Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Dear Sri Ramadas ji and others, I completely understand the tradition of doing the mantras of adhidevatas and pratyadhidevatas of planets and do them myself in both japam and homam. However, I want to bring your attention to the fact that Parasara taught homam for planets in great detail in graha shanti adhyayam in BPHS. He gave the veda mantras to be used for planets, the samidhas (wood) to be used, the food to be offered, the murthis (idols) to be used etc. He explain things in great detail. However, he did not mention a thing about adhidevatas and pratyadhidevatas. There are changes that came in tradition since the time of Parasara. For example, the mantra recitation counts that are in vogue today are based on the Vimsottari dasa system, while the counts given by Parasara are different and not based on Vimsottari dasa ratios. Just my 2 cents... * * * There is another angle to look at japas, homas and prayers. Please bear with me here. Krishna is in pleasure and Krishna is in pain. Krishna is in praise and Krishna is in censure. All planets playing seemingly different roles in this universe are also extensions of the same Krishna only. The seemingly different ("good and bad") results given to us by planets are also Krishna only. There is nothing other than Krishna in this universe. So, what do we want to avoid? When I did a 4-day long Navagraha japam+homam in November 2006, I did not ask for any relief from the planets. I am happy to let the planets do their job. I do not ask them to go easy on me. I see grahas as Vishnu's amshas and they have duties to fulfil so that the niyati (order) is maintained as this universe is sustained. So I just like to extol their nature and just celebrate the duty they fulfil rather than ask them for favors! In fact, all japas and homas I do these days are like that only. I just want to extol and celebrate the various roles played by various deities in maintaining the order in this universe. I don't want to corrupt the bliss that comes from it by wanting something from the deities. However, it is just me speaking. If someone else wants something specific and does homam for that, that is a valid thing to do. What is good for goose is not good for gander. Each person's needs are different. But please realize that Veda mantras can be used to ask planets (or deities) for something or just to understand and celebrate the nature of the planets (or deities). The ultimate purpose of Vedic hymns is self-realization. But there are other intermediate purposes too. Again, just my 2 cents... Best regards,Narasimha-------------------------------Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- > Dear Sanjay Ji,> Normally in Kerala and in Karnataka many places we chant normally Mantras from Yajurveda as after the Mantra Japas are completed,we perform the Yajna by using the appropriate articles.The Mantra Japa may be Rig Vedic or Yajur Vedic and this depends on some parts of our country.So there is no controversy about Mantra Japas.But when a particular Graha/s Mantra Japa is being chanted,it is always better to chant the Mantras of Adhi Devatha and Pratyadhi Devathas.During past 25 years I have seen the Scholars were performing different Yajnas and Mantra Japas. Even last year when I performed Shri Maha Mrityunjaya Japa with Homam,I myself participated in Mantra Japam on the Homam days with offering of Ajyas to Agni.here the Mantra is both Rig and Yajur Vedic.> During the year 2005, I performed Kuja - Rahu Sandhi Shanti Homam for my daughter and the Purohits were chanting yajur Vedic Mantras for Kuja, Rahu,their Adhi Devathas and Pratyadhidevathas and Ajyas were given to Agni by chanting their Mantras.As per the aged Scholars who participated in that Sandhi Shanti Homam, they said me that by chanting the Adhi Devatha and Pratyadhi Devatha Mantras and offering Ajyas to Agni along with respective Graha Mantras ( Yajur Vedic ),the results will be very fast.Rig Vedic Mantras can be chanted by the person concerned when he/ she dont have the fecility to perform the Yajnas.> I have seen the results of such Yajur Vedic Mantra Yajnas in my life and also in those people's life for whom I have arranged such Yajnas.> So I strongly feel that whether the Mantras are Rig or Yajur, there is no problem at all but we have to chant the Adhi Devatha and Pratyadhidevatha Mantras to activate the Grahas to nullify malefic results at the earliest.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote:>  > > +om gurave namah+> Dear Ramdas ji and Swee> I am not in agreement with the Purohita completely.> If the mantra for the graha is from the Veda, it is complete in itself and does not need any support, whereas if the mantra is tantrika then the mantra of adhi devata OR pratyadhi devata or both is necessary. So I am in partial agreement with the views of the Purohita of kerala.> The mantras given below are from the Yajur or Sama Veda pandits. The Rk Veda is slightly different. You can see the subtle difference in the Surya mantra which is aakR^iSNena for Rk Veda instead of aasatyena. Also the mantra for pratyadhi devata is Mrityunjaya mantra of Rk Veda instead of Pashupati mantra. In this manner there are some differences.> > Swee, Ketu is at the bottom and so is Chirta gupta.> > -------------------------------- ITrans > .. saMkalpaH ..> mamopaatta-samasta-duritakshayadvaaraa shriiparameshvara priityarthaM aadityaadi navagraha > devataa prasaada siddhyartaM aadityaadi navagraha namaskaaraan karishhye..> > .. mantraaNi ..> ----------------------SUN------------------------> suurya> OM aasatyena rajasaa vartamaano niveshayannamR^itaM martyaM ca.> hiraNyayena savitaa rathenaa.a.adevo yaati bhuvanaa vipashyan.> > agni> agniM duutaM vR^iNiimahe hotaaraM vishvavedasam. asya yaj~nasya sukratum" .> > pashupatiH> yeshhaamiishe pashupatiH pashuunaaM catushhpadaamuta ca dvipadaa"m.> nishhkriito.ayaM yaj~niyaM bhaagametu raayasposhhaa yajamaanasya santu ..> > ---------------------------MOON---------------------> soma> OM aapyaayasva sametu te vishvatassoma vR^ishhNiyam. bhavaa vaajasya saMgathe..> > aapa> apsume somo abraviidantarvishvaani bheshhajaa. agni~nca vishvashaMbhuvamaapashca vishvabheshhajiiH.> > gaurii> gaurii mimaaya salilaani takshatyekapadii dvipadii saa catushhpadii.> ashhTaapadii navapadii babhuuvushhii sahasraa"ksharaa parame vyoman.> > -------------------------MARS-----------------------------> kuja> OM agnirmuurddhaa divaH kakutpatiH pR^ithivyaa ayam. apaa{m+} retaa{m+}si jinvati.> > pR^ithivi devii> syonaa pR^ithivi bhavaa.anR^iksharaa niveshani. yacchhaanashsharma saprathaa"H.> > kshetrapaala> kshetrasya patinaa vaya{m+}hito neva jayaamasi. gaamashvaM poshhayintvaa sa no mR^iDaatiidR^ishe" ..> OM adhidevataa pratyadhidevataa sahitaaya a~Ngaarakaaya namaH .. 3 ..> > OM udbudhyasvaagne pratijaagR^ihyenamishhTaapuurte sa{m+}sR^ijethaamaya~nca.> punaH kR^iNva{m+}stvaa pitaraM yuvaanamanvaaa{m+}siitvayi tantumetam ..> idaM vishhNurvicakrame tredhaa nidadhe padam. samuuDhamasyapaa{m+} sure ..> vishhNo raraaTamasi vishhNo"H pR^ishhThamasi vishhNoshshnaptre"stho > vishhNossyuurasi vishhNo"rdhruvamasi vaishhNavamasi vishhNave tvaa.> > > --------------------JUP------------------> bR^ihaspati> OM bR^ihaspate atiyadaryo arhaa"ddyumadvibhaati kratumajjaneshhu.> yaddidayaccavasartaprajaata tadasmaasu draviNandhehi citram ..> > indra> indramarutva iha paahi somaM yathaa shaaryaate apibassutasya.> tava praNiitii tava shuurasharmannaavivaasanti kavayasuyaj~naaH ..> > brahma> brahmajaj~naanaM prathamaM purastaadvisiimatassuruco vena aavaH.> sabudhniyaa upamaa asya vishhThaassatashca yonimasatashca vivaH> > --------------------- VEN> OM pravashshukraaya bhaanave bharadhvam. havyaM matiM caagnaye supuutam ..> yo daivyaani maanushhaa januu{m+}shhi. antarvishvaani vidma naa jigaati ..> indraaNiimaasu naarishhu supatniimahamashravam. na hyasyaa aparaMcana jarasaa marate patiH ..> indraM vo vishvataspari havaamahe jane"bhyaH. asmaakamastu kevalaH ..> > --------------------------- SAT--------> > OM shanno deviirabhishhTaya aapo bhavantu piitaye". shaMyorabhisravantu naH ..> > prajaapate na tvadetanyanyo vishvaa jaataani paritaa babhuuva.> yatkaamaaste juhumaastanno astu vaya{m+}syaama patayo rayiiNaam.> > imaM yamaprastaramaahi siidaa.a~NgirobhiH pitR^ibhissaMvidaanaH.> aatvaa mantraa"H kavishastaa vahantvenaa raajan havishhaa maadayasva..> > > ------------------RAHU------------------------------- > OM kayaa nashcitra aabhuvaduutii sadaavR^idhassakhaa". kayaa shacicashhThayaa vR^itaa.> > aa.aya~NgauH pR^ishnirakramiidasananmaataraM punaH. pitara~nca prayantsuvaH.> yatte devii nirR^itiraababandha daama griivaasvavicartyam.> > idante tadvishhyaamyaayushho na madhyaadathaajiivaH pitumaddhi pramuktaH ..> > > --------------KETU------------------------------- > OM ketu~NkR^iNvannaketave pesho maryaa apeshase". samushhadbhirajaayathaa ..> brahma> brahmaa devaanaa"M padaviiH kaviinaamR^ishhirvipraaNaaM mahishho mR^igaaNaa"m.> shyenogR^idhraaNaa{m+}svadhitirvanaanaa{m+} somaH pavitramatyeti rebhan.> citragupta> sacitra citraM citayan"tamasme citrakshatra citratamaM vayodhaam.> candraM rayiM puruviiram" bR^ihantaM candracandraabhirgR^iNate yuvasva ..> > > .. OM aadityaadi navagraha devataabhyo namo namaH ..> .. OM shaantiH shaantiH shaantiH ..> Best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> > Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org> Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com> Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA]> > > > > > sjc-guru [sjc-guru ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan> Monday, March 19, 2007 6:51 PM> sjc-guru > Re: [sjc-guru] Re: moon mantra for amavasya> > > > Om Krishna Guru> > Dear Ramadas ji,> Namaste> > Citragupta as in the personality who jots down your deeds on earth to present it to Yama? Can you please give more details? Thank you. I am very grateful for your inputs.> > love,> > Swee> > > > > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Swee Ji,> > When Ketu Mantra is being chanted, Chitra Gupta's Mantra also has to be chanted without which Ketu Mantra Japa will not have any effects.This has been told to me by family Purohit when I was performing Ketu Japa for my son.> > I hope this helps.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:> > > > > Om Krishna Guru> > > Forgot to add for Ketu,> > love,> > Swee> > > RV 1 sukta 6.3> > > > > > > Om Kirshna Guru> > Dear Freedom,> Namaste> > Padma Purana also suggests the same mantras. Requires proof reading.> > love,> > Swee> ! nbsp;> > Hare Rama Krsna> > I have the mantras for the grahas that are from the Rg Veda but not the mantras that are now only found in the Samhitas. > This is my present understanding of the graha shanti mantras:> > Sun-Ã…g Veda Mandala , Sukta 35, verse 2> Moon - imaM devaa asapatnaM suvadhvaM mahate kSatraaya mahate jaanaraajyaayendrasyendriya…. Vaajasaneyi-SaMhita 9.40, 10.18 or Satapatha BraahmaNa 5.3.3.12 (I don’t have these texts in Sanskrit)> > Mars- Maëòala 8, Sükta 44, verse 16> Mercury-budhyasvaagne prati jaagR^ihy enam… in the Vaajasaneyi-SaMhita 15.54a (in the MädhyaMdina Saakhaa (edited by Albrect Weber) or Kaathakam 18.18a, or Satapatha BraahmaNa 8.6.3.23, or Taaittiriiya SaMhita 4.7.13.5A (I don’t have these texts in Sanskrit).> > > > Jupiter- Maëòala 2, Sükta 24, verse 15> Venus- annaat pariruto rasam… Vaajasaneyi-SaMhita 19.75A, MaaitraayaNii saMhitaa 3.11.6A, 149.1, Kaathakam 38.1, Taaittiriiya braahmaNa 2.6.2.2A (I don’t have these texts in Sanskrit).> > > Saturn- Ã…g Veda, Maëòala 10, Sükta 9> Rahu- Ã…g Veda, Maëòala 4, Sükta 31, verse 1> Ketu- ketu KR^iSNanna ketave… (source??)> > > Aum Namah Sivaya> > > > > sjc-guru@grou! ps.com [sjc-guru ] On Behalf Of freeflowaum> Friday, March 16, 2007 6:15 PM> sjc-guru > RE: [sjc-guru] Re: moon mantra for amavasya> > > Hare Rama Krsna> > Narasimha, > Thank you very much for that reply. Is there somewhere the list of mantras used by Parashara in the graha shanti chapter? > > I agree, we as SJC should definitely do more homa/ritual (together). Sanjay once said that a husband and wife should have one shrine/alter; if they have two separate ones it can create division among them. As a! n organization, I am sure there would also be some binding factors involved with group rituals, and would align our minds and goals as well. It would be nice if events like the conferences could start with a half day navagraha puja or something along those lines. > > Out here we have a few people getting panchanga dosha pujas that the students will get to watch/be part of. I really feel like these types of puja change the level one practices jyotish at. If one is not connecting to the jyoti/devas unless one is doing such practices, otherwise it is just reading numbers and yogas, etc.> > Aum Namah Shivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 |om| Dear Narasimha, pranaams > I see grahas as Vishnu's amshas…So I just like to extol their nature This is precisely what Maharishi Parasara means when he states that Vishnu has incarnated as the grahas and is Janardana or the praise-worthy one. best regards Hari On 3/31/07, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Dear Sri Ramadas ji and others, I completely understand the tradition of doing the mantras of adhidevatas and pratyadhidevatas of planets and do them myself in both japam and homam. However, I want to bring your attention to the fact that Parasara taught homam for planets in great detail in graha shanti adhyayam in BPHS. He gave the veda mantras to be used for planets, the samidhas (wood) to be used, the food to be offered, the murthis (idols) to be used etc. He explain things in great detail. However, he did not mention a thing about adhidevatas and pratyadhidevatas. There are changes that came in tradition since the time of Parasara. For example, the mantra recitation counts that are in vogue today are based on the Vimsottari dasa system, while the counts given by Parasara are different and not based on Vimsottari dasa ratios. Just my 2 cents... * * * There is another angle to look at japas, homas and prayers. Please bear with me here. Krishna is in pleasure and Krishna is in pain. Krishna is in praise and Krishna is in censure. All planets playing seemingly different roles in this universe are also extensions of the same Krishna only. The seemingly different ( " good and bad " ) results given to us by planets are also Krishna only. There is nothing other than Krishna in this universe. So, what do we want to avoid? When I did a 4-day long Navagraha japam+homam in November 2006, I did not ask for any relief from the planets. I am happy to let the planets do their job. I do not ask them to go easy on me. I see grahas as Vishnu's amshas and they have duties to fulfil so that the niyati (order) is maintained as this universe is sustained. So I just like to extol their nature and just celebrate the duty they fulfil rather than ask them for favors! In fact, all japas and homas I do these days are like that only. I just want to extol and celebrate the various roles played by various deities in maintaining the order in this universe. I don't want to corrupt the bliss that comes from it by wanting something from the deities. However, it is just me speaking. If someone else wants something specific and does homam for that, that is a valid thing to do. What is good for goose is not good for gander. Each person's needs are different. But please realize that Veda mantras can be used to ask planets (or deities) for something or just to understand and celebrate the nature of the planets (or deities). The ultimate purpose of Vedic hymns is self-realization. But there are other intermediate purposes too. Again, just my 2 cents... Best regards,Narasimha-------------------------------Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------------------------- .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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