Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste,

 

I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this

 

Regards

 

Vinayak P Tandle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Namaste,

 

Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time..

 

So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing to elders. It is incorrect to say that "all of elder's punyas" are transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that "all of youngster's sins" are transferred then.

 

However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person.

 

It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy. Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that, I mentally say "sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu" and imagine that the obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra of the two hands.

 

Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But, when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed "sir, we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He definitely knows how to take away some energy from people." I had not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his independent conclusion after the same experience as mine!

 

I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the feeling that some energy left me.

 

There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take? All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as one's own?

 

* * *

 

My simple bottomline advice is this:

 

If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna (or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the karma/energy calculations out and do not worry.

 

At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet, just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva).

 

A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

-

vinayak tandle

; sohamsa

Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM

CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE

 

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste,

 

I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this

 

Regards

 

Vinayak P Tandle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste,

 

Thank you for the elaboration, the concept is now clear.

 

Regards

 

Vinayak P Tandle--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Re: CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:47 AM

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time..

 

So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing to elders. It is incorrect to say that "all of elder's punyas" are transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that "all of youngster's sins" are transferred then.

 

However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person.

 

It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy. Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that, I mentally say "sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu" and imagine that the obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra of the two hands.

 

Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But, when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed "sir, we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He definitely knows how to take away some energy from people." I had not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his independent conclusion after the same experience as mine!

 

I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the feeling that some energy left me.

 

There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take? All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as one's own?

 

* * *

 

My simple bottomline advice is this:

 

If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna (or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the karma/energy calculations out and do not worry.

 

At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet, just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva).

 

A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key.

 

Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

 

-

vinayak tandle

; sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM

CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE

 

 

 

 

 

 

Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste,

 

I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please shed light on this

 

Regards

 

Vinayak P Tandle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Namaste

 

though what you said about rina in this right

but the point is how to find that rina

 

and if we leave thta thing to nature

then ,aqs far as i remember,in AUTOBIGRAPHY OF A YOGI

Paramhansa Yogananga ji says that hisGURU Swami Yukteshwar

even fought cases with the people who were eyeing the land on which

they built their ashram

 

So it makes a little bit of contratdiction

Please clarify it a bit further

 

regards

jitender

 

 

, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> Every tradition has a valid basis, but also corrupted in time..

>

> So many people touch the feet with hands or forehead when bowing

to elders. It is incorrect to say that " all of elder's punyas " are

transferred then. So many people touch the head of youngsters with

hand to bless. It is incorrect to say that " all of youngster's sins "

are transferred then.

>

> However, this belief is not without a basis. When a person touches

the feet of a person with awakened energy, *some* transfer of energy

occurs automatically, whether or not one is aware (that is why we

have the tradition of touching the feet of saints). However, how

much energy gets transferred is dependent on the capabilities of the

two persons, the strength of the desire in the two persons for (or

against) the transfer and the previous rina between the person.

>

> It is not necessary to touch the feet of a person with the

forehead. It is possible to touch with hands and receive energy.

Once one young man came to my Jyotish class in Boston and touched my

feet at the end to take blessings. Normally, when people to do that,

I mentally say " sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamastu " and imagine that the

obeisance is going to Lord Krishna. But, this time, I could clearly

feel some energy leaving me. It was a very tangible feeling. This

person touched specific spots in the two feet with a specific mudra

of the two hands.

>

> Of course, one can dismiss my feeling as a hallucination. But,

when the same young man came to a Satya Narayana vratam at my house

later in the week and touched the feet of a very good priest who

came from India (the same one who I said performed the first Chandi

homam at my house, arranged for the shata Chandi homam in Chennai

and had books on homam gifted to us), he immediately exclaimed " sir,

we have to be careful with this boy! He seems to do some sadhana. He

definitely knows how to take away some energy from people. " I had

not told him what I had experienced a few days back and this was his

independent conclusion after the same experience as mine!

>

> I am convinced that some enegy give and take happens when feet and

head are touched for blessings. However, it requires a certain level

of ability and purity to receive energy from someone by touching

feet. So many people touched my feet. Only a handful gave me the

feeling that some energy left me.

>

> There is another way to look at this. If a person gets something

from me, it is probably because there is some rina. Why should I try

to resist a payback of rina? Who are we anyway to give or to take?

All the energy deposited in all the beings of this universe is Hers

anyway. Why should one look at the energy deposited in oneself as

one's own?

>

> * * *

>

> My simple bottomline advice is this:

>

> If someone pays obeisance to you, let them do it. Do not feel

proud or superior when someone touches your feet. Think that Krishna

(or Shiva) in him is paying obeisance to Krishna (or Shiva) in you

and offer it to Krishna (or Shiva). When you touch the feet of

someone, feel humble and think that the person you are bowing to is

a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva). Leave the rest of the

karma/energy calculations out and do not worry.

>

> At the same time, if someone does not let you touch his/her feet,

just bow to them and pay obeisance in the mind without a physical

touch. You can still feel humble and think that the person you are

bowing to is a limited manifestation of Krishna (or Shiva).

>

> A lot of this is in the mind and controlling the mind is the key.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> -

> vinayak tandle

> ; sohamsa

> Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:51 AM

> CHARAN SPARSH OBEISANCE

>

>

> Adarniya Narasimha Guruji Namaste,

>

> I had arranged for the first time Chandi Homam at my house

on Friday. The Brahmin priest did a excellent pooja. During Durga

swaroopini Kanya(small girl 7 years old) poojan I asked her to take

her feet out so that I could touch the her feet with my forehead to

offer my obeisance & I normally do touch the feet with my fore head

during the Namaskar. The Brahmin Pujari prevented me from touching

the feet of girl as well as his feet with my forehead saying that if

a person touches the feet of a guru/elder with forehead all the

punya of the Guru/Elder will transfer to me & incase the Guru keeps

his hand on my head all his sins will be transfered to me. Please

shed light on this

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...