Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Q: What is the symbolic meaning of Hanuman eating the Sun (on YA by ranger) ans : Hanuman did not gulp the Sun, but tried to do so. From when he was born Hanuman proved to be such a voracious eater that is mother was beyond herself feeding him. He even attempted to eat the sun, an attempt foiled by Indra, the king of the gods, who threw his thunderbolt at the tremendous baby to discourage him from devouring the only source of light to the earth. This created a slight commotion in the heavens with Vayu coming to the rescue of his son but the gods intervened and persuaded Indra to apologize to Vayu. Peace returned and the gormandizing baby was returned to the safe folds of his mother while Surya, the sun god, was spared a horrible fate. Now most of our mythological stories are actually symbolic and have deeper meanings behind it. Hanumanji is called Pavanputra...the son of vayu (air) which also called Prana. Hence Hanuman is ansh of Prana entering our body and working there. this prana is uncontrolled and hungry in its enfant stage...here enfant means the prana of most of the people, who are not trying to control prana. Astrologically SUN denotes the Soul of a person.... hence Hanuman as a kid (means uncontrolled prana)....tries to gulp the SUN (soul) and keep our whole body in darkness of ignorance. Indra - means the Chief of gods...here gods are our indriyas and their chief is Mind. so Indira or our Mind then tries to control Prana and stops it from gulping the Sun and bringing darkness of ignorance. The same Hanuman (the uncontrolled, immature prana) is when put to devotion to Shri Ram, it gains and remembers all its powers and helps in finding Sita (Kundlaini) and restrore her back to Rama (shiva tattwa) in us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Thank You sir. This actually has a deeper meaning than I could imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Beautiful xplaination. --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Aum <beirut_ka_baba Hanuman eating the sun Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 3:11 PM Q: What is the symbolic meaning of Hanuman eating the Sun (on YA by ranger) ans : Hanuman did not gulp the Sun, but tried to do so. From when he was born Hanuman proved to be such a voracious eater that is mother was beyond herself feeding him. He even attempted to eat the sun, an attempt foiled by Indra, the king of the gods, who threw his thunderbolt at the tremendous baby to discourage him from devouring the only source of light to the earth. This created a slight commotion in the heavens with Vayu coming to the rescue of his son but the gods intervened and persuaded Indra to apologize to Vayu. Peace returned and the gormandizing baby was returned to the safe folds of his mother while Surya, the sun god, was spared a horrible fate. Now most of our mythological stories are actually symbolic and have deeper meanings behind it. Hanumanji is called Pavanputra.. .the son of vayu (air) which also called Prana. Hence Hanuman is ansh of Prana entering our body and working there. this prana is uncontrolled and hungry in its enfant stage...here enfant means the prana of most of the people, who are not trying to control prana. Astrologically SUN denotes the Soul of a person.... hence Hanuman as a kid (means uncontrolled prana)....tries to gulp the SUN (soul) and keep our whole body in darkness of ignorance. Indra - means the Chief of gods...here gods are our indriyas and their chief is Mind. so Indira or our Mind then tries to control Prana and stops it from gulping the Sun and bringing darkness of ignorance. The same Hanuman (the uncontrolled, immature prana) is when put to devotion to Shri Ram, it gains and remembers all its powers and helps in finding Sita (Kundlaini) and restrore her back to Rama (shiva tattwa) in us. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Namaste Aumji, Thank you for telling us the esoteric meaning of this story.It was something I always wondered about and wanted to know.Does Hanuman's crossing the ocean, setting fire to Lanka, bringing the Sanjivani booti also have esoteric meaning ? Please continue giving us the hidden meaning of our glorious mythology. Regards Rwitoja --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Aum <beirut_ka_baba Hanuman eating the sun Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 3:11 PM Q: What is the symbolic meaning of Hanuman eating the Sun (on YA by ranger) ans : Hanuman did not gulp the Sun, but tried to do so. From when he was born Hanuman proved to be such a voracious eater that is mother was beyond herself feeding him. He even attempted to eat the sun, an attempt foiled by Indra, the king of the gods, who threw his thunderbolt at the tremendous baby to discourage him from devouring the only source of light to the earth. This created a slight commotion in the heavens with Vayu coming to the rescue of his son but the gods intervened and persuaded Indra to apologize to Vayu. Peace returned and the gormandizing baby was returned to the safe folds of his mother while Surya, the sun god, was spared a horrible fate. Now most of our mythological stories are actually symbolic and have deeper meanings behind it. Hanumanji is called Pavanputra.. .the son of vayu (air) which also called Prana. Hence Hanuman is ansh of Prana entering our body and working there. this prana is uncontrolled and hungry in its enfant stage...here enfant means the prana of most of the people, who are not trying to control prana. Astrologically SUN denotes the Soul of a person.... hence Hanuman as a kid (means uncontrolled prana)....tries to gulp the SUN (soul) and keep our whole body in darkness of ignorance. Indra - means the Chief of gods...here gods are our indriyas and their chief is Mind. so Indira or our Mind then tries to control Prana and stops it from gulping the Sun and bringing darkness of ignorance. The same Hanuman (the uncontrolled, immature prana) is when put to devotion to Shri Ram, it gains and remembers all its powers and helps in finding Sita (Kundlaini) and restrore her back to Rama (shiva tattwa) in us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 , rwitoja mukherjee <r_mukherj wrote: > > Namaste Aumji, > Thank you for telling us the esoteric meaning of this story.It was something I always wondered about and wanted to know.Does Hanuman's crossing the ocean, setting fire to Lanka, bringing the Sanjivani booti also have esoteric meaning ? Please continue giving us the hidden meaning of our glorious mythology. > > Regards > Rwitoja Yes I would love to share...the truth !!! Rama, the in-dwelling spirit, is called Raja Rama because He is king of the 72 thousands nadis. Krishna also rules the nadis, but His lila is different; He has a love affair with them. He has a love affair with them. some people find it easy to relate to the souls as King; others prefer to relate to it as Lover. We must find which agrees best with our temperamanet and relate in that way. As they say - The truth is One; the learned describe it in many ways... " Rama's brother lakshamana represents the power of concentration which helps the soul to regain its bride. His name from the word lakshya, suggests one pointed concentratration, and in fact Lakshamana did focus his concentratin on a sigle goal; his brother rama, the indivisudla soul, Sita, Rama's wife, is the Kundalini Shakti, the power of Ma on an individual level. sita was not born from a womb, as Rama was; she was found when her father kind Janaka was ploughing the gorund to build a sacrifical altar. she comes there form Bhu Garbha, the womb of the earth. janaka means creator; it is janaka who my removing sita from the Earth element creates her...or if you prefer awkens her... rest in next AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 , aumji <no_reply wrote: >of the 72 thousands nadis. Krishna also rules the nadis, but His lila >is different; He has a love affair with them. He has a love affair >with them. some people find it easy to relate to the Thanks Aumji, you have answered your own question on Raas Leela. When complete Divinity descends on us, all our Nadis start dancing with joy. Each thinks it is the only one getting the full pleasure, but in truth God is everywhere, so all 72000 Nadis are dancing with joy. This is the esoteric Raas Leela. Not everyone feels this bliss , however. Most Gyanis & some Yogis, who think this body is impure, usually die when their Kundalni awakens completely, as they have no interest in it. One must have very strong Bhakti to invite god into this body- for only Gods power can keep the body alive once the full force of kundalni is flowing through it. But the rewards are great- one gets a divine body. Like poison Meera had no effect on Meera, fire couldnt burn Sita. Plus one feels a continuous bliss all the time. luv, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > Q: What is the symbolic meaning of Hanuman eating the Sun (on YA by ranger) > > ans : Hanuman did not gulp the Sun, but tried to do so. Thanks aumji. I had similar thoughts as well. One more thing- regards Indra striking Hanuman down, & Vayu threatening to destroy world. When uncontrolled Pran tries to jump here & there, the mind(Indra) tries to kill it. This is usually what happens when we try to control urges of Pran(which include anger, sex desire). By suppressing these Pranic demands, we bring disease to the body and mind. But the Pran is not to be suppressed, as that leads to deacy & death of body. Rather, it must be allowed to grow by Sadhna, so it can show its true power is service of the soul. So in the story, if Hanuman is immature, so is Indra, as he doesnt yet understand that its not mind that can control Pran, but the power of the Soul, which comes by surrender to God. love, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hari Om! I have a doubt. Can all our puranas and idhihas be explained away esoterically? Were they mere allegorical stories created to explain these esoteric meaning? Are Ram and Krishna and all other heroes including Hanumanji mere fictions? ulaganthan p shanracer <no_reply > Friday, 7 August, 2009 1:18:57 PM Re: Hanuman eating the sun @ s.com, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba@ ...> wrote: > > Q: What is the symbolic meaning of Hanuman eating the Sun (on YA by Thanks aumji. I had similar thoughts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > > So in the story, if Hanuman is immature, so is Indra, as he doesnt >yet understand that its not mind that can control Pran, but the power >of the Soul, which comes by surrender to God. Thanks Shanracer, this point is worth pondering... yes in the initial stages mind too is immature and tries to control prana by supressing it and it hurts the prana or psyche or the body Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 , ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: > > Hari Om! > > I have a doubt. Can all our puranas and idhihas be explained away esoterically? Were they mere allegorical stories created to explain these esoteric meaning? Are Ram and Krishna and all other heroes including Hanumanji mere fictions? Dear appunathanji, No these epics are not fictional. they actually happened. We have to go a little deeper to understand/remove your doubt. Rishis are the writers of the cosmic play. rishis write the stories based upon their perception of truth and their meditation experiences. so they saw how prana works, how ego troubles and how mind tries to control...and then based upon their spiritual experiences they write the epics and all actors, including god-incarnate take part in that epic and make it a reality on the physical plane. Mahabharat was written much before it actually happened. Ramayan was written much before actual happenings... because Rishis had already put their experiences into a story and all followed their story. Like I see a dream and then write a drama and actors play the theatre... here my dream is the real spiritual meaning behind the drama...and the actual drama is the epic. but this idea is open to discussion and surgery...and i invite criticism to this idea, to understand the matter more deeply Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Aumji, It was wonderfully related and explained by you. Its amazing to understand meansing behind the scenes. --- On Thu, 6/8/09, aumji <no_reply > wrote: aumji <no_reply > Re: Hanuman eating the sun Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 9:35 PM @ s.com, rwitoja mukherjee <r_mukherj@. ..> wrote: > > Namaste Aumji, > Thank you for telling us the esoteric meaning of this story.It was something I always wondered about and wanted to know.Does Hanuman's crossing the ocean, setting fire to Lanka, bringing the Sanjivani booti also have esoteric meaning ? Please continue giving us the hidden meaning of our glorious mythology. > > Regards > Rwitoja Yes I would love to share...the truth !!! Rama, the in-dwelling spirit, is called Raja Rama because He is king of the 72 thousands nadis. Krishna also rules the nadis, but His lila is different; He has a love affair with them. He has a love affair with them. some people find it easy to relate to the souls as King; others prefer to relate to it as Lover. We must find which agrees best with our temperamanet and relate in that way. As they say - The truth is One; the learned describe it in many ways... " Rama's brother lakshamana represents the power of concentration which helps the soul to regain its bride. His name from the word lakshya, suggests one pointed concentratration, and in fact Lakshamana did focus his concentratin on a sigle goal; his brother rama, the indivisudla soul, Sita, Rama's wife, is the Kundalini Shakti, the power of Ma on an individual level. sita was not born from a womb, as Rama was; she was found when her father kind Janaka was ploughing the gorund to build a sacrifical altar. she comes there form Bhu Garbha, the womb of the earth. janaka means creator; it is janaka who my removing sita from the Earth element creates her...or if you prefer awkens her... rest in next AUM Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > ed. > > We have to go a little deeper to understand/remove your doubt. >Rishis are the writers of the cosmic play. rishis write the Aumji, our are lives also scripts written for the entertainment of others? That means we have no free will-so why do we suffer the effects of Karma? luv, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I think the doubt is correct. The myths are stories and when is transferred by verbal communication, keeps on gettng added with masala to make is more attractive. A simple person can get hero when he becomes a history, its possible. Part of the myths are true and part of it is not. But doubt is not the solution nor the useful attitude towards it. since one ha to take sense out of it and learn something which will help betterment of human life. In my views the myths are to present roll models for us and to improve devotion on the our chosen gods. The one who follows all gods can never reach anywhere. --- On Fri, 7/8/09, ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: ulaganathan p <apunathan Re: Re: Hanuman eating the sun Friday, 7 August, 2009, 3:10 PM Hari Om! I have a doubt. Can all our puranas and idhihas be explained away esoterically? Were they mere allegorical stories created to explain these esoteric meaning? Are Ram and Krishna and all other heroes including Hanumanji mere fictions? ulaganthan p recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > , aumji <no_reply@> wrote: > > > ed. > > > > We have to go a little deeper to understand/remove your doubt. >Rishis are the writers of the cosmic play. rishis write the > > Aumji, our are lives also scripts written for the entertainment of others? > > That means we have no free will-so why do we suffer the effects of Karma? Free will is debateable.. as first we have to see what free will is. If my karma decide, i have to marry such n such girl.... i have no free will to defer/change that marriage.. when we have to decide which shirt to wear today... we have full free will to decide. In my opinion... free will is not to chose from the actions.. because that too is chosen by nature for us depending upon our karma, sanskars and environments. Free will is 100% free will ... on what and how we react to such selection for us. We can chose to react badly and make new karma... or we can chose to be happy taking it as God's gift.. thus increasing Satoguna.. or we can freely chose to detach ourselves from all such selections and karmas.. and be a yogi Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > Free will is debateable.. as first we have to see what free will is. >If my karma decide, i have to marry such n such girl.... i have no >free will to defer/change that marriage.. > In my opinion... free will is not to chose from the actions.. because >that too is chosen by nature for us depending upon our karma, sanskars >and environments. So Aumji, then we shouldnt do Sadhna as well, as Nature will choose that for us as well? Maybe we do have some free will- whether we want to stay where we are, or rise higher? Is this in our hands, or does Nature also decide when we will rise higher? luv, s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > , aumji <no_reply@> wrote: > So Aumji, then we shouldnt do Sadhna as well, as Nature will choose that for us as well? > > Maybe we do have some free will- whether we want to stay where we Nature certainly choses for us and presents a choice too... but those with inflated ego reject this and thus they use their free will in supressing the nature's choice. But this fake free will brings sorrows pains and suffering as a reaction from the Nature. If nature has chosen for us to do sadhna, we will be inclined to do it normally... Our free will is to do it whole heartedly or as a dragged slave. It is like water in a canal... the wather rushes forward and suddenly there is a wall.. because canal is turning left (or right)...the water furiously attacks the wall...some water forcibly is turned to left... and some water which refuses to turn and whirls around for long till a bigger gush of water from behind forces it to go away from that whirl-pool. Our superfluous ego do have a free will..which tries to oppse the nature.. or fight it .. but one thing is pre-decided - Hoi hai wohi jo ram rachi rakha Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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