Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Namaskaar to All, on this topic, i'll also add my conviction. As i described in earlier post, when i wanted to learn 'Kriya Yoga', The inspiration came from ParamHansa Yoganands's book. I prayed to Babaji for that and I got it from Sri Sri Ravishankar. First came Thakur in my life thro' Gospel, then came Autobiography of a Yogi, Babaji, SJC and Art of Living and Finally came my Spiritual Guru, Shri Narasimha. What i need to convey is that I didn't join Ramakrishna Mission after Thakur took my hold as Black Cobra grasps an ignorant frog. Babaji didn't take me to 'Self Realisation Society of Yoagananda for parting the knowledge of Kriya yoga to me instead he made arrangements with Sri Sri Ravishankar of Art of Living. Now this amply clears that Kriya Yoga taught by Babaji and Sudarshan Kriya Yoga by AOL is no different though apprently taught by two different spiritually oriented organisation. Thakur introduced me to SJC and i met very worthy and very knowledgeable scholars like Shri Sanjay Rath, Narasimha, Ramanarayan, Visti and so many others. but i couldn't join formally the Organisation as it seemed to me that Jyotish shastra has done its job for me and there was not much enthusiasm left for astrology (Very Surprising as i was hyper for astrology for last 12 years or so). I can not fool myself and others by joining and doing nothing worthwile for it. I waited & waited and finally i was fortunate enough to get My Guru in Narasimha. My above experiences in the last 4 years tells me some real truths. 1) All the spiritual lights are connected to each other hence one must not feel that my lineage is the best and criticise others. 2) i Developed respect for All Saints, Sakshaatkaris and Mumukshus whatever lineage, religion or path they come from 3) One will finally reach to the Guru, to whom one is destined to go and that doesn't always mean that Guru comes from a very highly celebrated organisation or is a ccelebrated persobnality. That also doesn't mean that a very famous person revered as Guru by Millions is a fake one. (Sri Sri Ravishankar is criticised by many but i have no doubt that he is a spiritual Giant) but one must be sincere in his/her aspiration and should take the responsibility of doing Sadhanas. 4) Blind faith is not healthy unless all the doubts are dispelled and concrete revelation is experienced. 5) Influence of Thakur expanded my horizon of Tolerance. from the childhood i believed that all the different religion are true. i was never a fanatic and Thakur Reassured it. I can go to church, Mosque or any other religious Temple of different faith and always be a Hindu by heart. I can pray to Allah, Jesus. but if somebody points a AK47 at me and asks me to convert, i'll die but never change. this is how i feel. i believe. NOW THE TIME has come for everybody and i stress EVERYBODY that we must NOT ONLY RESPECT but truly belive that all the different paths and ideology are true as long as Spiritual destination is the prime mover thought behind them. A truly spiritual person will ask a Muslim to offer Namaz, remebmer Allah and lead a pious life but will NOT influence him to become Hindu and forget Islaam. Same way for Christens, Buddhist and vice versa. Forgive me for writing lot of personal incidents and also going off the track but i don't know how to convey this without mentioning own life events. thanks for baring me. Best Regards, spiritually yours, Utpal , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > > Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these > > supremely elevated souls! > > Earlier, I was exerting discretion in sharing personal accounts, but She has > been making me drop guard of late, for whatever reason. I will continue in > the same vein for a little more time. > > I had a dream a couple of years ago early in the morning. In the dream, > there was a big ritual fire. My guru Manish Pandit and I were sitting in > front of the fire. He was teaching me some pranayama techniques in the > dream. Suddenly, he changed into somebody else that I could not recognize. > It was not anybody I had seen before. > > I mentioned this dream to my guru after a couple of weeks. First he said he > did not know who the other person was and said he would've probably known if > I had mentioned the dream soon after it had happened. I left it there. > However, when we talked in the next weekend, he referred to my dream and > said he had an idea who it was. He gave me a name and asked me to search on > the internet for his photo and see if he was the person I saw in my dream. > It was a guru from the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda (before him). Though > he is apparently well-known, I was not knowledegable about this lineage and > did not see his picture before. I searched on the internet and found a > photo. Interestingly, the photo was very close to the person I saw in my > dream. The person that Manish transformed into in my dream looked like a > slightly younger version of that photo. > > When I confirmed this to Manish, he only smiled and said, " Narasimha, there > are so many links between various lineages. Leave it for now. " > > Of course, I do not know much about kriya yoga or about the lineage of > Paramahamsa Yogananda. Our lineage of this life starts from Dattatreya. We > have a special attachment to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and his lineage and got > a lot of our knowledge, inspiration and perhaps experience from them. We do > not have any direct link to the lineage of Paramahamsa Yogananda. But, > Manish thought there were some other indirect links. Moreover, he guessed > who I saw, even though I myself had no idea who I saw, and he guessed > correctly. That should count for something! > > I will not be surprised if there are indeed subtle connections between > several lineages that seem disjoint today. > > By the way, Swami Vivekananda also appeared in the prison cell of Sri > Aurobindo (who wrote brilliant commentaries on Veda and Upanishad) and > imparted him some Adwaita knowledge to Sri Aurobindo. > > * * * > > An interesting coincidence is that a swamiji from Puri contacted me within a > few days after I saw that photo. His guru and Paramahamsa Yogananda were > co-disciples of the same guru (Yukteshwar Maharaj). He is the keeper of > some astrological knowledge that his guru received from Yukteshwar Maharaj. > He visited me after a month, discussed that knowledge and spent a day at my > house. Thus, some small connection was made with a representative of that > lineage soon after the dream. After all, some karmik debts may have been > there... > > * * * > > I want to make one thing clear. > > Some things I mention like this may give the impression that my guru has > some psychic abilities or siddhis. That may indeed be true. But he always > downplays those things and attaches no importance whatsoever. He says, > " Narasimha, I am a useless person and lower than dirt and capable of > nothing. It is all Her power. She is the connection between every entity in > this universe. She may choose an idiot like me as an instrument sometimes > and do something using me. I have no special abilities of any kind. Any > coincidences you find are just Her grace and not due to me. " > > I realized in time that this simplicity, humility and lack of ego is not > fake. I also realized that this lack of ego is what enabled him to do things > that sound impossible or difficult. In fact, I realized that many great > saints in the past were like this. Several magical things happened through > them, but they did not find any pride in them and retained their humility > and sense of surrender to their chosen form of god and believed that god > was the doer of all things and they were mere instruments. > > The day you also start believing that, not for the sake of lecturing or > posturing, but from the deep cores of your heart, your sadhana will bear > fruit. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > - > " Dinesh Nambisan " <dinesh > > Monday, September 29, 2008 5:54 PM > Yogananda (Re: Dharma) > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > The Yogananda I mentioned is different. Swami Yogananda is one of > the sixteen monastic disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, along with > Swami Vivekananda. He was forced to marry, but never slept with his > own wife. Swami Vivekananda once said " if any of us (disciples of > Ramakrishna) conquered lust completely and in all respects, it is > Joginder (Swami Yogananda) " . There is no question of Swami Yogananda > being accused of drinking and having women etc. > > > > Paramahamsa Yogananda is a sishya of Yukteshwar Maharaj and from the > lineage of Mahavatar Babaji. They practice kriya yoga. I do not know > much about him. > > > > For what it is worth, you can read more about Paramahamsa Yogananda in > his free+online autobiography, > here http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Autobiography_of_a_Yogi > > There were interesting links between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and > Paramahamsa Yogananda:- > For example, one of the top disciples of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was > Mahendranath Gupta (not sure if he was one of the 16 monastic > disciples that Narasimhaji refers to) aka Master Mahasaya, who wrote > " The Gospel of Ramakrishna " > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahendranath_Gupta), and was the > sanskrit tutor to Paramahamsa Yogananda as well; the latter devoted an > entire chapter to him in his > book : http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Autobiography_of_a_Yogi/Chapter_9 > > Elsewhere in his autobiography Paramhamsa Yogananda also mentions an > anecdote of a disciple to whom he gifted a silver cup, who as a young > man was told by Swami Vivekandana that the Guru in his life would > present him with a silver cup in the future. > http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Autobiography_of_a_Yogi/Chapter_47 > > Makes you wonder about the Divine connection between all these > supremely elevated souls! > > Best. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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