular. > > > > > > > > Let us also join in doing Sadhana as per our best of capabilities and try to reduce our Ahamkaar by each passing month. let us get over our little minds and start hearing call of Big mind, which will help us individually & collectively, to overcome negativity such as unnecessary fights of words, pride of everything, anger, selfishness, haughtyness, endless desires, greedy ness and all the other armies of Shumbh and Nishumbha. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > , " m540i98 " <m540i98@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > Good information, > > > > > > > > > > May I add one more place, that is located in Rajkot Gujarat, > > > > > Ranchod Vadi, the Ranchoddasji Maharaj's ashram. > > > > > > > > > > They are also doing 24 by 7 uninterrupted ram dhun for many many years... I do not remember the exact years but I may not be surprised if it is also 25 plus years. > > > > > > > > > > When visit India, I visit this place and do raamdhun for few minutes. > > > > > People in staying in rajkot are lucy, they can swing by the place all the time at their convinience. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > BandhuO, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday, one elderly person informed one Highly inspiring information: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one temple in Jamanagar (Probably main deirty is Shri Rama) in which > > > > > > 'RamaDhun' is contineously going on for more than 20 years and 24 hours without > > > > > > break. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is really something ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really a reason to smile when we hear such thing. People of Sanatan Dharma are > > > > > > really going for Jehad -not a fake one but real Jehad which detroys enemies > > > > > > within. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Shri Ramachandra krupalu bhaju man Haran bhav bhay daarunam l > > > > > > Nav kanj lochan kanj mukh kar kanj pad kanjaarunam ll " > > > > > > > > > > > > jay shri rama > > > > > > > > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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