Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Namaste, Mantras work beyond the physical sound energy level and work at the mind level. Mind connects the material and non-material realms of experience. So all experiences of mind cannot be studied by physics or modern science in general. I want to narrate a small incident. At this time, the person in question prefers not to be explicitly identified. * * * One man was sleeping oneday. In the middle of the night, he woke up. When he was still on the bed and partially awake, his shakti rose. In other words, his self-awareness got refined. He first perceived a tremendous bolt of electricity going up in his back. Then, in a split second, his perception of that electricity changed from "shakti inside me" to "I inside shakti". His changed perception was that there was a tremendous amount of shakti that was surging up like an ocean wave and encompassing everything that was there and that he was a very tiny particle in that tremendous wave. Moreover, he also "heard" a specific beejaakshara being chanted together by millions of people, who were all tiny particles in that wave. That wave reverberated with the sound of that beejaakshara and he perceived that he too was chanting that beejaakshara along with all. His mind was filled with that sound and a kind of bliss. His self-awareness was that of a tiny particle filled with that sound and joy. He was in that state for a while. Suddenly a thought that can be loosely expressed as "I am on the bed in a room. How am I hearing all this? Are there people in the room" came to his mind. That thought disturbed the state of his mind and his shakti came down. In other words, he returned to the regular level of self-awareness and again perceived that he was a body lying on a bed in a room. The bliss was gone and mind was again filled with hundreds of thoughts as usual. He mentioned this incident a few days later to his spiritual guru, who lived thousands of miles away and a few hours ahead of him. When this happened, it was the middle of the night for him and morning for his guru. When he mentioned the incident and said that he heard the sound of a beejaakshara reverberating in the wave in which he was a small particle, his guru said he knew it and also mentioned the specific beejaakshara and asked "that is what you heard, right?" That was indeed correct. When he confirmed, his guru shed some light: "I was at that time meditating with that beejaakshara. So and so deity came and filled my consciousness. I then went into samadhi. Some people close to me may also have experienced that deity at that time. But we should realize that this is all Her play and we are just nimittas. What she does and why she does, she knows and we do not. We are just dummies observing what comes our way. We neither make anything happen nor should we desire anything to happen. Just be and observe. Do not be attracted or repelled by anything." * * * If you are talking about the mystical experiences perceived by a single mind, the possibility of hallucination cannot be discounted. However, when two people independently experienced something similar and one of them knew that the other one experienced it, it shows that there is something here. It shows that the ultimate Reality is *beyond* the reality that can be perceived by senses and studied by modern science. Mind is the connection between the material and non-material worlds. Ego, the sense of "I", is what blocks one from higher things. Notions like "I am the body", "I should be safe", "I should be happy" etc block one and limit one's self-awareness to a gross body and its gross external senses. When the self-awareness changes to that of a tiny particle at His/Her feet, it is a lot more blissful state to be in. But, we are kept away from that because our self-awareness is different and more gross and we cannot let it go! We just hang on to an undesirable self-awareness. * * * I want to make one thing clear. When I write about any mystical experiences, there is a chance of influencing someone wrongly. Luckily for me, the first thing my guru did with me was to de-emphasize the value of mystical experiences. I was prepared by him to look at them as just any other experiences in the material world. They really are. When one goes on a road, one sees nice scenery on the side. Some scenery on a normal road may be accessible to everyone and some scenery at a high altitude hill road may be seen by very few. But the bottomline is that both are sceneries and one should learn to just see it, appreciate it and move on. If attachment is built with a scenery or one becomes proud of oneself for having seen a scenery, it is foolish. Such feelings can distract one from the final goal and slow down one's journey. Nothing in the 14 worlds needs to be desired or feared. Just observe what comes your way and continue your journey. A mystical experience can promote pride in one ("I am good and I got this", "I did good sadhana and so I got this", "I deserve this" etc) or attachment or possessiveness or a sense of entitlement. That can trap one and slow down spiritual progress. The ultimate goal of spiritual sadhana is to kill pride and overcome ego completely. That should be remembered at all times. I know that I mention this again and again. But internet and e-archives are a nonlinear medium. I want to make this key point in every relevant mail. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Narasimhaji,Pranaam, I dont have any words to express my gratitude toward the information you have shared. It is simply superb and mind-blowing. JituOn Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Namaste, Mantras work beyond the physical sound energy level and work at the mind level. Mind connects the material and non-material realms of experience. So all experiences of mind cannot be studied by physics or modern science in general. I want to narrate a small incident. At this time, the person in question prefers not to be explicitly identified. * * * One man was sleeping oneday. In the middle of the night, he woke up. When he was still on the bed and partially awake, his shakti rose. In other words, his self-awareness got refined. He first perceived a tremendous bolt of electricity going up in his back. Then, in a split second, his perception of that electricity changed from " shakti inside me " to " I inside shakti " . His changed perception was that there was a tremendous amount of shakti that was surging up like an ocean wave and encompassing everything that was there and that he was a very tiny particle in that tremendous wave. Moreover, he also " heard " a specific beejaakshara being chanted together by millions of people, who were all tiny particles in that wave. That wave reverberated with the sound of that beejaakshara and he perceived that he too was chanting that beejaakshara along with all. His mind was filled with that sound and a kind of bliss. His self-awareness was that of a tiny particle filled with that sound and joy. He was in that state for a while. Suddenly a thought that can be loosely expressed as " I am on the bed in a room. How am I hearing all this? Are there people in the room " came to his mind. That thought disturbed the state of his mind and his shakti came down. In other words, he returned to the regular level of self-awareness and again perceived that he was a body lying on a bed in a room. The bliss was gone and mind was again filled with hundreds of thoughts as usual. He mentioned this incident a few days later to his spiritual guru, who lived thousands of miles away and a few hours ahead of him. When this happened, it was the middle of the night for him and morning for his guru. When he mentioned the incident and said that he heard the sound of a beejaakshara reverberating in the wave in which he was a small particle, his guru said he knew it and also mentioned the specific beejaakshara and asked " that is what you heard, right? " That was indeed correct. When he confirmed, his guru shed some light: " I was at that time meditating with that beejaakshara. So and so deity came and filled my consciousness. I then went into samadhi. Some people close to me may also have experienced that deity at that time. But we should realize that this is all Her play and we are just nimittas. What she does and why she does, she knows and we do not. We are just dummies observing what comes our way. We neither make anything happen nor should we desire anything to happen. Just be and observe. Do not be attracted or repelled by anything. " * * * If you are talking about the mystical experiences perceived by a single mind, the possibility of hallucination cannot be discounted. However, when two people independently experienced something similar and one of them knew that the other one experienced it, it shows that there is something here. It shows that the ultimate Reality is *beyond* the reality that can be perceived by senses and studied by modern science. Mind is the connection between the material and non-material worlds. Ego, the sense of " I " , is what blocks one from higher things. Notions like " I am the body " , " I should be safe " , " I should be happy " etc block one and limit one's self-awareness to a gross body and its gross external senses. When the self-awareness changes to that of a tiny particle at His/Her feet, it is a lot more blissful state to be in. But, we are kept away from that because our self-awareness is different and more gross and we cannot let it go! We just hang on to an undesirable self-awareness. * * * I want to make one thing clear. When I write about any mystical experiences, there is a chance of influencing someone wrongly. Luckily for me, the first thing my guru did with me was to de-emphasize the value of mystical experiences. I was prepared by him to look at them as just any other experiences in the material world. They really are. When one goes on a road, one sees nice scenery on the side. Some scenery on a normal road may be accessible to everyone and some scenery at a high altitude hill road may be seen by very few. But the bottomline is that both are sceneries and one should learn to just see it, appreciate it and move on. If attachment is built with a scenery or one becomes proud of oneself for having seen a scenery, it is foolish. Such feelings can distract one from the final goal and slow down one's journey. Nothing in the 14 worlds needs to be desired or feared. Just observe what comes your way and continue your journey. A mystical experience can promote pride in one ( " I am good and I got this " , " I did good sadhana and so I got this " , " I deserve this " etc) or attachment or possessiveness or a sense of entitlement. That can trap one and slow down spiritual progress. The ultimate goal of spiritual sadhana is to kill pride and overcome ego completely. That should be remembered at all times. I know that I mention this again and again. But internet and e-archives are a nonlinear medium. I want to make this key point in every relevant mail. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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