Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Namaste, Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' was not successfull, however it is available in the web site of yougeshwarji at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for download. yours, utpal , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > Warm Regards, > > Utpal > > , Ashwin Rawal <ashwinrawal@> > wrote: > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he was > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe -. this > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can you help > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still alive today > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a very > highly > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention about his > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had also > confirmed > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly realized saint > too. > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of shirdi and > Naamdev > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on the bank > of > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described very > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of kunalini. He > had > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a fantastic > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of putting up the > web > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and books. > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > Ramakrishna > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in future may take > > more births. > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others use pardon > my > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from time to > time > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one of us has > a > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in conjunction > with > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of these > mahatmas > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects of the > saint > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all humam beings > but > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru who is > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time to time. > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations like > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these forms of > > initiations though very important are very rare or uncommon. > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions pop up in > my > > mind about him. > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have guided many > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more unique. > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning in the > book > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he feel after > that? > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the middle of > giving > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a spiritual > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few days, was > this > > the case? > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more light. > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this book if one > has > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book on his > web site. > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the betterment and > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He spread the > Devi > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all around india. > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey which is > very > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > Best Regards > > Mitesh > > > > , " utpal pathak " > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri Ram > Sharma > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing thing is that > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also revealtion > about > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his biography > that > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " <theblisswithin@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an interesting > > > insight. > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually said in > his > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My Inheritances > and > > > Will, > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years old and > sitting > > > for > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his past > lives > > > and > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He realised that > he had > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and before that > Guru > > > of > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The general > site is > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in English > > > somewhere > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great Devine > experience > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable experience > that I > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am writing > > > exactly > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the period of > > > 1973/74. > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > >  > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post office near > > > Dwarka. > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late fee > allowance > > > for > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just opposite to > Post > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with some > > > Telephone > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him as Mr. > Patel) > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee of   shri > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was always > talking > > > about > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a weekly > > > gathering at > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional songs > created > > > by > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading Ramkrishna > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending this weekly > > > meeting > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. Patel was of > 30 > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm after duty > hours > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told me-- > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is remembering me. > My > > > son > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have to go > nowâ€. - > > > - > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call him. > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will be a > plane > > > crash > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much impressed > about > > > him. > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to Dwarka by > Bus, > > > he > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be punctured. > Yet I > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka as was > > > punctured > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had some super > > > power > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > attracted to > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be disciple of > shri > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > surrendered > > > myself > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur picture. I > prayed > > > him > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and bestow > his > > > grace. > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at 6.10 > morning > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 am I was > > > waking > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning that I > have > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife was annoyed > and > > > she > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take such a > hasty > > > decision? > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at Calcutta. > He > > > was a > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who can guide > us, > > > give > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri Ram Sharma > > > Acharya > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in general > not > > > know > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes I have > taken > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. -- > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that Thakur was > telling > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I also > decided to > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that �� " “See, > Mr. Patel > > > has > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. He has > never > > > asked > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to our house > > > within > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection for > Thakur is > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I don’t > believe.â€- > > > - > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately to > justify my > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > existence > > > even > > > > today.’ > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at 06.30 in > the > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know what > happened? > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my home at > 05.30 > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. Suddenly > Thakur > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your friend’s > > > house. He > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show you his > > > house†> > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was guiding me the > way > > > to > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you are > > > disturbing > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things?’ > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had no words > that > > > > Morning. > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day in my > life. > > > There > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur but I will > > > write > > > > it sometime. > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still alive on > the > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is added to > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Thank you very much Utpal ji. I go the prakash na panthe book in english too from the web site. Thanks , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > Namaste, > > Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' was not > successfull, however it is available in the web site of yougeshwarji > > at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm > > many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for download. > > yours, > utpal > > , " utpal pathak " > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Utpal > > > > , Ashwin Rawal <ashwinrawal@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he was > > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe -. this > > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can you > help > > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still alive today > > > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a very > > highly > > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention about his > > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had also > > confirmed > > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly realized > saint > > too. > > > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of shirdi and > > Naamdev > > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on the > bank > > of > > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described very > > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of kunalini. > He > > had > > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a > fantastic > > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of putting up > the > > web > > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and books. > > > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > > Ramakrishna > > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in future may > take > > > more births. > > > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others use > pardon > > my > > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from time > to > > time > > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one of us > has > > a > > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in > conjunction > > with > > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of these > > mahatmas > > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects of the > > saint > > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all humam > beings > > but > > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru who is > > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time to time. > > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations like > > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these forms > of > > > initiations though very important are very rare or uncommon. > > > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions pop up > in > > my > > > mind about him. > > > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have guided many > > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more unique. > > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning in the > > book > > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he feel after > > that? > > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the middle of > > giving > > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a spiritual > > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few days, > was > > this > > > the case? > > > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more light. > > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this book if > one > > has > > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book on his > > web site. > > > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the betterment and > > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He spread the > > Devi > > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all around > india. > > > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey which is > > very > > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Mitesh > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri Ram > > Sharma > > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing thing is > that > > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also revealtion > > about > > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his > biography > > that > > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " <theblisswithin@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an interesting > > > > insight. > > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually said in > > his > > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My Inheritances > > and > > > > Will, > > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years old and > > sitting > > > > for > > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his past > > lives > > > > and > > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He realised that > > he had > > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and before that > > Guru > > > > of > > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The general > > site is > > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in English > > > > somewhere > > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great Devine > > experience > > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable experience > > that I > > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am > writing > > > > exactly > > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the period of > > > > 1973/74. > > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > > >  > > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post office > near > > > > Dwarka. > > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late fee > > allowance > > > > for > > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just opposite to > > Post > > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with some > > > > Telephone > > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him as Mr. > > Patel) > > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee of   > shri > > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was always > > talking > > > > about > > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a weekly > > > > gathering at > > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional songs > > created > > > > by > > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading Ramkrishna > > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending this > weekly > > > > meeting > > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. Patel was > of > > 30 > > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm after > duty > > hours > > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told me-- > > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is remembering > me. > > My > > > > son > > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have to go > > nowâ€. - > > > > - > > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call him. > > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will be a > > plane > > > > crash > > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much impressed > > about > > > > him. > > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to Dwarka > by > > Bus, > > > > he > > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be > punctured. > > Yet I > > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka as was > > > > punctured > > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had some > super > > > > power > > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > > attracted to > > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be disciple of > > shri > > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > > surrendered > > > > myself > > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur picture. I > > prayed > > > > him > > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and bestow > > his > > > > grace. > > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at 6.10 > > morning > > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 am I > was > > > > waking > > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning that I > > have > > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife was > annoyed > > and > > > > she > > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take such a > > hasty > > > > decision? > > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at Calcutta. > > He > > > > was a > > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who can guide > > us, > > > > give > > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri Ram > Sharma > > > > Acharya > > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in general > > not > > > > know > > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes I have > > taken > > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. -- > > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that Thakur was > > telling > > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I also > > decided to > > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that �� " “See, > > Mr. Patel > > > > has > > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. He has > > never > > > > asked > > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to our > house > > > > within > > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection for > > Thakur is > > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I don’t > > believe.â€- > > > > - > > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately to > > justify my > > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > > existence > > > > even > > > > > today.’ > > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at 06.30 > in > > the > > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know what > > happened? > > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my home > at > > 05.30 > > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. Suddenly > > Thakur > > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your friend’s > > > > house. He > > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show you his > > > > house†> > > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was guiding me > the > > way > > > > to > > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you are > > > > disturbing > > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things?’ > > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had no words > > that > > > > > Morning. > > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day in my > > life. > > > > There > > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur but I > will > > > > write > > > > > it sometime. > > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still alive > on > > the > > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is added to > > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Dear Utpal ji, It looks like only first 7 chapters are available in English. However I am very lucky to know about this great humble and practical saint. I really like autobiographies(first hand experiences) of the great saints. One of the most impressive things is he just didn't recollect his memories to write his autobiography, rather he used the diary which he has maintained throughout his life to record his experiences. I will try to get the information about that book soon from the website owner. Translation also looks very good. Thanks and Regards, kumar Ghanta , " kumar_gh_2000 " <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: > > Thank you very much Utpal ji. I go the prakash na panthe book in > english too from the web site. Thanks > , " utpal pathak " > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' was > not > > successfull, however it is available in the web site of yougeshwarji > > > > at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm > > > > many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for download. > > > > yours, > > utpal > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > > > > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal <ashwinrawal@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he was > > > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe -. this > > > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can you > > help > > > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still alive > today > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a very > > > highly > > > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention about his > > > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had also > > > confirmed > > > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly realized > > saint > > > too. > > > > > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of shirdi and > > > Naamdev > > > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on the > > bank > > > of > > > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described very > > > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of kunalini. > > He > > > had > > > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a > > fantastic > > > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of putting up > > the > > > web > > > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and books. > > > > > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > > > Ramakrishna > > > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in future may > > take > > > > more births. > > > > > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others use > > pardon > > > my > > > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from time > > to > > > time > > > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one of us > > has > > > a > > > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in > > conjunction > > > with > > > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of these > > > mahatmas > > > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects of the > > > saint > > > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all humam > > beings > > > but > > > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru who is > > > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time to > time. > > > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations like > > > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these forms > > of > > > > initiations though very important are very rare or uncommon. > > > > > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions pop up > > in > > > my > > > > mind about him. > > > > > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have guided > many > > > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more unique. > > > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning in the > > > book > > > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he feel > after > > > that? > > > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the middle of > > > giving > > > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a > spiritual > > > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few days, > > was > > > this > > > > the case? > > > > > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more light. > > > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this book if > > one > > > has > > > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book on his > > > web site. > > > > > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the betterment > and > > > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He spread > the > > > Devi > > > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all around > > india. > > > > > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey which is > > > very > > > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri Ram > > > Sharma > > > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing thing is > > that > > > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also revealtion > > > about > > > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his > > biography > > > that > > > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " > <theblisswithin@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an > interesting > > > > > insight. > > > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually said > in > > > his > > > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My Inheritances > > > and > > > > > Will, > > > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years old and > > > sitting > > > > > for > > > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his past > > > lives > > > > > and > > > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He realised > that > > > he had > > > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and before > that > > > Guru > > > > > of > > > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The general > > > site is > > > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in English > > > > > somewhere > > > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great Devine > > > experience > > > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable > experience > > > that I > > > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am > > writing > > > > > exactly > > > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the period > of > > > > > 1973/74. > > > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post office > > near > > > > > Dwarka. > > > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late fee > > > allowance > > > > > for > > > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just opposite to > > > Post > > > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with some > > > > > Telephone > > > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him as > Mr. > > > Patel) > > > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee of   > > shri > > > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was always > > > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a weekly > > > > > gathering at > > > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional songs > > > created > > > > > by > > > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading Ramkrishna > > > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending this > > weekly > > > > > meeting > > > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. Patel was > > of > > > 30 > > > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm after > > duty > > > hours > > > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told me-- > > > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is remembering > > me. > > > My > > > > > son > > > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have to go > > > nowâ€. - > > > > > - > > > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call him. > > > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will be a > > > plane > > > > > crash > > > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much impressed > > > about > > > > > him. > > > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to Dwarka > > by > > > Bus, > > > > > he > > > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be > > punctured. > > > Yet I > > > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka as was > > > > > punctured > > > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had some > > super > > > > > power > > > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > > > attracted to > > > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be disciple > of > > > shri > > > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > > > surrendered > > > > > myself > > > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur picture. I > > > prayed > > > > > him > > > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and > bestow > > > his > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at 6.10 > > > morning > > > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 am I > > was > > > > > waking > > > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning that I > > > have > > > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife was > > annoyed > > > and > > > > > she > > > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take such a > > > hasty > > > > > decision? > > > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at > Calcutta. > > > He > > > > > was a > > > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who can > guide > > > us, > > > > > give > > > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri Ram > > Sharma > > > > > Acharya > > > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in > general > > > not > > > > > know > > > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes I > have > > > taken > > > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. -- > > > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that Thakur was > > > telling > > > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I also > > > decided to > > > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that �� " “See, > > > Mr. Patel > > > > > has > > > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. He has > > > never > > > > > asked > > > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to our > > house > > > > > within > > > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection for > > > Thakur is > > > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I don’t > > > believe.â€- > > > > > - > > > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately to > > > justify my > > > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > > > existence > > > > > even > > > > > > today.’ > > > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at 06.30 > > in > > > the > > > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know what > > > happened? > > > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my home > > at > > > 05.30 > > > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. > Suddenly > > > Thakur > > > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your > friend’s > > > > > house. He > > > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show you > his > > > > > house†> > > > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was guiding me > > the > > > way > > > > > to > > > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you are > > > > > disturbing > > > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things?’ > > > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had no > words > > > that > > > > > > Morning. > > > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day in my > > > life. > > > > > There > > > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur but I > > will > > > > > write > > > > > > it sometime. > > > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still alive > > on > > > the > > > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is added to > > > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Dear Kumar If you liked this book then I recommend you please read some books by Shivom Tirth Maharaj too. His book " Churning of Heart " , there are 3 volumes and they are very good books that decribe the biography of the lineage and Kundalini Shakti. Very well written and very simple. If you are located in US than you can get it from Amazon.com. If you need information about India than I can try to get the address and phone number etc. Best Regards Mitesh , " kumar_gh_2000 " <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: > > Dear Utpal ji, > It looks like only first 7 chapters are available in English. However > I am very lucky to know about this great humble and practical saint. > I really like autobiographies(first hand experiences) of the great > saints. One of the most impressive things is he just didn't recollect > his memories to write his autobiography, rather he used the diary > which he has maintained throughout his life to record his > experiences. > > I will try to get the information about that book soon from the > website owner. Translation also looks very good. > Thanks and Regards, > kumar Ghanta > , " kumar_gh_2000 " > <kumar_gh_2000@> wrote: > > > > Thank you very much Utpal ji. I go the prakash na panthe book in > > english too from the web site. Thanks > > , " utpal pathak " > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' was > > not > > > successfull, however it is available in the web site of > yougeshwarji > > > > > > at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm > > > > > > many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for download. > > > > > > yours, > > > utpal > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > > > > > > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > <ashwinrawal@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he was > > > > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe -. > this > > > > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can you > > > help > > > > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > > > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still alive > > today > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a very > > > > highly > > > > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention about > his > > > > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had also > > > > confirmed > > > > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly realized > > > saint > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of shirdi > and > > > > Naamdev > > > > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on the > > > bank > > > > of > > > > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described very > > > > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of > kunalini. > > > He > > > > had > > > > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a > > > fantastic > > > > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of putting up > > > the > > > > web > > > > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and > books. > > > > > > > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > > > > Ramakrishna > > > > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in future > may > > > take > > > > > more births. > > > > > > > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others use > > > pardon > > > > my > > > > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from > time > > > to > > > > time > > > > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one of > us > > > has > > > > a > > > > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in > > > conjunction > > > > with > > > > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of these > > > > mahatmas > > > > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects of > the > > > > saint > > > > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all humam > > > beings > > > > but > > > > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > > > > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru who > is > > > > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time to > > time. > > > > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations like > > > > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these > forms > > > of > > > > > initiations though very important are very rare or uncommon. > > > > > > > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions pop > up > > > in > > > > my > > > > > mind about him. > > > > > > > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have guided > > many > > > > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more > unique. > > > > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning in > the > > > > book > > > > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he feel > > after > > > > that? > > > > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the middle of > > > > giving > > > > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > > > > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a > > spiritual > > > > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few days, > > > was > > > > this > > > > > the case? > > > > > > > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more light. > > > > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this book > if > > > one > > > > has > > > > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book on > his > > > > web site. > > > > > > > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the betterment > > and > > > > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He spread > > the > > > > Devi > > > > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all around > > > india. > > > > > > > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey which > is > > > > very > > > > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri Ram > > > > Sharma > > > > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing thing is > > > that > > > > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also revealtion > > > > about > > > > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his > > > biography > > > > that > > > > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " > > <theblisswithin@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an > > interesting > > > > > > insight. > > > > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually said > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My > Inheritances > > > > and > > > > > > Will, > > > > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years old > and > > > > sitting > > > > > > for > > > > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his > past > > > > lives > > > > > > and > > > > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He realised > > that > > > > he had > > > > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and before > > that > > > > Guru > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The > general > > > > site is > > > > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in > English > > > > > > somewhere > > > > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > > > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great Devine > > > > experience > > > > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable > > experience > > > > that I > > > > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am > > > writing > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the period > > of > > > > > > 1973/74. > > > > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post office > > > near > > > > > > Dwarka. > > > > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late fee > > > > allowance > > > > > > for > > > > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just opposite > to > > > > Post > > > > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with > some > > > > > > Telephone > > > > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him as > > Mr. > > > > Patel) > > > > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee > of   > > > shri > > > > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was always > > > > talking > > > > > > about > > > > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a weekly > > > > > > gathering at > > > > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional songs > > > > created > > > > > > by > > > > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading > Ramkrishna > > > > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending this > > > weekly > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. Patel > was > > > of > > > > 30 > > > > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm after > > > duty > > > > hours > > > > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told me-- > > > > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is > remembering > > > me. > > > > My > > > > > > son > > > > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have to go > > > > nowâ€. - > > > > > > - > > > > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call > him. > > > > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will be a > > > > plane > > > > > > crash > > > > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much > impressed > > > > about > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to > Dwarka > > > by > > > > Bus, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be > > > punctured. > > > > Yet I > > > > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka as > was > > > > > > punctured > > > > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had some > > > super > > > > > > power > > > > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > > > > attracted to > > > > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be disciple > > of > > > > shri > > > > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > > > > surrendered > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur picture. I > > > > prayed > > > > > > him > > > > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and > > bestow > > > > his > > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at > 6.10 > > > > morning > > > > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 am I > > > was > > > > > > waking > > > > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning that > I > > > > have > > > > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife was > > > annoyed > > > > and > > > > > > she > > > > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take such > a > > > > hasty > > > > > > decision? > > > > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at > > Calcutta. > > > > He > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who can > > guide > > > > us, > > > > > > give > > > > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri Ram > > > Sharma > > > > > > Acharya > > > > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in > > general > > > > not > > > > > > know > > > > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes I > > have > > > > taken > > > > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. -- > > > > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that Thakur > was > > > > telling > > > > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I also > > > > decided to > > > > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that > �� " “See, > > > > Mr. Patel > > > > > > has > > > > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. He > has > > > > never > > > > > > asked > > > > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to our > > > house > > > > > > within > > > > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection for > > > > Thakur is > > > > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I > don’t > > > > believe.â€- > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately to > > > > justify my > > > > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > > > > existence > > > > > > even > > > > > > > today.’ > > > > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at > 06.30 > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know what > > > > happened? > > > > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my > home > > > at > > > > 05.30 > > > > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. > > Suddenly > > > > Thakur > > > > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your > > friend’s > > > > > > house. He > > > > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show you > > his > > > > > > house†> > > > > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was guiding > me > > > the > > > > way > > > > > > to > > > > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you are > > > > > > disturbing > > > > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things?’ > > > > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had no > > words > > > > that > > > > > > > Morning. > > > > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day in my > > > > life. > > > > > > There > > > > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur but I > > > will > > > > > > write > > > > > > > it sometime. > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still > alive > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is added > to > > > > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Dear Mitesh ji, Thank you very much for the suggestion. I will order those books through Amazon. I read a book of Gopi krishna ji on Kundalini awakening. Thanks and Regards, Kumar Ghanta , " m540i98 " <m540i98 wrote: > > Dear Kumar > > If you liked this book then I recommend you please read some > books by Shivom Tirth Maharaj too. > > His book " Churning of Heart " , there are 3 volumes and they are very > good books that decribe the biography of the lineage and Kundalini > Shakti. Very well written and very simple. If you are located in US > than you can get it from Amazon.com. > > If you need information about India than I can try to get the address > and phone number etc. > > Best Regards > Mitesh > > , " kumar_gh_2000 " > <kumar_gh_2000@> wrote: > > > > Dear Utpal ji, > > It looks like only first 7 chapters are available in English. However > > I am very lucky to know about this great humble and practical saint. > > I really like autobiographies(first hand experiences) of the great > > saints. One of the most impressive things is he just didn't recollect > > his memories to write his autobiography, rather he used the diary > > which he has maintained throughout his life to record his > > experiences. > > > > I will try to get the information about that book soon from the > > website owner. Translation also looks very good. > > Thanks and Regards, > > kumar Ghanta > > , " kumar_gh_2000 " > > <kumar_gh_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you very much Utpal ji. I go the prakash na panthe book in > > > english too from the web site. Thanks > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' was > > > not > > > > successfull, however it is available in the web site of > > yougeshwarji > > > > > > > > at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm > > > > > > > > many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for download. > > > > > > > > yours, > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > <ashwinrawal@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he was > > > > > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe - .. > > this > > > > > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can you > > > > help > > > > > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > > > > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still alive > > > today > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a very > > > > > highly > > > > > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention about > > his > > > > > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had also > > > > > confirmed > > > > > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly realized > > > > saint > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of shirdi > > and > > > > > Naamdev > > > > > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on the > > > > bank > > > > > of > > > > > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described very > > > > > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of > > kunalini. > > > > He > > > > > had > > > > > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a > > > > fantastic > > > > > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of putting up > > > > the > > > > > web > > > > > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and > > books. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > > > > > Ramakrishna > > > > > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in future > > may > > > > take > > > > > > more births. > > > > > > > > > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others use > > > > pardon > > > > > my > > > > > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from > > time > > > > to > > > > > time > > > > > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one of > > us > > > > has > > > > > a > > > > > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in > > > > conjunction > > > > > with > > > > > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of these > > > > > mahatmas > > > > > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects of > > the > > > > > saint > > > > > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all humam > > > > beings > > > > > but > > > > > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru who > > is > > > > > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time to > > > time. > > > > > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations like > > > > > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these > > forms > > > > of > > > > > > initiations though very important are very rare or uncommon. > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions pop > > up > > > > in > > > > > my > > > > > > mind about him. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have guided > > > many > > > > > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more > > unique. > > > > > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning in > > the > > > > > book > > > > > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he feel > > > after > > > > > that? > > > > > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the middle of > > > > > giving > > > > > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a > > > spiritual > > > > > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few days, > > > > was > > > > > this > > > > > > the case? > > > > > > > > > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more light. > > > > > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this book > > if > > > > one > > > > > has > > > > > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book on > > his > > > > > web site. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the betterment > > > and > > > > > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He spread > > > the > > > > > Devi > > > > > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all around > > > > india. > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey which > > is > > > > > very > > > > > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri Ram > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing thing is > > > > that > > > > > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also revealtion > > > > > about > > > > > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his > > > > biography > > > > > that > > > > > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " > > > <theblisswithin@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an > > > interesting > > > > > > > insight. > > > > > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually said > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My > > Inheritances > > > > > and > > > > > > > Will, > > > > > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years old > > and > > > > > sitting > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his > > past > > > > > lives > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He realised > > > that > > > > > he had > > > > > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and before > > > that > > > > > Guru > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The > > general > > > > > site is > > > > > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in > > English > > > > > > > somewhere > > > > > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > > > > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great Devine > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable > > > experience > > > > > that I > > > > > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am > > > > writing > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the period > > > of > > > > > > > 1973/74. > > > > > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post office > > > > near > > > > > > > Dwarka. > > > > > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late fee > > > > > allowance > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just opposite > > to > > > > > Post > > > > > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with > > some > > > > > > > Telephone > > > > > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him as > > > Mr. > > > > > Patel) > > > > > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee > > of   > > > > shri > > > > > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was always > > > > > talking > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a weekly > > > > > > > gathering at > > > > > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional songs > > > > > created > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading > > Ramkrishna > > > > > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending this > > > > weekly > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. Patel > > was > > > > of > > > > > 30 > > > > > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm after > > > > duty > > > > > hours > > > > > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told me-- > > > > > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is > > remembering > > > > me. > > > > > My > > > > > > > son > > > > > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have to go > > > > > nowâ€. - > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call > > him. > > > > > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will be a > > > > > plane > > > > > > > crash > > > > > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much > > impressed > > > > > about > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to > > Dwarka > > > > by > > > > > Bus, > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be > > > > punctured. > > > > > Yet I > > > > > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka as > > was > > > > > > > punctured > > > > > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had some > > > > super > > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > > > > > attracted to > > > > > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be disciple > > > of > > > > > shri > > > > > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > > > > > surrendered > > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur picture. I > > > > > prayed > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and > > > bestow > > > > > his > > > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at > > 6.10 > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 am I > > > > was > > > > > > > waking > > > > > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning that > > I > > > > > have > > > > > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife was > > > > annoyed > > > > > and > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take such > > a > > > > > hasty > > > > > > > decision? > > > > > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at > > > Calcutta. > > > > > He > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who can > > > guide > > > > > us, > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri Ram > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > Acharya > > > > > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in > > > general > > > > > not > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes I > > > have > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. - - > > > > > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that Thakur > > was > > > > > telling > > > > > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I also > > > > > decided to > > > > > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that > > �� " “See, > > > > > Mr. Patel > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. He > > has > > > > > never > > > > > > > asked > > > > > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to our > > > > house > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection for > > > > > Thakur is > > > > > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I > > don’t > > > > > believe.â€- > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately to > > > > > justify my > > > > > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > > > > > existence > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > today.’ > > > > > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at > > 06.30 > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know what > > > > > happened? > > > > > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my > > home > > > > at > > > > > 05.30 > > > > > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. > > > Suddenly > > > > > Thakur > > > > > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your > > > friend’s > > > > > > > house. He > > > > > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show you > > > his > > > > > > > house†> > > > > > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was guiding > > me > > > > the > > > > > way > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you are > > > > > > > disturbing > > > > > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things? ’ > > > > > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had no > > > words > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Morning. > > > > > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day in my > > > > > life. > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur but I > > > > will > > > > > > > write > > > > > > > > it sometime. > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still > > alive > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is added > > to > > > > > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Dear Mitesh ji, I started to read the volume 3 in the Google Books. What an extraordinary book? Swami Shovom thirth Maharaj's Guru Sri Vishnu Thirth Maharaj's discourses are awesome. I believe his analysis of the mind is superior than the most advanced psychology professors. I believe this volume 3 is superior than any personal development/self- help/psychology book I read. What a great realized scholor and Master? I would never forget his detachment and his talks about detachment. This book doesn't just talk about theory. I believe this book should be the must read for all spiritual aspirants. This is my opinion after reading just first 3 chapters. I am ordering it now and I want to follow the teachings of this great guru. Let me conclude with a great quote from Sri Shivanand maharaj, " An Ounce of practise is worth more than tons of theory " Thank you very very very much once again for the great suggestion. Kumar , " kumar_gh_2000 " <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: > > Dear Mitesh ji, > Thank you very much for the suggestion. I will order those books > through Amazon. I read a book of Gopi krishna ji on Kundalini > awakening. > Thanks and Regards, > Kumar Ghanta > > > > , " m540i98 " <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kumar > > > > If you liked this book then I recommend you please read some > > books by Shivom Tirth Maharaj too. > > > > His book " Churning of Heart " , there are 3 volumes and they are very > > good books that decribe the biography of the lineage and Kundalini > > Shakti. Very well written and very simple. If you are located in US > > than you can get it from Amazon.com. > > > > If you need information about India than I can try to get the > address > > and phone number etc. > > > > Best Regards > > Mitesh > > > > , " kumar_gh_2000 " > > <kumar_gh_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Utpal ji, > > > It looks like only first 7 chapters are available in English. > However > > > I am very lucky to know about this great humble and practical > saint. > > > I really like autobiographies(first hand experiences) of the > great > > > saints. One of the most impressive things is he just didn't > recollect > > > his memories to write his autobiography, rather he used the diary > > > which he has maintained throughout his life to record his > > > experiences. > > > > > > I will try to get the information about that book soon from the > > > website owner. Translation also looks very good. > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > kumar Ghanta > > > , " kumar_gh_2000 " > > > <kumar_gh_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you very much Utpal ji. I go the prakash na panthe book > in > > > > english too from the web site. Thanks > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Due to some technical problem, upload of 'Prakash Na Panthe' > was > > > > not > > > > > successfull, however it is available in the web site of > > > yougeshwarji > > > > > > > > > > at http://swargarohan.com/Download.htm > > > > > > > > > > many of his books (In Gujarati) is available there for > download. > > > > > > > > > > yours, > > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > > <vedic_pathak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ashwin Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've uploaded 'Prakash Na Panthe' in the File section. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > > <ashwinrawal@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Miteshji, I had attended seminars of Yukteshwarji when he > was > > > > > > alive. I had read one book in Gujarati- Prakash Na Panthe - > . > > > this > > > > > > book is not available anywhere now. I want this book . Can > you > > > > > help > > > > > > please ? What website you have mentioned ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, m540i98 <m540i98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > m540i98 <m540i98@> > > > > > > > Re: Shri Shri THAKUR is still > alive > > > > today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 3:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both these are very credible saints. Sri Yogeshwar was a > very > > > > > > highly > > > > > > > realized saint. His book is very good. He does mention > about > > > his > > > > > > > prevoius birth and also mentions that Saccha Baba had > also > > > > > > confirmed > > > > > > > the same thing. Saccha Baba was another very highly > realized > > > > > saint > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Yogeshwar had many times visions of Sai Baba of > shirdi > > > and > > > > > > Naamdev > > > > > > > and also many other saints too. The initiation he got on > the > > > > > bank > > > > > > of > > > > > > > river Narmada awakened his kundalini and he has described > very > > > > > > > accurately the state and symptoms after awekaning of > > > kunalini. > > > > > He > > > > > > had > > > > > > > very good command on all aspects of sprituality and was a > > > > > fantastic > > > > > > > orator. His followers have done a very good job of > putting up > > > > > the > > > > > > web > > > > > > > site and sharing the information for free both audio and > > > books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiti Leela or the play of Shakti or God is very complex, > > > > > > Ramakrishna > > > > > > > may have taken birth as more than one person and in > future > > > may > > > > > take > > > > > > > more births. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His comsic body (karan sharir) or whatever name others > use > > > > > pardon > > > > > > my > > > > > > > lack of appropriate word, is also alive and manifest from > > > time > > > > > to > > > > > > time > > > > > > > After reading this and other books, I feel that each one > of > > > us > > > > > has > > > > > > a > > > > > > > inner guru along with our atma and this inner guru in > > > > > conjunction > > > > > > with > > > > > > > our accumulated or sanchit sankaras give us visions of > these > > > > > > mahatmas > > > > > > > or help us attach or attract to a Saint or some aspects > of > > > the > > > > > > saint > > > > > > > more than others. This inner guru is the same in all > humam > > > > > beings > > > > > > but > > > > > > > manifests uniquely based on each person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also believe that one needs to get initiated by a Guru > who > > > is > > > > > > > present in physical form and seek guidance from him time > to > > > > time. > > > > > > > There are many instances of other forms of inititations > like > > > > > > > initiation in dream or inititation by cosmic forms, these > > > forms > > > > > of > > > > > > > initiations though very important are very rare or > uncommon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading Sri Yogeshwar's book I had some questions > pop > > > up > > > > > in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > mind about him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) What was the purpose of his birth? Yes he may have > guided > > > > many > > > > > > > spiritual aspirants, but there has to be something more > > > unique. > > > > > > > 2) Did he realize the ultimate? i.e. he keeps mentioning > in > > > the > > > > > > book > > > > > > > about it in many places? Was he satisfied? How did he > feel > > > > after > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > 3) He did pass away abruptly in bombay while in the > middle of > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > spirtual talks? It seems unusual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also read somewhere that once a person reaches a > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > state, he cannot remain in human body for more than few > days, > > > > > was > > > > > > this > > > > > > > the case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be others who have read this book can share more > light. > > > > > > > I do recommend to seekers of spirutuality to read this > book > > > if > > > > > one > > > > > > has > > > > > > > time, it is available for free to download as a pdf book > on > > > his > > > > > > web site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Ram Sharma also has done a lot of work for the > betterment > > > > and > > > > > > > upliftment, a lot of his information is wellknown. He > spread > > > > the > > > > > > Devi > > > > > > > Gayatri mantra/homa and other things in a big way all > around > > > > > india. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel like I have not even begun my spiritual journey > which > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > very long too and many obstacles in the path. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > Mitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " utpal pathak " > > > > > > <vedic_pathak@ ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one Gayatri Upaasaka told me many years back that Shri > Ram > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > Acharya was born as Thakur Ramkrishna in previous life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another as intresting as well as equally confusing > thing is > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Late Shri Yogeshwarji (A Gujarati yogi) had also > revealtion > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > his past life and he also indirectly indicated in his > > > > > biography > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > he was Thakur Ramkrishna in the previous birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Utpal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shiv " > > > > <theblisswithin@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashwinji > > > > > > > > > This is a very good and inspiring thread. > > > > > > > > > I would like to mention something that may be an > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > insight. > > > > > > > > > You mentioned Pt Shriram Sharma Acharya. He actually > said > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > autobiography ( Hamari Virasat aur Vasiyat, My > > > Inheritances > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Will, > > > > > > > > > loosely translated) that once when he was 14 years > old > > > and > > > > > > sitting > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > his Morning Sandhya, a divine figure appeared, guru > > > > > > > > > Sarweshwaranandji. His Guru then made him realise his > > > past > > > > > > lives > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > gave him the work for this life. > > > > > > > > > He took him back as in a flash to the past. He > realised > > > > that > > > > > > he had > > > > > > > > > been born as Thakur, before that Saint Kabir and > before > > > > that > > > > > > Guru > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Chatrapati Shivaji, Guru Ramdass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to locate the exact link and send it.The > > > general > > > > > > site is > > > > > > > > > www.awgp.org I remember the book is there on pdf in > > > English > > > > > > > > somewhere > > > > > > > > > online. It's in the very first few chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ashwin Rawal > > > > > > <ashwinrawal@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, I would like to share one of my great > Devine > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > > about shri Ramkrishnadev. This is an unbelievable > > > > experience > > > > > > that I > > > > > > > > > have had. I have not added anything from my own. I am > > > > > writing > > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > as was happened in my life. I am going back to the > period > > > > of > > > > > > > > 1973/74. > > > > > > > > > Kindly read this only when you are in religious mood. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I was working as telegraphist at Okha Port Post > office > > > > > near > > > > > > > > Dwarka. > > > > > > > > > My duty was from 7 am to 7 pm and I was getting late > fee > > > > > > allowance > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > extra duty. There was a Telephone exchange just > opposite > > > to > > > > > > Post > > > > > > > > > office and due to same Dep’t; I had friendship with > > > some > > > > > > > > Telephone > > > > > > > > > operators. One Mr. Ramanbhai Patel, (we will call him > as > > > > Mr. > > > > > > Patel) > > > > > > > > > was working as Operator. He was a staunch devotee > > > of   > > > > > shri > > > > > > > > > Ramkrishnadev. Whenever I was meeting him he was > always > > > > > > talking > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > shri Thakur. We came close day by day. There was a > weekly > > > > > > > > gathering at > > > > > > > > > his home called SATSANGA. He was singing devotional > songs > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > him and was weeping while singing. He was reading > > > Ramkrishna > > > > > > > > > Kathamrita. We 10 to 12 youngsters were attending > this > > > > > weekly > > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > > > on Saturday evening. I was then 24 years old. Mr. > Patel > > > was > > > > > of > > > > > > 30 > > > > > > > > > then. We were used to go to seashore daily at 7 pm > after > > > > > duty > > > > > > hours > > > > > > > > > and were talking only about Thakur. > > > > > > > > > > One day when we were at sea shore he suddenly told > me-- > > > > > > > > “Rawalbhai, > > > > > > > > > some guest have come to my home and my wife is > > > remembering > > > > > me. > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > son > > > > > > > > > will come in a few minutes to call me. I shall have > to go > > > > > > nowâ€. - > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > And with my surprise his 8 years old son came to call > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > At one another incident he told me that there will > be a > > > > > > plane > > > > > > > > crash > > > > > > > > > tomorrow and that also happened. I was very much > > > impressed > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > He could foresee the events. One day I had to go to > > > Dwarka > > > > > by > > > > > > Bus, > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > told me not to go through bus, as bus tire will be > > > > > punctured. > > > > > > Yet I > > > > > > > > > went to Bus station but bus did not come from Dwarka > as > > > was > > > > > > > > punctured > > > > > > > > > on the way. This was surprising. > > > > > > > > > > This all incidents made me to believe that he had > some > > > > > super > > > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > and this was due to Ramkrishandev worship only. I was > > > > > > attracted to > > > > > > > > > shri Thakur. One day I thought, I should also be > disciple > > > > of > > > > > > shri > > > > > > > > > Thakur and the day came. It was 4/4/1974. At 7 pm I > > > > > > surrendered > > > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > to Thakur at Mr. Patel’s house before Thakur > picture. I > > > > > > prayed > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > deeply from my heart to accept me as his follower and > > > > bestow > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > > Next day morning I had a discussion with my wife at > > > 6.10 > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > while taking the tea. As my duty was to start from 7 > am I > > > > > was > > > > > > > > waking > > > > > > > > > up at 5.45 morning. I told to my wife in the morning > that > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > accepted Shri Ramkrishnadev as my Gurudev. My wife > was > > > > > annoyed > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > argued with me a lot. �� " “Why should you take > such > > > a > > > > > > hasty > > > > > > > > decision? > > > > > > > > > Ramkrishna Paramhamsa was a devotee of Maa Kali at > > > > Calcutta. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > was a > > > > > > > > > great Saint but our Guru should be living one, who > can > > > > guide > > > > > > us, > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > us Mantra etc. etc. Better you take Dixa from Shri > Ram > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > Acharya > > > > > > > > > since you are doing Gayatri Mantraâ€--. > > > > > > > > > > Her arguments were right at her place as people in > > > > general > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > much about Thakur and I was confused. I thought-- yes > I > > > > have > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > hasty decision. I was in the influence of Mr. Patel. - > - > > > > > > > > > > But I remember that Mr. Patel had told me that > Thakur > > > was > > > > > > telling > > > > > > > > > their disciples to test him before accepting him. I > also > > > > > > decided to > > > > > > > > > test Thakur. I immediately told my wife that > > > �� " “See, > > > > > > Mr. Patel > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > never come to our home. You have also not seen him. > He > > > has > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > asked > > > > > > > > > me where I am living. Suppose Mr. Patel is coming to > our > > > > > house > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > 10 to 15 minutes, would you believe that my selection > for > > > > > > Thakur is > > > > > > > > > perfect?â€-- > > > > > > > > > > She laughed at me�� " “How it is possible? I > > > don’t > > > > > > believe.â€- > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > I prayed Shri Thakur to send Mr. Patel immediately > to > > > > > > justify my > > > > > > > > > decision and convince my wife. ‘I want to test your > > > > > > existence > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > today.’ > > > > > > > > > > To our great surprise, Mr. Patel was at my home at > > > 06.30 > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > morning with angry mood. What he told? > > > > > > > > > > ‘ How dare you test Thakur this way? Do you know > what > > > > > > happened? > > > > > > > > > Yesterday was my night duty and I had just come to my > > > home > > > > > at > > > > > > 05.30 > > > > > > > > > mornings today and tried to sleep for 1 or 2 hours. > > > > Suddenly > > > > > > Thakur > > > > > > > > > pulled my blanket and told me that-“ Go to your > > > > friend’s > > > > > > > > house. He > > > > > > > > > is waiting for you. He wants to test me. I will show > you > > > > his > > > > > > > > house†> > > > > > > > > > I immediately rushed to your home. Thakur was > guiding > > > me > > > > > the > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > your house and pushing me too. What you want? Why you > are > > > > > > > > disturbing > > > > > > > > > him in such an early morning for such a silly things? > ’ > > > > > > > > > > We both were so excited and surprised that we had > no > > > > words > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Morning. > > > > > > > > > > I will never forget that 5th April, a miracle day > in my > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > were some more Devine experiences about Shri Thakur > but I > > > > > will > > > > > > > > write > > > > > > > > > it sometime. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, and forum members, Ramkrishandev is still > > > alive > > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > earth. This is a fact I have written and no word is > added > > > to > > > > > > > > > exaggerate. May Shri Thakur bless all of us. > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Ashwin Rawal Ahmedabad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > > > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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