MyYogaClub.com - Why Forgiveness Is Not A Spiritual Trait

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Dear All,

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and feel free to leave your thoughts in the forum. Hope you enjoy... Love Sanjib

 

Forgiving someone implies taking the higher morale authority over

another's action. It comes directly from the space of ego where the " I "

decides to forgive " you " . There is nothing but a sense of separation in

forgiveness and can only take one further away from one's inner truths.

 

Yoga empowers us to feel connected with this entire creation and feel a

sense of belongingness and love. Vedic philosophies actually determine

consciousness to be nothing more than a divine representation of love.

However, it is the distortion of this love that causes the imbalance

and problems we see in the world today. Jealousy, fear, hatred are all

gross distortions of love and roam freely, moving from one mind to the

other. It takes a composed and controlled mind to with stand these

forces, as the tendency of our mind is to cling onto the negative....

 

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, Sanjib Mukherjee <myyogaclub wrote:

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> Dear All,

> The following article is taken from my site www.myyogaclub.com.

 

Sanjibji, I read the article, it seems interesting.

 

Yet, I would like to add, even though what you say maybe true for realised

souls, for the ordinary person, forgiveness is very important.

 

We constantly carry our anger, shame, disgust with us at all times. This causes

not just mental but phyical problems as well. Learning to forgive is very

lightening for both body and mind.

 

When people get angry, they usually tense up, which causes that negative energy

to get stored in body, usually in shoulders, neck, knees(depending on what type

of thought it is). People keep collecting all this anger all over their life,

which is why they turn in to bitter, sick old people.

 

Forgiving someone means letting go of all the garbage we have collected. The

other person still gets the result of their karma, its just we break our link

with that person.

 

luv,

s

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When people get angry, they usually tense up, which causes that negative energy

to get stored in body, usually in shoulders, neck, knees(depending on what type

of thought it is).

 

Dear Shantanuji,

 

I had lived in an opressive enviromment for about 15 years, where I had to face

humiliation in some form or another quite often. I have a baggage of bad

memories.Sometimes they get triggered and then run like a chain through my mind.

With passage of time, I have realised that the unpleasant experiences were

neccessary for my growth as a person.They made me look inwards and develop

coping mechanisms.Yet, sometimes when the train of memories runs, it still fills

me with anger. With time, I have learnt to control it better.It is an ongoing

struggle against myself to overcome the negative feelings the memories produce.

 

For the last eight years, I have arthritis of the knees. Your mail says that

accumulated negative feelings cause illnesses like these.I would be very

grateful if you could elaborate on this.This is a new insight which I find very

intriguing.

 

Regards

R

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, " r_mukherj " <r_mukherj wrote:

 

> Dear Shantanuji,

>

> I had lived in an opressive enviromment for about 15 years, where I >had to

face humiliation in some form or another quite often. I have

 

r_mukherji, whenever we tense up or get angry, or humiliated, or sexually

excited, we have programmed to view these things as bad, so we try to remove

these thoughts. We do this by tensing up the body, which causes the mental

energy to enter the muscles. The muscles keep storing this memory over our whole

life.

 

Try to imagine an angry person- clenched fists & teeth, tense shoulders/neck.

All that persons anger is going into the muscles.

 

Later on, when we try to relax, the body wont let us,as it tries to release all

that negative thoughts, but they make us uncomfortable, so we try to suppress

them again & cycle restarts. Thats the reason most people cant meditate- all the

garbage they have collected starts coming up as soon as they relax. Thats why

just sitting quietly is so imporant.

 

Anyway, we carry all this tension in our body at all times, especially nowdays,

when continuallybeing outraged/ angry is considered fashionable- thats the whole

goal of our media. Obviously, there is only so much tension the body can carry

before it starts failing. Quiet a large percentage of our diseases come like

this.

 

Thats why you have people who get cancer, have it treated, then get it back

after few years. Thats because they didnt change the mental patterns that had

caused them to get the disease in the 1st place. Cancer is caused by suppresed

anger, deep pain & longtime hurt that one refuses to acccept.

 

If you more interested, the book " You can heal your life " by Loiuse hay gives

more detail. In the end she gives many diseases, & the mental patterns that

cause them. So removing our negative thought patterns is more important than

treating the disease, which is just a side effect. Just a few examples from her

book:

 

1. Knee problems: Stubborn ego and pride. Inflexiblity, fear, unable to bend or

give in.

 

2. Headaches- Constant self criticism, invalidating the self.

 

3. hip problems- fear of going forward in life. Nothing to move forward to.

 

There are several ways to fix these problems. The 1st is to accept that you have

them. Looking at your self in the mirror, & saying out loud the opposite of what

you problem is. So if you always angry, saying " I am a calm peaceful person " .

This is a sort of self programming. In extreme cases, one can directly touch the

muscle & try to release the negative thoughts, but that requires some personal

guidance.

 

love,

Shantnu

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Amazing explaination, thanks so much for enlightening all of us.

 

Love,

Paras

 

--- On Sun, 4/10/09, shanracer <no_reply > wrote:

 

 

@ s.com, " r_mukherj " <r_mukherj@. ..> wrote:

 

r_mukherji, whenever we tense up or get angry, or humiliated, or sexually

excited, we have programmed to view these things as bad, so we try to remove

these thoughts. We do this by tensing up the body,

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Thank you Shantanuji for your answer. It is true that stress causes our body to

tense up and might result in diseases.I have a doubt, however. I visited a

cancer hospital and saw many children( some were very small) afflicted by the

disease.In their case, it could not have been due to accumulated negative

emotions.

Regards

Rwitoja

 

--- On Sun, 4/10/09, shanracer <no_reply > wrote:

 

> Dear Shantanuji,

>

> I had lived in an opressive enviromment for about 15 years, where I >had to

face humiliation in some form or another quite often. I have

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, rwitoja mukherjee <r_mukherj

> I visited a cancer hospital and saw many children( some were very >small)

afflicted by the disease.In their case, it could not have been >due to

accumulated negative emotions.

 

Rwitojaji, these rules are not mechanical, you have to look at each case

individually, & then decide.

 

luv,

shantnu