Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Dear all, This is my first time posting on the group. Hope the topic is not inappropriate. I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to articles which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is the difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all bijaksharas automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? What effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice versa? As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all details will be highly appreciated.. Thanks, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Dear Sundeep, This is quite relevant and not at all inappropriate. Let me give the crux of the philosophy. * * * The mind is like a monkey. It wanders from one place to another very rapidly and gives varied emotions such as pride, shame, anger, sadness etc. When the mind becomes nearly calm, steady and stable, one can experience the bliss of finding the true Self. The goal of all spiritual sadhana - japam, homam, dhyanam, contemplation and various rituals - is to enable the mind to become calm. At first, one cannot make the mind stable and calm. All one can do it to tie the monkey (mind) to a fixed pole (mantra). The monkey still moves around, but its motion is restricted. Once it goes far, the thread tying it to the pole stops it from going further away. Similarly, when one tries to focus on a mantra and one's mind wanders to other things, one constantly brings it back to the mantra and thus one's mind tries to stay on the mantra. Thus, mantra is an anchor for the mind to focus on when it tries to become calm and stable. After trying enough, just as monkey tied to a pole may stop jumping around and fall asleep holding on to the pole, the mind may stop thinking of so many things and become absolutely calm and stable while repeating a mantra. When all the thoughts cease and some level of silence comes to the mind, one experiences some level of bliss. * * * Thus, mantra is a combination of sounds that is repeated by the mind to aid mind to stop wandering from one thing to another thing. The goal is to give an anchor for the mind to focus on, instead of jumping everywhere. Various sound combinations can be used for this purpose. For example, one can even repeat " I want to find true Self " constantly. Every combination of sounds is capable of making the mind calm after repeating it enough. Sound patterns making sense in various languages were used by some saints and messiahs from time to time in the past to obtain bliss and those sound patterns are revered as being sacred in various religions. Compared to long sequence of sounds, short sound patterns are easier to focus the mind on. If you repeat a mantra with 32 or 24 letters/syllables, a part of the mind is responsible for changing from one letter to another and there is more mind activity even in a state of high mental focus on the mantra. If you repeat a single syllable constantly, the task is simpler for the mind and it is easier for the mind to shut down various tasks of the mind and become close to being still and silent. Various syllables can be used for this purpose. These syllables are called beeja aksharas. * * * Beeja means a seed. Beeja akshara means a seed syllable. When mind has absolutely no activity and becomes completely still (i.e. ceases to exist!), one realizes the true Self (Aatman or Brahman). When mind has very little activity and becomes nearly still (i.e. still exists, but in a very high state of focus and calmness), one realizes different pure manifestations of cosmic being. When one meditates on a beeja akshara and attains the above state of high mental focus and calmness, one's mind has no thoughts other than the repetition of the syllable. Each syllable acts as a seed corresponding to a deity. The energy of that deity fills one's consciousness when one's mind is filled with that syllable and has no other thoughts in it. In other words, each deity is a personifications of the state of a mind that is focused on the sound of a specific beeja with no other thoughts in it. * * * Of course, if one's mind has many thoughts while repeating a beeja akshara (or any mantra in general), one may experience a lot of emotions and things. But, when one's mind becomes nearly still and calm with no thought in it (other than what is needed for repeating that sound), we can say that one's individual ego has been replaced with that of a deity and the deity has filled one's mind. Thus, focused meditation on a beeja akshara can make one experience the energy of a deity. * * * Which syllables make one experience which energy was well-understood and catalogued by ancient Hindu sages nicely. Many mantras other than beeja aksharas were also experiemented by rishis, who understood the nature of energy experienced by one's mind when one's mind is completely filled with the sound of the mantra and all other thoughts leave the mind. So we need not experiment newly. We can use the knowledge discovered by rishis and go further. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - > Dear all, > This is my first time posting on the group. Hope the > topic is not inappropriate. > > I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to articles > which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the > Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. > > Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some > sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is the > difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all bijaksharas > automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? What > effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice versa? > > As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all details > will be highly appreciated.. > > Thanks, > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Respected Shri Narsimha Raoji,Namaskar & Pranaam You may not be knowing me at all. But, for me you are an " e-guru " . I am a minuscule part of the SJC parampara. I was introduced to your website by one of the SJC guru-bhai. I downloaded the " Basic Lesson " book and your class recordings. I have been going through your lectures faithfully and find it to be extremely enlightening. You will appreciate the fact that in this Kaliyuga its very difficult to consolidate one's faith in absence of experience and blessed individuals " updes " like yourself. Your thoughts, lectures and speech has always directed me to the spiritual path (in a foreign place where Vedic Knowledge is at dearth). The mentioned details on BEEJ mantra is one more example of your benevolent, kind nature to spread the knowledge on sanatan dharm. I am really blessed by your eruditions. I submit my gratitude of the highest order on to you and pray for your " sadGati " and all other good wishes that an ordinary mortal like me can impart. PranaamOm Tat Sat JitendraOn Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Dear Sundeep, This is quite relevant and not at all inappropriate. Let me give the crux of the philosophy. * * * The mind is like a monkey. It wanders from one place to another very rapidly and gives varied emotions such as pride, shame, anger, sadness etc. When the mind becomes nearly calm, steady and stable, one can experience the bliss of finding the true Self. The goal of all spiritual sadhana - japam, homam, dhyanam, contemplation and various rituals - is to enable the mind to become calm. At first, one cannot make the mind stable and calm. All one can do it to tie the monkey (mind) to a fixed pole (mantra). The monkey still moves around, but its motion is restricted. Once it goes far, the thread tying it to the pole stops it from going further away. Similarly, when one tries to focus on a mantra and one's mind wanders to other things, one constantly brings it back to the mantra and thus one's mind tries to stay on the mantra. Thus, mantra is an anchor for the mind to focus on when it tries to become calm and stable. After trying enough, just as monkey tied to a pole may stop jumping around and fall asleep holding on to the pole, the mind may stop thinking of so many things and become absolutely calm and stable while repeating a mantra. When all the thoughts cease and some level of silence comes to the mind, one experiences some level of bliss. * * * Thus, mantra is a combination of sounds that is repeated by the mind to aid mind to stop wandering from one thing to another thing. The goal is to give an anchor for the mind to focus on, instead of jumping everywhere. Various sound combinations can be used for this purpose. For example, one can even repeat " I want to find true Self " constantly. Every combination of sounds is capable of making the mind calm after repeating it enough. Sound patterns making sense in various languages were used by some saints and messiahs from time to time in the past to obtain bliss and those sound patterns are revered as being sacred in various religions. Compared to long sequence of sounds, short sound patterns are easier to focus the mind on. If you repeat a mantra with 32 or 24 letters/syllables, a part of the mind is responsible for changing from one letter to another and there is more mind activity even in a state of high mental focus on the mantra. If you repeat a single syllable constantly, the task is simpler for the mind and it is easier for the mind to shut down various tasks of the mind and become close to being still and silent. Various syllables can be used for this purpose. These syllables are called beeja aksharas. * * * Beeja means a seed. Beeja akshara means a seed syllable. When mind has absolutely no activity and becomes completely still (i.e. ceases to exist!), one realizes the true Self (Aatman or Brahman). When mind has very little activity and becomes nearly still (i.e. still exists, but in a very high state of focus and calmness), one realizes different pure manifestations of cosmic being. When one meditates on a beeja akshara and attains the above state of high mental focus and calmness, one's mind has no thoughts other than the repetition of the syllable. Each syllable acts as a seed corresponding to a deity. The energy of that deity fills one's consciousness when one's mind is filled with that syllable and has no other thoughts in it. In other words, each deity is a personifications of the state of a mind that is focused on the sound of a specific beeja with no other thoughts in it. * * * Of course, if one's mind has many thoughts while repeating a beeja akshara (or any mantra in general), one may experience a lot of emotions and things. But, when one's mind becomes nearly still and calm with no thought in it (other than what is needed for repeating that sound), we can say that one's individual ego has been replaced with that of a deity and the deity has filled one's mind. Thus, focused meditation on a beeja akshara can make one experience the energy of a deity. * * * Which syllables make one experience which energy was well-understood and catalogued by ancient Hindu sages nicely. Many mantras other than beeja aksharas were also experiemented by rishis, who understood the nature of energy experienced by one's mind when one's mind is completely filled with the sound of the mantra and all other thoughts leave the mind. So we need not experiment newly. We can use the knowledge discovered by rishis and go further. Best regards, Narasimha ------------------------- Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------- - > Dear all, > This is my first time posting on the group. Hope the > topic is not inappropriate. > > I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to articles > which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the > Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. > > Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some > sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is the > difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all bijaksharas > automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? What > effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice versa? > > As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all details > will be highly appreciated.. > > Thanks, > > Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Dear Jitendra ji, Namaste ! >....pray for your " sadGati " Narasimha is still alive :0) no hard feelings !!! Best Regards, Utpal , " Jitendra Trivedi " <trivedijv wrote: > > Respected Shri Narsimha Raoji, > > Namaskar & Pranaam > > You may not be knowing me at all. But, for me you are an " e-guru " . I am a > minuscule part of the SJC parampara. I was introduced to your website by one > of the SJC guru-bhai. I downloaded the " Basic Lesson " book and your class > recordings. I have been going through your lectures faithfully and find it > to be extremely enlightening. You will appreciate the fact that in this > Kaliyuga its very difficult to consolidate one's faith in absence of > experience and blessed individuals " updes " like yourself. > > Your thoughts, lectures and speech has always directed me to the spiritual > path (in a foreign place where Vedic Knowledge is at dearth). > > The mentioned details on BEEJ mantra is one more example of your benevolent, > kind nature to spread the knowledge on sanatan dharm. I am really blessed by > your eruditions. > > I submit my gratitude of the highest order on to you and pray for your > " sadGati " and all other good wishes that an ordinary mortal like me can > impart. > > Pranaam > > Om Tat Sat > > Jitendra > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvrwrote: > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > This is quite relevant and not at all inappropriate. Let me give the crux > > of > > the philosophy. > > > > * * * > > > > The mind is like a monkey. It wanders from one place to another very > > rapidly > > and gives varied emotions such as pride, shame, anger, sadness etc. When > > the > > mind becomes nearly calm, steady and stable, one can experience the bliss > > of > > finding the true Self. The goal of all spiritual sadhana - japam, homam, > > dhyanam, contemplation and various rituals - is to enable the mind to > > become > > calm. > > > > At first, one cannot make the mind stable and calm. All one can do it to > > tie > > the monkey (mind) to a fixed pole (mantra). The monkey still moves around, > > but its motion is restricted. Once it goes far, the thread tying it to the > > pole stops it from going further away. Similarly, when one tries to focus > > on > > a mantra and one's mind wanders to other things, one constantly brings it > > back to the mantra and thus one's mind tries to stay on the mantra. > > > > Thus, mantra is an anchor for the mind to focus on when it tries to become > > calm and stable. > > > > After trying enough, just as monkey tied to a pole may stop jumping around > > and fall asleep holding on to the pole, the mind may stop thinking of so > > many things and become absolutely calm and stable while repeating a mantra. > > > > When all the thoughts cease and some level of silence comes to the mind, > > one > > experiences some level of bliss. > > > > * * * > > > > Thus, mantra is a combination of sounds that is repeated by the mind to aid > > > > mind to stop wandering from one thing to another thing. The goal is to give > > > > an anchor for the mind to focus on, instead of jumping everywhere. > > > > Various sound combinations can be used for this purpose. For example, one > > can even repeat " I want to find true Self " constantly. Every combination of > > > > sounds is capable of making the mind calm after repeating it enough. Sound > > patterns making sense in various languages were used by some saints and > > messiahs from time to time in the past to obtain bliss and those sound > > patterns are revered as being sacred in various religions. > > > > Compared to long sequence of sounds, short sound patterns are easier to > > focus the mind on. If you repeat a mantra with 32 or 24 letters/syllables, > > a > > part of the mind is responsible for changing from one letter to another and > > > > there is more mind activity even in a state of high mental focus on the > > mantra. If you repeat a single syllable constantly, the task is simpler for > > > > the mind and it is easier for the mind to shut down various tasks of the > > mind and become close to being still and silent. > > > > Various syllables can be used for this purpose. These syllables are called > > beeja aksharas. > > > > * * * > > > > Beeja means a seed. Beeja akshara means a seed syllable. > > > > When mind has absolutely no activity and becomes completely still (i.e. > > ceases to exist!), one realizes the true Self (Aatman or Brahman). When > > mind > > has very little activity and becomes nearly still (i.e. still exists, but > > in > > a very high state of focus and calmness), one realizes different pure > > manifestations of cosmic being. > > > > When one meditates on a beeja akshara and attains the above state of high > > mental focus and calmness, one's mind has no thoughts other than the > > repetition of the syllable. Each syllable acts as a seed corresponding to a > > > > deity. The energy of that deity fills one's consciousness when one's mind > > is > > filled with that syllable and has no other thoughts in it. In other words, > > each deity is a personifications of the state of a mind that is focused on > > the sound of a specific beeja with no other thoughts in it. > > > > * * * > > > > Of course, if one's mind has many thoughts while repeating a beeja akshara > > (or any mantra in general), one may experience a lot of emotions and > > things. > > But, when one's mind becomes nearly still and calm with no thought in it > > (other than what is needed for repeating that sound), we can say that one's > > > > individual ego has been replaced with that of a deity and the deity has > > filled one's mind. > > > > Thus, focused meditation on a beeja akshara can make one experience the > > energy of a deity. > > > > * * * > > > > Which syllables make one experience which energy was well- understood and > > catalogued by ancient Hindu sages nicely. > > > > Many mantras other than beeja aksharas were also experiemented by rishis, > > who understood the nature of energy experienced by one's mind when one's > > mind is completely filled with the sound of the mantra and all other > > thoughts leave the mind. > > > > So we need not experiment newly. We can use the knowledge discovered by > > rishis and go further. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------- > > > > - > > > Dear all, > > > This is my first time posting on the group. Hope the > > > topic is not inappropriate. > > > > > > I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to articles > > > which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the > > > Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. > > > > > > Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some > > > sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is the > > > difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all bijaksharas > > > automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? What > > > effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice versa? > > > > > > As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all details > > > will be highly appreciated.. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Namaste Utpal ji, Sadgati can also be interpreted as 'path (gati) of Truth (Sat)' Regards, -Prasad , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > Dear Jitendra ji, > Namaste ! > > >....pray for your " sadGati " > > Narasimha is still alive :0) > > no hard feelings !!! > > Best Regards, > > Utpal > , " Jitendra Trivedi " > <trivedijv@> wrote: > > > > Respected Shri Narsimha Raoji, > > > > Namaskar & Pranaam > > > > You may not be knowing me at all. But, for me you are an " e-guru " . > I am a > > minuscule part of the SJC parampara. I was introduced to your > website by one > > of the SJC guru-bhai. I downloaded the " Basic Lesson " book and > your class > > recordings. I have been going through your lectures faithfully and > find it > > to be extremely enlightening. You will appreciate the fact that in > this > > Kaliyuga its very difficult to consolidate one's faith in absence > of > > experience and blessed individuals " updes " like yourself. > > > > Your thoughts, lectures and speech has always directed me to the > spiritual > > path (in a foreign place where Vedic Knowledge is at dearth). > > > > The mentioned details on BEEJ mantra is one more example of your > benevolent, > > kind nature to spread the knowledge on sanatan dharm. I am really > blessed by > > your eruditions. > > > > I submit my gratitude of the highest order on to you and pray for > your > > " sadGati " and all other good wishes that an ordinary mortal like > me can > > impart. > > > > Pranaam > > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > Jitendra > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > <pvr@>wrote: > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > This is quite relevant and not at all inappropriate. Let me give > the crux > > > of > > > the philosophy. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > The mind is like a monkey. It wanders from one place to another > very > > > rapidly > > > and gives varied emotions such as pride, shame, anger, sadness > etc. When > > > the > > > mind becomes nearly calm, steady and stable, one can experience > the bliss > > > of > > > finding the true Self. The goal of all spiritual sadhana - > japam, homam, > > > dhyanam, contemplation and various rituals - is to enable the > mind to > > > become > > > calm. > > > > > > At first, one cannot make the mind stable and calm. All one can > do it to > > > tie > > > the monkey (mind) to a fixed pole (mantra). The monkey still > moves around, > > > but its motion is restricted. Once it goes far, the thread tying > it to the > > > pole stops it from going further away. Similarly, when one tries > to focus > > > on > > > a mantra and one's mind wanders to other things, one constantly > brings it > > > back to the mantra and thus one's mind tries to stay on the > mantra. > > > > > > Thus, mantra is an anchor for the mind to focus on when it tries > to become > > > calm and stable. > > > > > > After trying enough, just as monkey tied to a pole may stop > jumping around > > > and fall asleep holding on to the pole, the mind may stop > thinking of so > > > many things and become absolutely calm and stable while > repeating a mantra. > > > > > > When all the thoughts cease and some level of silence comes to > the mind, > > > one > > > experiences some level of bliss. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Thus, mantra is a combination of sounds that is repeated by the > mind to aid > > > > > > mind to stop wandering from one thing to another thing. The goal > is to give > > > > > > an anchor for the mind to focus on, instead of jumping > everywhere. > > > > > > Various sound combinations can be used for this purpose. For > example, one > > > can even repeat " I want to find true Self " constantly. Every > combination of > > > > > > sounds is capable of making the mind calm after repeating it > enough. Sound > > > patterns making sense in various languages were used by some > saints and > > > messiahs from time to time in the past to obtain bliss and those > sound > > > patterns are revered as being sacred in various religions. > > > > > > Compared to long sequence of sounds, short sound patterns are > easier to > > > focus the mind on. If you repeat a mantra with 32 or 24 > letters/syllables, > > > a > > > part of the mind is responsible for changing from one letter to > another and > > > > > > there is more mind activity even in a state of high mental focus > on the > > > mantra. If you repeat a single syllable constantly, the task is > simpler for > > > > > > the mind and it is easier for the mind to shut down various > tasks of the > > > mind and become close to being still and silent. > > > > > > Various syllables can be used for this purpose. These syllables > are called > > > beeja aksharas. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Beeja means a seed. Beeja akshara means a seed syllable. > > > > > > When mind has absolutely no activity and becomes completely > still (i.e. > > > ceases to exist!), one realizes the true Self (Aatman or > Brahman). When > > > mind > > > has very little activity and becomes nearly still (i.e. still > exists, but > > > in > > > a very high state of focus and calmness), one realizes different > pure > > > manifestations of cosmic being. > > > > > > When one meditates on a beeja akshara and attains the above > state of high > > > mental focus and calmness, one's mind has no thoughts other than > the > > > repetition of the syllable. Each syllable acts as a seed > corresponding to a > > > > > > deity. The energy of that deity fills one's consciousness when > one's mind > > > is > > > filled with that syllable and has no other thoughts in it. In > other words, > > > each deity is a personifications of the state of a mind that is > focused on > > > the sound of a specific beeja with no other thoughts in it. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Of course, if one's mind has many thoughts while repeating a > beeja akshara > > > (or any mantra in general), one may experience a lot of emotions > and > > > things. > > > But, when one's mind becomes nearly still and calm with no > thought in it > > > (other than what is needed for repeating that sound), we can say > that one's > > > > > > individual ego has been replaced with that of a deity and the > deity has > > > filled one's mind. > > > > > > Thus, focused meditation on a beeja akshara can make one > experience the > > > energy of a deity. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Which syllables make one experience which energy was well- > understood and > > > catalogued by ancient Hindu sages nicely. > > > > > > Many mantras other than beeja aksharas were also experiemented > by rishis, > > > who understood the nature of energy experienced by one's mind > when one's > > > mind is completely filled with the sound of the mantra and all > other > > > thoughts leave the mind. > > > > > > So we need not experiment newly. We can use the knowledge > discovered by > > > rishis and go further. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > - > > > > Dear all, > > > > This is my first time posting on the group. Hope > the > > > > topic is not inappropriate. > > > > > > > > I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to > articles > > > > which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the > > > > Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. > > > > > > > > Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some > > > > sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is > the > > > > difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all > bijaksharas > > > > automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? > What > > > > effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice > versa? > > > > > > > > As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all > details > > > > will be highly appreciated.. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Namaste Prasad ji, I was just making little fun! In day to day life, we generally use the word 'SadGati' for the deceased person and that made me write it spontaneously. your explanation is very correct and Jitendra's emotions are also pure and saatwik. I am sure Jitendra or Narasimha won't mind it. Wish you all a very happy, Havan(ly) prosperous new year. Warm Reagards, Utpal , " vvootla " <vvootla wrote: > > Namaste Utpal ji, > > Sadgati can also be interpreted as 'path (gati) of Truth (Sat)' > > Regards, > -Prasad > > , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Jitendra ji, > > Namaste ! > > > > >....pray for your " sadGati " > > > > Narasimha is still alive :0) > > > > no hard feelings !!! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Utpal > > , " Jitendra Trivedi " > > <trivedijv@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Shri Narsimha Raoji, > > > > > > Namaskar & Pranaam > > > > > > You may not be knowing me at all. But, for me you are an " e- guru " . > > I am a > > > minuscule part of the SJC parampara. I was introduced to your > > website by one > > > of the SJC guru-bhai. I downloaded the " Basic Lesson " book and > > your class > > > recordings. I have been going through your lectures faithfully and > > find it > > > to be extremely enlightening. You will appreciate the fact that in > > this > > > Kaliyuga its very difficult to consolidate one's faith in absence > > of > > > experience and blessed individuals " updes " like yourself. > > > > > > Your thoughts, lectures and speech has always directed me to the > > spiritual > > > path (in a foreign place where Vedic Knowledge is at dearth). > > > > > > The mentioned details on BEEJ mantra is one more example of your > > benevolent, > > > kind nature to spread the knowledge on sanatan dharm. I am really > > blessed by > > > your eruditions. > > > > > > I submit my gratitude of the highest order on to you and pray for > > your > > > " sadGati " and all other good wishes that an ordinary mortal like > > me can > > > impart. > > > > > > Pranaam > > > > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > Jitendra > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao > > <pvr@>wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > > > This is quite relevant and not at all inappropriate. Let me give > > the crux > > > > of > > > > the philosophy. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > The mind is like a monkey. It wanders from one place to another > > very > > > > rapidly > > > > and gives varied emotions such as pride, shame, anger, sadness > > etc. When > > > > the > > > > mind becomes nearly calm, steady and stable, one can experience > > the bliss > > > > of > > > > finding the true Self. The goal of all spiritual sadhana - > > japam, homam, > > > > dhyanam, contemplation and various rituals - is to enable the > > mind to > > > > become > > > > calm. > > > > > > > > At first, one cannot make the mind stable and calm. All one can > > do it to > > > > tie > > > > the monkey (mind) to a fixed pole (mantra). The monkey still > > moves around, > > > > but its motion is restricted. Once it goes far, the thread tying > > it to the > > > > pole stops it from going further away. Similarly, when one tries > > to focus > > > > on > > > > a mantra and one's mind wanders to other things, one constantly > > brings it > > > > back to the mantra and thus one's mind tries to stay on the > > mantra. > > > > > > > > Thus, mantra is an anchor for the mind to focus on when it tries > > to become > > > > calm and stable. > > > > > > > > After trying enough, just as monkey tied to a pole may stop > > jumping around > > > > and fall asleep holding on to the pole, the mind may stop > > thinking of so > > > > many things and become absolutely calm and stable while > > repeating a mantra. > > > > > > > > When all the thoughts cease and some level of silence comes to > > the mind, > > > > one > > > > experiences some level of bliss. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Thus, mantra is a combination of sounds that is repeated by the > > mind to aid > > > > > > > > mind to stop wandering from one thing to another thing. The goal > > is to give > > > > > > > > an anchor for the mind to focus on, instead of jumping > > everywhere. > > > > > > > > Various sound combinations can be used for this purpose. For > > example, one > > > > can even repeat " I want to find true Self " constantly. Every > > combination of > > > > > > > > sounds is capable of making the mind calm after repeating it > > enough. Sound > > > > patterns making sense in various languages were used by some > > saints and > > > > messiahs from time to time in the past to obtain bliss and those > > sound > > > > patterns are revered as being sacred in various religions. > > > > > > > > Compared to long sequence of sounds, short sound patterns are > > easier to > > > > focus the mind on. If you repeat a mantra with 32 or 24 > > letters/syllables, > > > > a > > > > part of the mind is responsible for changing from one letter to > > another and > > > > > > > > there is more mind activity even in a state of high mental focus > > on the > > > > mantra. If you repeat a single syllable constantly, the task is > > simpler for > > > > > > > > the mind and it is easier for the mind to shut down various > > tasks of the > > > > mind and become close to being still and silent. > > > > > > > > Various syllables can be used for this purpose. These syllables > > are called > > > > beeja aksharas. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Beeja means a seed. Beeja akshara means a seed syllable. > > > > > > > > When mind has absolutely no activity and becomes completely > > still (i.e. > > > > ceases to exist!), one realizes the true Self (Aatman or > > Brahman). When > > > > mind > > > > has very little activity and becomes nearly still (i.e. still > > exists, but > > > > in > > > > a very high state of focus and calmness), one realizes different > > pure > > > > manifestations of cosmic being. > > > > > > > > When one meditates on a beeja akshara and attains the above > > state of high > > > > mental focus and calmness, one's mind has no thoughts other than > > the > > > > repetition of the syllable. Each syllable acts as a seed > > corresponding to a > > > > > > > > deity. The energy of that deity fills one's consciousness when > > one's mind > > > > is > > > > filled with that syllable and has no other thoughts in it. In > > other words, > > > > each deity is a personifications of the state of a mind that is > > focused on > > > > the sound of a specific beeja with no other thoughts in it. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Of course, if one's mind has many thoughts while repeating a > > beeja akshara > > > > (or any mantra in general), one may experience a lot of emotions > > and > > > > things. > > > > But, when one's mind becomes nearly still and calm with no > > thought in it > > > > (other than what is needed for repeating that sound), we can say > > that one's > > > > > > > > individual ego has been replaced with that of a deity and the > > deity has > > > > filled one's mind. > > > > > > > > Thus, focused meditation on a beeja akshara can make one > > experience the > > > > energy of a deity. > > > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > Which syllables make one experience which energy was well- > > understood and > > > > catalogued by ancient Hindu sages nicely. > > > > > > > > Many mantras other than beeja aksharas were also experiemented > > by rishis, > > > > who understood the nature of energy experienced by one's mind > > when one's > > > > mind is completely filled with the sound of the mantra and all > > other > > > > thoughts leave the mind. > > > > > > > > So we need not experiment newly. We can use the knowledge > > discovered by > > > > rishis and go further. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ------------------------- > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > This is my first time posting on the group. Hope > > the > > > > > topic is not inappropriate. > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if someone could tell me or point me to > > articles > > > > > which explain to some depth what a Bijakshara is, what are the > > > > > Bijaksharas and why they are said to be powerful. > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, I also want to know - why do only some > > > > > sounds/syllables qualify as Bijaksharas? Also, what exactly is > > the > > > > > difference between a mantra and bijaksharas? Are all > > bijaksharas > > > > > automatically mantras? Do mantras consist only of bijaksharas? > > What > > > > > effects do bijaksharas have that mantras dont have and vice > > versa? > > > > > > > > > > As you can see, I want a detailed explanation.. Any and all > > details > > > > > will be highly appreciated.. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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