Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste, I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this Regards Vinayak P Tandle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Namaste, Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time.. So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing to elders. It is incorrect to say that "all of elder's punyas" are transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that "all of youngster's sins" are transferred then. However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person. It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy. Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that, I mentally say "sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu" and imagine that the obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra of the two hands. Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But, when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed "sir, we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He definitely knows how to take away some energy from people." I had not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his independent conclusion after the same experience as mine! I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the feeling that some energy left me. There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take? All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as one's own? * * * My simple bottomline advice is this: If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna (or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the karma/energy calculations out and do not worry. At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet, just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - vinayak tandle ; sohamsa Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste, I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this Regards Vinayak P Tandle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste, Thank you for the elaboration, the concept is now clear. Regards Vinayak P Tandle--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:47 AM Namaste, Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time.. So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing to elders. It is incorrect to say that "all of elder's punyas" are transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that "all of youngster's sins" are transferred then. However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person. It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy. Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that, I mentally say "sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu" and imagine that the obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra of the two hands. Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But, when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed "sir, we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He definitely knows how to take away some energy from people." I had not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his independent conclusion after the same experience as mine! I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the feeling that some energy left me. There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take? All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as one's own? * * * My simple bottomline advice is this: If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna (or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the karma/energy calculations out and do not worry. At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet, just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key. Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - vinayak tandle ; sohamsa@ .com Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste, I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this Regards Vinayak P Tandle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Namaste though what you said about rina in this right but the point is how to find that rina and if we leave thta thing to nature then ,aqs far as i remember,in AUTOBIGRAPHY OF A YOGI Paramhansa Yogananga ji says that hisGURU Swami Yukteshwar even fought cases with the people who were eyeing the land on which they built their ashram So it makes a little bit of contratdiction Please clarify it a bit further regards jitender , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time.. > > So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing to elders. It is incorrect to say that " all of elder's punyas " are transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that " all of youngster's sins " are transferred then. > > However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person. > > It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy. Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that, I mentally say " sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu " and imagine that the obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra of the two hands. > > Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But, when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed " sir, we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He definitely knows how to take away some energy from people. " I had not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his independent conclusion after the same experience as mine! > > I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the feeling that some energy left me. > > There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take? All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as one's own? > > * * * > > My simple bottomline advice is this: > > If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna (or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the karma/energy calculations out and do not worry. > > At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet, just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). > > A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > - > vinayak tandle > ; sohamsa > Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM > CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE > > > Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste, > > I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this > > Regards > > Vinayak P Tandle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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