Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Namaste, Yes, you can. Take a sankalpa for Ucchishta Ganapathi homam and Sri Lakshmi homam. Invoke Ucchishta Ganapathi in fire, do panchopachara pooja, offer the chosen mantra of his as many times as you want and then offer him some naivedyam/food (fruit piece or something). Then invoke Lakshmi in the same fire, do a panchopachara pooja, offer her chosen mantra as many times as you want and offer her some naivedyam/food. Then do uttarangam and poornahuti. At the time of poornahuti, you can say the main mantras of both devatas and offer poornaahuti. I have seen some priests actually take sankalpam for only one homam and make offerings to other deities also, without a formal invocation. In other words, you take sankalpam for Ganapathi only and, after finishing his mantra, you simply pour ahutis in fire for Lakshmi (or other deities). That is also fine. When you receive a VIP at your house, you may follow a protocol (e.g. greet him at the door, walk him inside, make him sit down in a sofa, offer some refreshments, chat for a while, serve some food, send off formally etc). When you receive two VIPs together, you can treat them together or separately and use different level of formality with them. The level of formality and protocol to be followed really depends on how comfortable you are with them and how well you know them. Thus, some shortcuts resorted to be some priests may be somewhat inappropriate for normal people in the beginning. Thus, it is a good idea to formally invoke each deity. If you want to offer a specific mantra for a very small count, it is perhaps ok to offer without an invocation. * * * Some priests give multiple poornaahutis. After finishing Ganapathi mantra, they give one poornaahuti and they give one more after finishing Lakshmi mantra and give one final "Maha Poornahuti" at the very end. As poornaahuti means "complete surrender" and it is like a river going and merging in an ocean, I think multiple poornaahutis are not really needed. When you give one poornaahuti at the end, gods are not going to be confused who it is meant for and fight over it. They know that it is for the underlying one god within them. What is important is to instill a true sense of complete surrender at poornaahuti time and meditate deeply. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Dr. Paul om Friday, October 03, 2008 12:07 PM Re: Right deity and sadhana (Re: Yogananda) Hare Rama Krishna Dear Narasimha Ji, Pranaam, Is there any way i can do a homam for Uschishtha ganesha and godess lakshmi together. I want to do one on thi sunday. Please guide. Thanks in advance Omesh Hare Rama Krishna On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Ashwin Rawal <ashwinrawal wrote: Dear Narsimhaji, You mentioned the appearance of mother before you. Can you kindly clarify which mother? you mean Sharda devi (Thakurain Ma) or Goddess Durga ? Kindly answer this immediately as I am excited to know this trutth about homa.Dr.Ashwin Rawal--- On Thu, 2/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Right deity and sadhana (Re: Yogananda) Cc: sivacharya Date: Thursday, 2 October, 2008, 4:21 AM Namaste,Choosing the right deity for sadhana is important. If you do not know the right deity, just doing some sadhana is definitely better than waiting. Pick whatever deity seems natural to you and do sadhana.Please remember that sadhana for spiritual progress is different from sadhana for specific material benefits. No matter which deity you worship, sadhana performed for spiritual progress never goes waste. However, sometimes it may be necessary to experience the results of some bad karmas before some good things happen. Imagine all your karmas lying in a pile in a basket. Suppose some of the really good karmas that will enable you to do serious sadhana and experience great things lie at the bottom or middle of the pile. When you start sadhana, suppose god decides to give you the fruits of those auspicious karmas. Imagine him reaching into the pile and retrieving those karmas. In the process, some other karmas may spill over and give their fruits. Some of those may be undesirable. So what? They had to be experienced sometime or the other, anyway!A serious sadhaka should never be disheartened by a few seemingly undesirable results after starting a spiritual sadhana. Just keep going.One gentleman I know received mantra for Kaali from a very good priest-cum-yogi in late 2005. After he did the mantra for a few days, he was laid off and lost his job. He was not perturbed. He continued his sadhana and used the break to go on an extended trip to India and make a pilgrimage to some nice places. He participated in the Shata Chandi homam we conducted at the Kaalikambal temple in Chennai in March 2006. He met my guru and got the opportunity to be his room mate for a week when we stayed at the house of a priest during the homam. He could observe and interact with my guru very closely. Most importantly, when my guru had a vision of the Mother on 2006 March 3 afternoon, in which She told him to start the work on spreading homam in the world, this gentleman was present there. Though he could not see the Mother, he actually smelled something out of the world and was baffled. He knew something was going on, but did not know what. The temple was closed at the time and my guru and this gentlemen were the only people on the premises when the Mother appeared. Even though he could not see the Mother, it was most fortunate of him to be present there at *that* crucial moment. That is enough to mould the rest of his life.You never know how, when and where the grace of god falls on you. Calculations and logic are useless when it comes to the grace of god. Just surrender and keep doing whatever sadhana you picked. If it needs fine-tuning, somebody will appear to tell you that. Any bad things that happen when doing a spiritual sadhana should be viewed as nature settling some debts so that you are prepared to receive the fruits of some really auspicious karmas.As Shirdi Sai Baba says, you should have "sraddha and saburi". Have devotion and patience. There is no limit to what you can get then.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - > Namaste Sir> what you said makes a lot sense and it was marvellous> but i have some small doubts>> Leaving astrology aside and those who do not have a guru> how can they chooose a particular form of GOD> bcoz in second part of AGHORA, Vimalanda, said choosing right deity> is very important, as the analogy he gave of a person> who is greedy and worships LAKSHMI , may increase his greed>> One thing more> we have so many deities that on diwali i would like to worship> Lakshmi and Kali> in navaratri (nowadays) we would worship Durga> on janmashtami we would fast for KRISHNA> an on MAHASHIVARATRI for SHIVA> like this> with hte change in festival the deity changes>> though everybody knows GOD is ONE but it becomes difficult to get> out of this> mould and if i didnt worship her may be that GOD/GODDESS may become> angry>> I Know,this is my foolishness but stiil this thing hangs in the mind>> One thing more>> Suppose if i choose a deity and something wrong happens> (materiallistically )>> what should i consider that my deity was helping me to clear my> DEBTS/WRONG DEEDS> or the NATURE was telling me to change the DEITY as I am not fit> for that DEITY>> and sometimes you feel> o what am i doing does this really works>> and one thing more>> what if we go on doing our pooja and someday> something like what happened to Pt. GOPI KRISHNA JI> happens to us also> though he says in his book that he read a lot about yoga> and stuff like this>> At any stage i do not want you people to get offended> but these are my doubts which are there in my mind>> i will not say much now bcoz in> Swami Sivananda's KUNDALINI YOGA on the last page he says>> "the shastras are endless and there is so much to be known> turn the gaze. draw the indriyas.still the mind.then> dive deep into the divine source and realise the infinite bliss">> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***> *> i ll give one small personal example here>> around 26 or 27 dec.2007 i started chanting 2 mantras (one kar mala> each)> in morning and evening> and on 9 january 2008 my parents met an accident> though my father suffered small injuries my mother suffred fracture> in shoulder and Leg>> and she is still undergoing treatment and will have to> undergo one more operation in this month>> and in February and March i got placement in> 2 companies (i m doing MCA in india) where most of my friends have> not> even got one and let me tell you i m not very intelligent>> so sometimes even now i consider whether my choosen deity is correct> or not>> so everyday in the end of my pooja what i ask GOD is> to help me find the right path> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***> **>> regards> jitender>> , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"> <pvr wrote:>>>> Namaste,>>>> > Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these>> > supremely elevated souls!>>>> Earlier, I was exerting discretion in sharing personal accounts,> but She has>> been making me drop guard of late, for whatever reason. I will> continue in>> the same vein for a little more time.>>>> I had a dream a couple of years ago early in the morning. In the> dream,>> there was a big ritual fire. My guru Manish Pandit and I were> sitting in>> front of the fire. He was teaching me some pranayama techniques in> the>> dream. Suddenly, he changed into somebody else that I could not> recognize.>> It was not anybody I had seen before.>>>> I mentioned this dream to my guru after a couple of weeks. First> he said he>> did not know who the other person was and said he would've> probably known if>> I had mentioned the dream soon after it had happened. I left it> there.>> However, when we talked in the next weekend, he referred to my> dream and>> said he had an idea who it was. He gave me a name and asked me to> search on>> the internet for his photo and see if he was the person I saw in> my dream.>> It was a guru from the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda (before> him). Though>> he is apparently well-known, I was not knowledegable about this> lineage and>> did not see his picture before. I searched on the internet and> found a>> photo. Interestingly, the photo was very close to the person I saw> in my>> dream. The person that Manish transformed into in my dream looked> like a>> slightly younger version of that photo.>>>> When I confirmed this to Manish, he only smiled and> said, "Narasimha, there>> are so many links between various lineages. Leave it for now.">>>> Of course, I do not know much about kriya yoga or about the> lineage of>> Paramahamsa Yogananda. Our lineage of this life starts from> Dattatreya. We>> have a special attachment to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and his> lineage and got>> a lot of our knowledge, inspiration and perhaps experience from> them. We do>> not have any direct link to the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda.> But,>> Manish thought there were some other indirect links. Moreover, he> guessed>> who I saw, even though I myself had no idea who I saw, and he> guessed>> correctly. That should count for something!>>>> I will not be surprised if there are indeed subtle connections> between>> several lineages that seem disjoint today.>>>> By the way, Swami Vivekananda also appeared in the prison cell of> Sri>> Aurobindo (who wrote brilliant commentaries on Veda and Upanishad)> and>> imparted him some Adwaita knowledge to Sri Aurobindo.>>>> * * *>>>> An interesting coincidence is that a swamiji from Puri contacted> me within a>> few days after I saw that photo. His guru and Paramahamsa> Yogananda were>> co-disciples of the same guru (Yukteshwar Maharaj). He is the> keeper of>> some astrological knowledge that his guru received from Yukteshwar> Maharaj.>> He visited me after a month, discussed that knowledge and spent a> day at my>> house. Thus, some small connection was made with a representative> of that>> lineage soon after the dream. After all, some karmik debts may> have been>> there...>>>> * * *>>>> I want to make one thing clear.>>>> Some things I mention like this may give the impression that my> guru has>> some psychic abilities or siddhis. That may indeed be true. But he> always>> downplays those things and attaches no importance whatsoever. He> says,>> "Narasimha, I am a useless person and lower than dirt and capable> of>> nothing. It is all Her power. She is the connection between every> entity in>> this universe. She may choose an idiot like me as an instrument> sometimes>> and do something using me. I have no special abilities of any> kind. Any>> coincidences you find are just Her grace and not due to me.">>>> I realized in time that this simplicity, humility and lack of ego> is not>> fake. I also realized that this lack of ego is what enabled him to> do things>> that sound impossible or difficult. In fact, I realized that many> great>> saints in the past were like this. Several magical things happened> through>> them, but they did not find any pride in them and retained their> humility>> and sense of surrender to their chosen form of god and believed> that god>> was the doer of all things and they were mere instruments.>>>> The day you also start believing that, not for the sake of> lecturing or>> posturing, but from the deep cores of your heart, your sadhana> will bear>> fruit.>>>> Best regards,>> Narasimha>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ->> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam>> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana >> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom>> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net>> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org>> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - >>>> - >> "Dinesh Nambisan" <dinesh>> <>>> Monday, September 29, 2008 5:54 PM>> Yogananda (Re: Dharma)>>>>>> , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@>>> wrote:>> >>> > Dear Lakshmi,>> >>> > The Yogananda I mentioned is different. Swami Yogananda is one of>> the sixteen monastic disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, along> with>> Swami Vivekananda. He was forced to marry, but never slept with his>> own wife. Swami Vivekananda once said "if any of us (disciples of>> Ramakrishna) conquered lust completely and in all respects, it is>> Joginder (Swami Yogananda)". There is no question of Swami> Yogananda>> being accused of drinking and having women etc.>> >>> > Paramahamsa Yogananda is a sishya of Yukteshwar Maharaj and from> the>> lineage of Mahavatar Babaji. They practice kriya yoga. I do not> know>> much about him.>>>>>>>> For what it is worth, you can read more about Paramahamsa> Yogananda in>> his free+online autobiography,>> here http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi >>>> There were interesting links between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and>> Paramahamsa Yogananda:->> For example, one of the top disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa> was>> Mahendranath Gupta (not sure if he was one of the 16 monastic>> disciples that Narasimhaji refers to) aka Master Mahasaya, who> wrote>> "The Gospel of Ramakrishna">> (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Mahendranath_ Gupta), and was the>> sanskrit tutor to Paramahamsa Yogananda as well; the latter> devoted an>> entire chapter to him in his>> book :> http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi/ Chapter_9 >>>> Elsewhere in his autobiography Paramhamsa Yogananda also mentions> an>> anecdote of a disciple to whom he gifted a silver cup, who as a> young>> man was told by Swami Vivekandana that the Guru in his life would>> present him with a silver cup in the future.>> http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi/ Chapter_47 >>>> Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these>> supremely elevated souls!>>>> Best. 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Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Narasinha JI, Namaskar, Thanks a lot for your kind guidance. Regards Omesh Hare Rama Krishna On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Namaste, Yes, you can. Take a sankalpa for Ucchishta Ganapathi homam and Sri Lakshmi homam. Invoke Ucchishta Ganapathi in fire, do panchopachara pooja, offer the chosen mantra of his as many times as you want and then offer him some naivedyam/food (fruit piece or something). Then invoke Lakshmi in the same fire, do a panchopachara pooja, offer her chosen mantra as many times as you want and offer her some naivedyam/food. Then do uttarangam and poornahuti. At the time of poornahuti, you can say the main mantras of both devatas and offer poornaahuti. I have seen some priests actually take sankalpam for only one homam and make offerings to other deities also, without a formal invocation. In other words, you take sankalpam for Ganapathi only and, after finishing his mantra, you simply pour ahutis in fire for Lakshmi (or other deities). That is also fine. When you receive a VIP at your house, you may follow a protocol (e.g. greet him at the door, walk him inside, make him sit down in a sofa, offer some refreshments, chat for a while, serve some food, send off formally etc). When you receive two VIPs together, you can treat them together or separately and use different level of formality with them. The level of formality and protocol to be followed really depends on how comfortable you are with them and how well you know them. Thus, some shortcuts resorted to be some priests may be somewhat inappropriate for normal people in the beginning. Thus, it is a good idea to formally invoke each deity. If you want to offer a specific mantra for a very small count, it is perhaps ok to offer without an invocation. * * * Some priests give multiple poornaahutis. After finishing Ganapathi mantra, they give one poornaahuti and they give one more after finishing Lakshmi mantra and give one final " Maha Poornahuti " at the very end. As poornaahuti means " complete surrender " and it is like a river going and merging in an ocean, I think multiple poornaahutis are not really needed. When you give one poornaahuti at the end, gods are not going to be confused who it is meant for and fight over it. They know that it is for the underlying one god within them. What is important is to instill a true sense of complete surrender at poornaahuti time and meditate deeply. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org - Dr. Paul om Friday, October 03, 2008 12:07 PM Re: Right deity and sadhana (Re: Yogananda) Hare Rama Krishna Dear Narasimha Ji, Pranaam, Is there any way i can do a homam for Uschishtha ganesha and godess lakshmi together. I want to do one on thi sunday. Please guide. Thanks in advance Omesh Hare Rama Krishna On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Ashwin Rawal <ashwinrawal wrote: Dear Narsimhaji, You mentioned the appearance of mother before you. Can you kindly clarify which mother? you mean Sharda devi (Thakurain Ma) or Goddess Durga ? Kindly answer this immediately as I am excited to know this trutth about homa. Dr.Ashwin Rawal--- On Thu, 2/10/08, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr Right deity and sadhana (Re: Yogananda) Cc: sivacharya Date: Thursday, 2 October, 2008, 4:21 AM Namaste,Choosing the right deity for sadhana is important. If you do not know the right deity, just doing some sadhana is definitely better than waiting. Pick whatever deity seems natural to you and do sadhana. Please remember that sadhana for spiritual progress is different from sadhana for specific material benefits. No matter which deity you worship, sadhana performed for spiritual progress never goes waste. However, sometimes it may be necessary to experience the results of some bad karmas before some good things happen. Imagine all your karmas lying in a pile in a basket. Suppose some of the really good karmas that will enable you to do serious sadhana and experience great things lie at the bottom or middle of the pile. When you start sadhana, suppose god decides to give you the fruits of those auspicious karmas. Imagine him reaching into the pile and retrieving those karmas. In the process, some other karmas may spill over and give their fruits. Some of those may be undesirable. So what? They had to be experienced sometime or the other, anyway!A serious sadhaka should never be disheartened by a few seemingly undesirable results after starting a spiritual sadhana. Just keep going.One gentleman I know received mantra for Kaali from a very good priest-cum-yogi in late 2005. After he did the mantra for a few days, he was laid off and lost his job. He was not perturbed. He continued his sadhana and used the break to go on an extended trip to India and make a pilgrimage to some nice places. He participated in the Shata Chandi homam we conducted at the Kaalikambal temple in Chennai in March 2006. He met my guru and got the opportunity to be his room mate for a week when we stayed at the house of a priest during the homam. He could observe and interact with my guru very closely. Most importantly, when my guru had a vision of the Mother on 2006 March 3 afternoon, in which She told him to start the work on spreading homam in the world, this gentleman was present there. Though he could not see the Mother, he actually smelled something out of the world and was baffled. He knew something was going on, but did not know what. The temple was closed at the time and my guru and this gentlemen were the only people on the premises when the Mother appeared. Even though he could not see the Mother, it was most fortunate of him to be present there at *that* crucial moment. That is enough to mould the rest of his life.You never know how, when and where the grace of god falls on you. Calculations and logic are useless when it comes to the grace of god. Just surrender and keep doing whatever sadhana you picked. If it needs fine-tuning, somebody will appear to tell you that. Any bad things that happen when doing a spiritual sadhana should be viewed as nature settling some debts so that you are prepared to receive the fruits of some really auspicious karmas.As Shirdi Sai Baba says, you should have " sraddha and saburi " . Have devotion and patience. There is no limit to what you can get then.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - - > Namaste Sir> what you said makes a lot sense and it was marvellous> but i have some small doubts >> Leaving astrology aside and those who do not have a guru> how can they chooose a particular form of GOD> bcoz in second part of AGHORA, Vimalanda, said choosing right deity> is very important, as the analogy he gave of a person > who is greedy and worships LAKSHMI , may increase his greed>> One thing more> we have so many deities that on diwali i would like to worship> Lakshmi and Kali> in navaratri (nowadays) we would worship Durga > on janmashtami we would fast for KRISHNA> an on MAHASHIVARATRI for SHIVA> like this> with hte change in festival the deity changes>> though everybody knows GOD is ONE but it becomes difficult to get > out of this> mould and if i didnt worship her may be that GOD/GODDESS may become> angry>> I Know,this is my foolishness but stiil this thing hangs in the mind>> One thing more >> Suppose if i choose a deity and something wrong happens> (materiallistically )>> what should i consider that my deity was helping me to clear my> DEBTS/WRONG DEEDS> or the NATURE was telling me to change the DEITY as I am not fit > for that DEITY>> and sometimes you feel> o what am i doing does this really works>> and one thing more>> what if we go on doing our pooja and someday> something like what happened to Pt. GOPI KRISHNA JI > happens to us also> though he says in his book that he read a lot about yoga> and stuff like this>> At any stage i do not want you people to get offended> but these are my doubts which are there in my mind >> i will not say much now bcoz in> Swami Sivananda's KUNDALINI YOGA on the last page he says>> " the shastras are endless and there is so much to be known> turn the gaze. draw the indriyas.still the mind.then > dive deep into the divine source and realise the infinite bliss " >> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***> *> i ll give one small personal example here >> around 26 or 27 dec.2007 i started chanting 2 mantras (one kar mala> each)> in morning and evening> and on 9 january 2008 my parents met an accident> though my father suffered small injuries my mother suffred fracture > in shoulder and Leg>> and she is still undergoing treatment and will have to> undergo one more operation in this month>> and in February and March i got placement in> 2 companies (i m doing MCA in india) where most of my friends have > not> even got one and let me tell you i m not very intelligent>> so sometimes even now i consider whether my choosen deity is correct> or not>> so everyday in the end of my pooja what i ask GOD is > to help me find the right path> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***> **>> regards> jitender>> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " > <pvr wrote:>>>> Namaste,>>>> > Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these>> > supremely elevated souls!>>>> Earlier, I was exerting discretion in sharing personal accounts, > but She has>> been making me drop guard of late, for whatever reason. I will> continue in>> the same vein for a little more time.>>>> I had a dream a couple of years ago early in the morning. In the > dream,>> there was a big ritual fire. My guru Manish Pandit and I were> sitting in>> front of the fire. He was teaching me some pranayama techniques in> the>> dream. Suddenly, he changed into somebody else that I could not > recognize.>> It was not anybody I had seen before.>>>> I mentioned this dream to my guru after a couple of weeks. First> he said he>> did not know who the other person was and said he would've > probably known if>> I had mentioned the dream soon after it had happened. I left it> there.>> However, when we talked in the next weekend, he referred to my> dream and>> said he had an idea who it was. He gave me a name and asked me to > search on>> the internet for his photo and see if he was the person I saw in> my dream.>> It was a guru from the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda (before> him). Though>> he is apparently well-known, I was not knowledegable about this > lineage and>> did not see his picture before. I searched on the internet and> found a>> photo. Interestingly, the photo was very close to the person I saw> in my>> dream. The person that Manish transformed into in my dream looked > like a>> slightly younger version of that photo.>>>> When I confirmed this to Manish, he only smiled and> said, " Narasimha, there>> are so many links between various lineages. Leave it for now. " >>>> Of course, I do not know much about kriya yoga or about the> lineage of>> Paramahamsa Yogananda. Our lineage of this life starts from> Dattatreya. We>> have a special attachment to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and his > lineage and got>> a lot of our knowledge, inspiration and perhaps experience from> them. We do>> not have any direct link to the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda.> But,>> Manish thought there were some other indirect links. Moreover, he > guessed>> who I saw, even though I myself had no idea who I saw, and he> guessed>> correctly. That should count for something!>>>> I will not be surprised if there are indeed subtle connections > between>> several lineages that seem disjoint today.>>>> By the way, Swami Vivekananda also appeared in the prison cell of> Sri>> Aurobindo (who wrote brilliant commentaries on Veda and Upanishad) > and>> imparted him some Adwaita knowledge to Sri Aurobindo.>>>> * * *>>>> An interesting coincidence is that a swamiji from Puri contacted> me within a>> few days after I saw that photo. His guru and Paramahamsa > Yogananda were>> co-disciples of the same guru (Yukteshwar Maharaj). He is the> keeper of>> some astrological knowledge that his guru received from Yukteshwar> Maharaj.>> He visited me after a month, discussed that knowledge and spent a > day at my>> house. Thus, some small connection was made with a representative> of that>> lineage soon after the dream. After all, some karmik debts may> have been>> there... >>>> * * *>>>> I want to make one thing clear.>>>> Some things I mention like this may give the impression that my> guru has>> some psychic abilities or siddhis. That may indeed be true. But he > always>> downplays those things and attaches no importance whatsoever. He> says,>> " Narasimha, I am a useless person and lower than dirt and capable> of>> nothing. It is all Her power. She is the connection between every > entity in>> this universe. She may choose an idiot like me as an instrument> sometimes>> and do something using me. I have no special abilities of any> kind. Any>> coincidences you find are just Her grace and not due to me. " >>>> I realized in time that this simplicity, humility and lack of ego> is not>> fake. I also realized that this lack of ego is what enabled him to> do things>> that sound impossible or difficult. In fact, I realized that many > great>> saints in the past were like this. Several magical things happened> through>> them, but they did not find any pride in them and retained their> humility>> and sense of surrender to their chosen form of god and believed > that god>> was the doer of all things and they were mere instruments.>>>> The day you also start believing that, not for the sake of> lecturing or>> posturing, but from the deep cores of your heart, your sadhana > will bear>> fruit.>>>> Best regards,>> Narasimha>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ->> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam >> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana >> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom>> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net >> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org>> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - >>>> - >> " Dinesh Nambisan " <dinesh>> <> >> Monday, September 29, 2008 5:54 PM>> Yogananda (Re: Dharma)>>>>>> , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> >> wrote:>> >>> > Dear Lakshmi,>> >>> > The Yogananda I mentioned is different. Swami Yogananda is one of>> the sixteen monastic disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, along > with>> Swami Vivekananda. He was forced to marry, but never slept with his>> own wife. Swami Vivekananda once said " if any of us (disciples of>> Ramakrishna) conquered lust completely and in all respects, it is >> Joginder (Swami Yogananda) " . There is no question of Swami> Yogananda>> being accused of drinking and having women etc.>> >>> > Paramahamsa Yogananda is a sishya of Yukteshwar Maharaj and from > the>> lineage of Mahavatar Babaji. They practice kriya yoga. I do not> know>> much about him.>>>>>>>> For what it is worth, you can read more about Paramahamsa > Yogananda in>> his free+online autobiography,>> here http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi >>>> There were interesting links between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and>> Paramahamsa Yogananda:->> For example, one of the top disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa> was >> Mahendranath Gupta (not sure if he was one of the 16 monastic>> disciples that Narasimhaji refers to) aka Master Mahasaya, who> wrote>> " The Gospel of Ramakrishna " >> (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Mahendranath_ Gupta), and was the >> sanskrit tutor to Paramahamsa Yogananda as well; the latter> devoted an>> entire chapter to him in his>> book :> http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi/ Chapter_9 >>>> Elsewhere in his autobiography Paramhamsa Yogananda also mentions> an>> anecdote of a disciple to whom he gifted a silver cup, who as a> young>> man was told by Swami Vivekandana that the Guru in his life would >> present him with a silver cup in the future.>> http://en.wikisourc e.org/wiki/ Autobiography_ of_a_Yogi/ Chapter_47 >>>> Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these>> supremely elevated souls!>>>> Best. 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