Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Came across this incident regarding Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharishi and Ganapati Muni. Anyone who has ever tried even a minutest fraction of sadhana not to gain a better happy life but to get that one small fraction of an inch closer to God will know the millions of troubles and frustation that come in the path. It was on one such moment when I came across this writing and felt humbled. Ganapati Muni was known as a siddha who had done terrific, i repeat terrific amount of penances, even before he met Sri Ramana Maharishi. If such a man could be troubled by doubts and frustation, what to speak of us ordinary men whos minds are overcrowded with multiple weaknessess. Also the followinf conversation shows how a real understanding of the shastra is possible ONLY for a man who is that spiritually elevated. Like Lahiri Mahasaya used to say to his disciples, only a true yogi will understand the spriptures. Others will only get a incomplete surface view of things. And based on our incomplete inefficient understand of shatras we keep fighting with others claiming our path our tradition our understading is the only true one. " Ganapati Muni had met the yet-to-be-called Sri Ramana on the southern slopes of Arunachala. One day he was assailed by pains, troubles, doubts. He remembered that the young Swami was on the hill, and at midday, a little after noon, he climbed and found him sitting outside Virupaksha cave, alone. He prostrated and said, " All the scriptures that have to be read, I have read. All the mantras and japa that have to be done, I have done. Still I have no peace. Please save me. " The young Swami took a little time. For at least fifteen minutes he silently gazed at him. Then in Tamil, he spoke. The English translation is simple: " If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind is absorbed in That; that is tapas. When you recite a mantra, watch where the sound is coming from, within you; when you sing a song or prayer, watch where it is emanating from: your Heart. Put your attention on That. That is tyaga, that is TAPASYA, that is all. " All his doubts and delusions were washed away that day. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Rajashri Ji, I read the biography of Ganapathi Muni, an extraordinary saint, and a staunch devotee of Lord Ganesh. I think you must have heard about two gems " Who Am I " and " Be As you are " books by ramana ashram. If you want to know more about this " I-ness " , there is an extraordinary book called " I am That " by nisargadatta maharaj. Please read it. Thanks and Regards, Kumar Ghanta , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Came across this incident regarding Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharishi and > Ganapati Muni. Anyone who has ever tried even a minutest fraction of > sadhana not to gain a better happy life but to get that one small > fraction of an inch closer to God will know the millions of troubles > and frustation that come in the path. It was on one such moment when > I came across this writing and felt humbled. Ganapati Muni was known > as a siddha who had done terrific, i repeat terrific amount of > penances, even before he met Sri Ramana Maharishi. If such a man > could be troubled by doubts and frustation, what to speak of us > ordinary men whos minds are overcrowded with multiple weaknessess. > Also the followinf conversation shows how a real understanding of > the shastra is possible ONLY for a man who is that spiritually > elevated. Like Lahiri Mahasaya used to say to his disciples, only a > true yogi will understand the spriptures. Others will only get a > incomplete surface view of things. And based on our incomplete > inefficient understand of shatras we keep fighting with others > claiming our path our tradition our understading is the only true > one. > > " Ganapati Muni had met the yet-to-be-called Sri Ramana on the > southern slopes of Arunachala. One day he was assailed by pains, > troubles, doubts. He remembered that the young Swami was on the > hill, and at midday, a little after noon, he climbed and found him > sitting outside Virupaksha cave, alone. He prostrated and said, " All > the scriptures that have to be read, I have read. All the mantras > and japa that have to be done, I have done. Still I have no peace. > Please save me. " The young Swami took a little time. For at least > fifteen minutes he silently gazed at him. Then in Tamil, he spoke. > The English translation is simple: > > " If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind is absorbed > in That; that is tapas. When you recite a mantra, watch where the > sound is coming from, within you; when you sing a song or prayer, > watch where it is emanating from: your Heart. Put your attention on > That. That is tyaga, that is TAPASYA, that is all. " > All his doubts and delusions were washed away that day. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Dear Kumar, Yes "I am that" is a wonderful book. Wwonderful. I bought it some months back and it is so beautiful. I have read "Who am I", and I still keep reading it whenever I can. Its feels so purifying just to read these books.. I wonder what amount of terrific good karma those people must have done who were lucky to have been born near these supersouls and recognized the divinity in them. They are truely blessed. I wish someone could have told me how many mantras japas or what sadhanas or karmas need to be done so that I can have the good fortune of being born close to one of these people in some lifetime. -Regards Rajarshikumar_gh_2000 <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: Rajashri Ji,I read the biography of Ganapathi Muni, an extraordinary saint, and a staunch devotee of Lord Ganesh. I think you must have heard about two gems "Who Am I" and "Be As you are" books by ramana ashram.If you want to know more about this "I-ness", there is an extraordinary book called "I am That" by nisargadatta maharaj. Please read it. Thanks and Regards,Kumar Ghanta , "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14 wrote:>> Came across this incident regarding Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharishi and > Ganapati Muni. Anyone who has ever tried even a minutest fraction of > sadhana not to gain a better happy life but to get that one small > fraction of an inch closer to God will know the millions of troubles > and frustation that come in the path. It was on one such moment when > I came across this writing and felt humbled. Ganapati Muni was known > as a siddha who had done terrific, i repeat terrific amount of > penances, even before he met Sri Ramana Maharishi. If such a man > could be troubled by doubts and frustation, what to speak of us > ordinary men whos minds are overcrowded with multiple weaknessess. > Also the followinf conversation shows how a real understanding of > the shastra is possible ONLY for a man who is that spiritually > elevated. Like Lahiri Mahasaya used to say to his disciples, only a > true yogi will understand the spriptures. Others will only get a > incomplete surface view of things. And based on our incomplete > inefficient understand of shatras we keep fighting with others > claiming our path our tradition our understading is the only true > one.> > "Ganapati Muni had met the yet-to-be-called Sri Ramana on the > southern slopes of Arunachala. One day he was assailed by pains, > troubles, doubts. He remembered that the young Swami was on the > hill, and at midday, a little after noon, he climbed and found him > sitting outside Virupaksha cave, alone. He prostrated and said, "All > the scriptures that have to be read, I have read. All the mantras > and japa that have to be done, I have done. Still I have no peace. > Please save me." The young Swami took a little time. For at least > fifteen minutes he silently gazed at him. Then in Tamil, he spoke. > The English translation is simple:> > "If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind is absorbed > in That; that is tapas. When you recite a mantra, watch where the > sound is coming from, within you; when you sing a song or prayer, > watch where it is emanating from: your Heart. Put your attention on > That. That is tyaga, that is TAPASYA, that is all." > All his doubts and delusions were washed away that day. "> "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Dear Rajarshiji, Thank you very much for the response. Sometimes I feel I missed the golden era(1800- early 1900). It was the time many saints were born. Sri Shirdi Saibaba, Sri Swami Samarth(Akkalkot maharaj), Sri Ramana Maharshi, Sri Tajuddin baba, Sri Bhagavan Nityananda, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramakrishna parmahansa, Trilinga swami, Lahiri baba, Yukteswara Maharaj, Pakalapati guruji and many other saints were born in that golden era. I too accept that the presence of the saints just near to us is highly benificial than anything. However still many people near to those saints didn't use those great saints help. Sri Shirdi Saibaba himself told that everybody was coming to him for material wealth and nobody was asking spiritual wealth. In my opinion, if we pray sincerely, even now also those saints will respond to us. In my observation, devotion with other kinds of meditation gives excellent results. Combination of strong conviction on guru or god, meditation on beingness(I like pranayama, vipasana, and zen too), chanting of the powerful Gayatri Mantra or any other mantras we are connected gives highly benificial results. Finally it leads us to sarwasya saranagati and complete detachment. As human mind needs variety, we can increase our sadhana time by trying all these different approaches. Indeed this is also great time. As technology advanced very well with internet and computers, now we can have a great awareness on many spiritual topics. We can read and analyze about various kinds of spiritual practises and choose which one fits best to our temper irrespective of religion. However as sri Sivananda swami told as ounce of practise is better than tons of theory. Let us practise, practise, practise until being one with oneness. Thanks and Regards Kumar Ghanta , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Kumar, > > Yes " I am that " is a wonderful book. Wwonderful. I bought it some months back and it is so beautiful. I have read " Who am I " , and I still keep reading it whenever I can. Its feels so purifying just to read these books.. > > I wonder what amount of terrific good karma those people must have done who were lucky to have been born near these supersouls and recognized the divinity in them. They are truely blessed. I wish someone could have told me how many mantras japas or what sadhanas or karmas need to be done so that I can have the good fortune of being born close to one of these people in some lifetime. > > -Regards > Rajarshi > > kumar_gh_2000 <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: > Rajashri Ji, > I read the biography of Ganapathi Muni, an extraordinary saint, and a > staunch devotee of Lord Ganesh. I think you must have heard about two > gems " Who Am I " and " Be As you are " books by ramana ashram. > > If you want to know more about this " I-ness " , there is an > extraordinary book called " I am That " by nisargadatta maharaj. Please > read it. > Thanks and Regards, > Kumar Ghanta > > > , " rajarshi14 " <rajarshi14@> > wrote: > > > > Came across this incident regarding Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharishi > and > > Ganapati Muni. Anyone who has ever tried even a minutest fraction > of > > sadhana not to gain a better happy life but to get that one small > > fraction of an inch closer to God will know the millions of > troubles > > and frustation that come in the path. It was on one such moment > when > > I came across this writing and felt humbled. Ganapati Muni was > known > > as a siddha who had done terrific, i repeat terrific amount of > > penances, even before he met Sri Ramana Maharishi. If such a man > > could be troubled by doubts and frustation, what to speak of us > > ordinary men whos minds are overcrowded with multiple weaknessess. > > Also the followinf conversation shows how a real understanding of > > the shastra is possible ONLY for a man who is that spiritually > > elevated. Like Lahiri Mahasaya used to say to his disciples, only a > > true yogi will understand the spriptures. Others will only get a > > incomplete surface view of things. And based on our incomplete > > inefficient understand of shatras we keep fighting with others > > claiming our path our tradition our understading is the only true > > one. > > > > " Ganapati Muni had met the yet-to-be-called Sri Ramana on the > > southern slopes of Arunachala. One day he was assailed by pains, > > troubles, doubts. He remembered that the young Swami was on the > > hill, and at midday, a little after noon, he climbed and found him > > sitting outside Virupaksha cave, alone. He prostrated and > said, " All > > the scriptures that have to be read, I have read. All the mantras > > and japa that have to be done, I have done. Still I have no peace. > > Please save me. " The young Swami took a little time. For at least > > fifteen minutes he silently gazed at him. Then in Tamil, he spoke. > > The English translation is simple: > > > > " If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind is absorbed > > in That; that is tapas. When you recite a mantra, watch where the > > sound is coming from, within you; when you sing a song or prayer, > > watch where it is emanating from: your Heart. Put your attention on > > That. That is tyaga, that is TAPASYA, that is all. " > > All his doubts and delusions were washed away that day. " > > " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet > > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Dear Kumar, Very good mail. I completely agree to it. 100 percent. One ounce of practise is far far far better. You have hit the nail on the head. Very correct.. I personally feel a terrific devotion for Ramakrishna Paramhamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya.. not that the other saints any less..(it is foolish for us to compare them).. but Ramakrishna Paramhamsa i find to be just amazing.. specially if u read that book by Sri Saradananda where a lot of details is mentioned about thakur's sadhana days.. its mind boggling.. and Lahiri Mahasays.. what a man.. what a yogi.. being a houselholder goign to these heights.. oh my god.. its just too much..! -Regards Rajarshikumar_gh_2000 <kumar_gh_2000 wrote: Dear Rajarshiji,Thank you very much for the response. Sometimes I feel I missed the golden era(1800- early 1900). It was the time many saints were born. Sri Shirdi Saibaba, Sri Swami Samarth(Akkalkot maharaj), Sri Ramana Maharshi, Sri Tajuddin baba, Sri Bhagavan Nityananda, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramakrishna parmahansa, Trilinga swami, Lahiri baba, Yukteswara Maharaj, Pakalapati guruji and many other saints were born in that golden era. I too accept that the presence of the saints just near to us is highly benificial than anything. However still many people near to those saints didn't use those great saints help. Sri Shirdi Saibaba himself told that everybody was coming to him for material wealth and nobody was asking spiritual wealth. In my opinion, if we pray sincerely, even now also those saints will respond to us. In my observation, devotion with other kinds of meditation gives excellent results. Combination of strong conviction on guru or god, meditation on beingness(I like pranayama, vipasana, and zen too), chanting of the powerful Gayatri Mantra or any other mantras we are connected gives highly benificial results. Finally it leads us to sarwasya saranagati and complete detachment. As human mind needs variety, we can increase our sadhana time by trying all these different approaches. Indeed this is also great time. As technology advanced very well with internet and computers, now we can have a great awareness on many spiritual topics. We can read and analyze about various kinds of spiritual practises and choose which one fits best to our temper irrespective of religion. However as sri Sivananda swami told as ounce of practise is better than tons of theory. Let us practise, practise, practise until being one with oneness.Thanks and RegardsKumar Ghanta , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:>> Dear Kumar,> > Yes "I am that" is a wonderful book. Wwonderful. I bought it some months back and it is so beautiful. I have read "Who am I", and I still keep reading it whenever I can. Its feels so purifying just to read these books..> > I wonder what amount of terrific good karma those people must have done who were lucky to have been born near these supersouls and recognized the divinity in them. They are truely blessed. I wish someone could have told me how many mantras japas or what sadhanas or karmas need to be done so that I can have the good fortune of being born close to one of these people in some lifetime.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > kumar_gh_2000 <kumar_gh_2000 wrote:> Rajashri Ji,> I read the biography of Ganapathi Muni, an extraordinary saint, and a > staunch devotee of Lord Ganesh. I think you must have heard about two > gems "Who Am I" and "Be As you are" books by ramana ashram.> > If you want to know more about this "I-ness", there is an > extraordinary book called "I am That" by nisargadatta maharaj. Please > read it. > Thanks and Regards,> Kumar Ghanta> > > , "rajarshi14" <rajarshi14@> > wrote:> >> > Came across this incident regarding Bhagwan Sri Ramana Maharishi > and > > Ganapati Muni. Anyone who has ever tried even a minutest fraction > of > > sadhana not to gain a better happy life but to get that one small > > fraction of an inch closer to God will know the millions of > troubles > > and frustation that come in the path. It was on one such moment > when > > I came across this writing and felt humbled. Ganapati Muni was > known > > as a siddha who had done terrific, i repeat terrific amount of > > penances, even before he met Sri Ramana Maharishi. If such a man > > could be troubled by doubts and frustation, what to speak of us > > ordinary men whos minds are overcrowded with multiple weaknessess. > > Also the followinf conversation shows how a real understanding of > > the shastra is possible ONLY for a man who is that spiritually > > elevated. Like Lahiri Mahasaya used to say to his disciples, only a > > true yogi will understand the spriptures. Others will only get a > > incomplete surface view of things. And based on our incomplete > > inefficient understand of shatras we keep fighting with others > > claiming our path our tradition our understading is the only true > > one.> > > > "Ganapati Muni had met the yet-to-be-called Sri Ramana on the > > southern slopes of Arunachala. One day he was assailed by pains, > > troubles, doubts. He remembered that the young Swami was on the > > hill, and at midday, a little after noon, he climbed and found him > > sitting outside Virupaksha cave, alone. He prostrated and > said, "All > > the scriptures that have to be read, I have read. All the mantras > > and japa that have to be done, I have done. Still I have no peace. > > Please save me." The young Swami took a little time. For at least > > fifteen minutes he silently gazed at him. Then in Tamil, he spoke. > > The English translation is simple:> > > > "If one watches whence the notion 'I' arises, the mind is absorbed > > in That; that is tapas. When you recite a mantra, watch where the > > sound is coming from, within you; when you sing a song or prayer, > > watch where it is emanating from: your Heart. Put your attention on > > That. That is tyaga, that is TAPASYA, that is all." > > All his doubts and delusions were washed away that day. "> >> > > > > > > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet> > > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. > "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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