Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 jai gurudev, dear mr.swami, i am sorry to say this,but yr questions mean u have not read the puran and upanishad etc. pls read them,u will not ask any questions after that. lord shiv as maheshwar also puts on ornaments. when he is in smashan he does not put on ornaments. as a house holder with mother uma [ as uma maheshwar ] he does put on ornaments. when lord mahavishnu is coming to earth to do different work, he may or may not need a female consort. as a fish-matsya,or kurma,or parshuram etc he did not need but as ram,krishan etc he needed. so he did it. for worshipping lord sun there r many ways incl mantras and stuff and suryanamaskar is one of the forms. reg namjap,as per srimad devi bhagwat puran,and also srimad bhagwat puran,bhavishya puran etc,in kaliyug the peoplewill be materialistic and also with sankuchit buddhi,and thus have very less time for elaborate rituals,so lord says namjap will also give salvation. the rituals r for those who want to do them and namjap is for those who want to do namjap. god gives all the ways for us to reach him. so we choose the path we feel ok. also,pls pls pls read all puran and upanishad,u will get all answers. om shakti gopal On 5/14/09, J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU <jiragavarapu wrote: > > > > OMNAMONARAYANAYA > Aumji Pranams > Lord Shiva is pleased with Abhishek or divine version of cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 , " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU " >why Lord Vishnu needs decorations, ornaments,perfumes ,music, >sweets and Goddess Lakshmi`s(or feminine) soothing touch.( much like sensuous humans). Respected swamyji, i dont know if your questions are mere anxiety or to pull my legs LOL... I think since Vishnu is the preserver, and he is God for the running of the universe, he is shown decorated and needs a wife to comfort him, depicting the running of universe. Here Laxmi is the force which runs the day to day working of the world, and vishnu sees to it that it works well. -------- >And why Lord Vishnu needed a consort only in RAMA and KRISHNA incarnations and not in the other incarnations? The first thing is that i do not accept Krishna as avtaar of vishnu. Krishna tattwa is unique and it has many a vishnus manifested in him. However, in each avtara, Lord has his shakti with him, somewhere hidden and somewhere manifested as his wife/consort. --------- > And Aumji why Sun God prefers Namaskarams in various postures to other forms of worship.? > I never said god prefers special rituals. It is our own matrix of energies which requires special rituals to progress. Like may be in Surya namaskar postures, we make our body in such a posture to get maximum benefits of the latent energies emanating from Sun !! May be !! ----- > Each Deity prefers different forms of worship and the procedure of worship is well documented in the literature related to the Deity --- This is rendered superfluous in the following adage > > " Kalou smaranaan mukthih " = During kaliyug repeating the NAME itself brings salvation IE no elaborate rituals are needed (During Kaliyug humans can not follow these rituals ) Of course Nama japa is best suited for masses in kaliyuga.... but mind it is for masses not for all. There are some who still need rituals, because rituals are a sort of codes/signals for the sub-conscious to understand and accept energies in a special way. Like when I wrote that Abhishekam of shivalinga removes our own bad karma...that does not mean Lord Shiva prefers it. Rather our rishis with researches during samadhi found these rituals to be beneficial in a certain way. Hence we can not reject rituals straight away. ----------- > > Kindly enlighten me . Curiosity more than serious doubt. I am not capable of enlightening you... it would always be you who will enlighten your way... no one.. not even a great guru can do this for us. with regards Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 OMNAMONARAYANAYA Gopalji you need not feel sorry to say that I did not read classical texts of Hindu scriptures. I am a novice Thank you for your reply ijswamy ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ --- On Thu, 5/14/09, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 OMNAMONARAYANAYA Aumji , The question is out of curiosity only . As co sadhak Gopal Narayan has pointed out not going deep into scriptures is the cause of suh doubts Thank you very much ijswamy ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ --- On Thu, 5/14/09, aumji <no_reply > wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 om namo narayanaya dear friend, i sincerely request u to pls invest some time and money in reading all 27 puran or if not atleast the main ones, like srimad bhagwat puran,shiv puran,srimad devi bhagwat puran,skanda puran,garud puran etc..... also if possible all the upanishad tehre r 108 but small and yet very deep in meaning. it may take u 1-2 yrs but u will gain proper grasp of the subjects and also help to spread sanatan dharma. om shakti gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 , " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU " <jiragavarapu wrote: > > OMNAMONARAYANAYA > Aumji , The question is out of curiosity only . As co sadhak Gopal >Narayan has pointed out not going deep into scriptures is the cause of >suh doubts LOL swamyji, dont worry, in this group you will find more about Hinduism/Yoga/Tantra than by reading any amount of scriptures. There are people in this group who have forgotten more scriptures than many people will ever read in their life. Thinking that reading scriptures will lead to enlightenment is confusing information with wisdom. It doesnt help that most of our scriptures(except for the Gita) are written in Sandhya Bhaasa(Twilight language), which means they cannot be understood till one has the key. Some of the more advanced ones, like the Vedas, cannot be understood till one has reached a higher state of conciousness. Just reading the scriptures isnt enough, until one also does Sadhna. Satsang, or discussion with like minded Sadhkas, is a great way to learn fast! luv, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > I think since Vishnu is the preserver, and he is God for the running >of the universe, he is shown decorated and needs a wife to comfort him, >depicting the running of universe. Here Laxmi is the force which runs >the day to day working of the world, and vishnu sees to it that it >works well. Can I just add, Vishnu is a code name for the Universal mind, or Cosmic Intelligence, that runs the world. Vishnu is shown lying above a sea, which is the manifest world. This is showing, that while Vishnu runs the world, he is far above it. Vishnu is shown just lying around, meaning he is full of bliss, & is running the world with only a small part of his Cosmic Mind. Lakshmi serving him, maybe seen as a bit of a joke. All the world wants Lakshmi- wealth, power, beauty, to become their slave. Yet Lakshmi only serves Vishnu, who is above the world, & hence has no need of her! It can also show that Shakti only serves Her Lord, that we can never really hope to control her while we remain in human form. One thing is, Vishnu is shown sleep on a snake, while Shiva wears one around his neck. I wonder why that is? luv, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Shanji , It was well explained. I think Visnu is symbol of the real ego, which has just arrived in the material world, and deifnately needs laxmi the godess of welath, material benifits, material necessities. Since the material world is going to attach it, laxmi is representing an attachment to the real ego. The snake is power of god, kunlini, it represents that Visnu has the power of universe, sleeping over it. He represents real ego with material world. The kick by rishi on heart of vishnu represents the real ego is kiked by the true achiver.. Otherway round Lord shiva has snakes , which again representation of power of god, kundlini. He is in Vairagya. Totally detached from the material world. He uses skin f dead animals like Elephant, means he has overcome the chitta sanskaras,the biggest ones. He uses moon means , he has total control over his mind, moon is maker of mind as per astrology. The real ego is itself god but distracted due to material world.Its Visnu states and hence the world runs like this. Shiva status is beyond real ego and is totally detached with this world,. He stays in the places where everything dies. Brahma has no form and can not be worshipped.even though he is shown made of three gunas.three faces. This is basically I think can be understood. --- On Sat, 16/5/09, shanracer <no_reply > wrote: shanracer <no_reply > Re: A question about lord Siva and Vishnu Saturday, 16 May, 2009, 3:33 AM @ s.com, aumji <no_reply@.. .> wrote: > > I think since Vishnu is the preserver, and he is God for the running >of the universe, he is shown decorated and needs a wife to comfort him, >depicting the running of universe. Here Laxmi is the force which runs >the day to day working of the world, and vishnu sees to it that it >works well. Can I just add, Vishnu is a code name for the Universal mind, or Cosmic Intelligence, that runs the world. Vishnu is shown lying above a sea, which is the manifest world. This is showing, that while Vishnu runs the world, he is far above it. Vishnu is shown just lying around, meaning he is full of bliss, & is running the world with only a small part of his Cosmic Mind. Lakshmi serving him, maybe seen as a bit of a joke. All the world wants Lakshmi- wealth, power, beauty, to become their slave. Yet Lakshmi only serves Vishnu, who is above the world, & hence has no need of her! It can also show that Shakti only serves Her Lord, that we can never really hope to control her while we remain in human form. One thing is, Vishnu is shown sleep on a snake, while Shiva wears one around his neck. I wonder why that is? luv, Shantnu Bring your gang together. Do your thing.. Find your favourite group at http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 , aumji <no_reply wrote: thanks gopalji and aumji for answering my question. jaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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