Will of Siva or karma?

[Guest guest]

Dear learned friends,

 

I will answer the question based on my limited understanding. May the

learned forgive errors made by this fool.

 

Your question is not simplistic. The answer is both. Rebirth in such a case

happens within the limits of karma that was taken on through free will!

 

Let me come down a little from the level of Shiva. Let us say there is a

rishi (Sage), who did enough good karma and sadhana to stay in a higher

realm of consciousness (say, Tapoloka) till the end of this world cycle,

without having to take birth again on earth. Let us say he comes back to

earth and is born as Swami Vivekananda or someone like that. What happens to

him? Is he bound by the karmas? If he faces some sufferings, where are the

karmas resulting in that experience coming from?

 

Whenever a being is born on earth, some of the previously accumulated karmas

are ear-marked as " must experience in this lifetime " karmas. Other karmas

accumulated in the past may or may not be experienced in this lifetime and

may be reserved for future. But those specially marked karmas MUST be

experienced (or burnt through sadhana) in the current lifetime no matter

what.

 

If a rishi or a god is born on earth, there may not be enough bad karmas to

be marked as " must experience in this lifetime " karmas. Then, in order to be

born on this earth, the rishi or god may " take on " new karmas through

freewill.

 

This can be done in several ways. One can take karmas from some other

beings. Moreover, the decision of rebirth itself brings new karmas. For

example, one's choice of mother and father instantly creates new karmas. If

a rishi decides to be born to certain parents, some of the karmas of those

parents and their ancestors are automatically tranferred to him. The choice

of the place can also transfer some part of the karmas associated with that

place (town, country etc) to the person. Thus, the moment a rishi or a god

decides to be born on earth, a set of karmas is created.

 

But, typically, reborn gods and rishis carry very little bad karma and a lot

of good karma. During the course of life, some more bad karmas may be added.

But, overall, they are karmically light (as opposed to heavy). It is

relatively easy to burn those karmas and become free. Still, it is possible

even for a reborn rishi to struggle for several decades before becoming

enlightened.

 

Bottomline: In the case of those who are born on earth without being forced

to, it is a result of karmas that were taken on through free will.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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" shrivajra " <shrivajra

<sivacharya >

Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:13 AM

[sivacharya] Will of Siva or karma?

 

 

> Dear J.R.Krishnan,

> My thanks for the kind words of welcome, which

> I received by email. I have a question (perhaps

> simplistic) that someone here may be able to

> shine some light upon.

>

> I have read that Siva undertakes rebirth within the

> world as a kind of sport or game.

>

> So, by which agency is the outcome of rebirth

> brought to pass; the will of Siva or karma?

>

> Regards

> Kris