Question-49 what is/are the ways to win Mother Maya

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Friday, May 1, 2009 4:46:17 PM

Question-49 what is/are the ways to win Mother Maya

 

 

 

 

 

HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN

 

1. Do we really get WIN over Mother Maya,if so than How.

2. Is it necessary to get WIN over Mother Maya for Moksha.

3. What is/are the ways to get WIN Over Mother Maya

4. Who made Mother Maya God or Human. Though human is also God, but i am talking

human like us whose body is temporary and affected by Three Gunas of Nature.

 

HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHAN, HARE KRISHAN, KRISHAN

KRISHAN, HARE HARE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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there r only 2 religio in the world : dwait and adwaith.

 

dwait says god is different from man which is untrue.

 

adwaith says man is part of god which is scientifically provable.

 

eveything is part of god so also maya is aprt of god,and

when we realsie we r part of god,that itself is the greatest

knowledge and salvation.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/4/09, Vivek B. <shreeom wrote:

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> Pray to the Divine Mother. Your questions will be answered once faith

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> jitendra kumar <jtin_ja <jtin_ja%40.co.in>>

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> Friday, May 1, 2009 4:46:17 PM

> Question-49 what is/are the ways to win Mother Maya

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> HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN

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> 1. Do we really get WIN over Mother Maya,if so than How.

> 2. Is it necessary to get WIN over Mother Maya for Moksha.

> 3. What is/are the ways to get WIN Over Mother Maya

> 4. Who made Mother Maya God or Human. Though human is also God, but i am

> talking human like us whose body is temporary and affected by Three Gunas of

> Nature.

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> HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHAN, HARE KRISHAN, KRISHAN

> KRISHAN, HARE HARE

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

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> HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN

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> 1. Do we really get WIN over Mother Maya,if so than How.

> 2. Is it necessary to get WIN over Mother Maya for Moksha.

> 3. What is/are the ways to get WIN Over Mother Maya

> 4. Who made Mother Maya God or Human. Though human is also God, but i >am

talking human like us whose body is temporary and affected by Three >Gunas of

Nature.

 

 

Jitendarji, these are intelligent questions, but there are no simple answers.

 

Understanding Maya is understanding our own True nature- Im using the word Maya

in its original context- as Gods magical power, his Lila & not in the later

meaning of illusion.

 

You cant defeat or win over Maya, as it is not something external to us- it is

our own mind that has created this duality from unity. As such trying to fight

Maya is trying to fight our own self. Its like the story of a man who went

looking for his donkey through the town, till it was pointed out to him he was

sitting on it!

 

The best way to understand Maya is to ask her to show you her secrets. All the

great Yogis worshipped Ma Shakti in 1 form or the other, like Yogananda, Sri

Aurobindo. Ramakrishna Paramhansa achieved the final state in 3 days, while it

took his Guru 30 years-because he had blessing of the Divine Mother.

 

TO understand Maya is to understand why we are here- no easy task!

 

luv,

Shantnu

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, " Vivek B. " <shreeom wrote:

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> Pray to the Divine Mother. Your questions will be answered once faith

>develops

 

, " Vivek B. " <shreeom wrote:

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> Pray to the Divine Mother. Your questions will be answered once faith

>develops

 

Vivekji, maybe we should just delete this club, so everyone can sit & pray?

 

The purpose of this club is so people can discuss their doubts with each other.

 

 

luv,

Shantnu

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

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> HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN

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dear co-travellers,

 

very good discussion going on & shanracer's reply is really great!!

 

> 1. Do we really get WIN over Mother Maya,if so than How.

 

Is there really any need to win Maya? in my opinion there is nothing to be

won but to understand and accept!

 

> 2. Is it necessary to get WIN over Mother Maya for Moksha.

 

Nobody has ever really won Maya till date and such winning is not

necessary for Moksha!

 

>3. What is/are the ways to get WIN Over Mother Maya.

 

Since we can not win Maya, we can get Shakti's grace who helps us understand

and transcend Maya, the only way is getting her grace by bhakti, karma gyan and

surrender all together in a beautiful combination.

 

> 4. Who made Mother Maya God or Human. Though human is also God, but i am

talking human like us whose body is temporary and affected by Three Gunas of

Nature.

 

Maya is illusory power of Adi Shakti and is not made...as it is manifestation

of Adi shakti.... who has an acceptance from Shiva for this illusion.

 

Shanracer's reply best suits here that those who transcend the 5 tattawas and

mind, automatically transcend Maya and reach the realms of Mahamaya.

 

Maya maha thhagini hum jaani

 

panda ke murat ban baithhi,

 

tirath mein bhayi paani

 

Ka ke ghar lachhmi ban baithi

 

ka ke footi kaani (poverty)

 

brhma ke ban brahmani baithi

 

shiv ke bhavan Bhavani

 

Maya maha thhagini hum jaani

 

Kehat kabir suno bhai sadho

 

bujho ye akathh kahani

 

Maya maha thagini hum jaani

 

(Kabir)

 

Here thhagiini is not in bad sense but means great illusionary/cheater

 

 

Aum

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

 

> dear co-travellers,

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> very good discussion going on & shanracer's reply is really great!!

 

Thanks aumji, & welcome back!

 

Also, could you please translate Kabirs poem into english, as we have many

non-hindi readers?

 

love,

Shantnu

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Dear friends,

 

It is great and heartening to see our Aumji back with his post, he has returned

with a bang! Thanks and best wishes to Aumji.

 

Regards,

 

Thimmappa.

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> Maya maha thhagini hum jaani

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> Kehat kabir suno bhai sadho

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> bujho ye akathh kahani

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> Maya maha thagini hum jaani

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HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN

 

THANKS TO ALL THE SADHAKAS FOR GREAT SATSANG

 

AUM SIR JI, SHANTANU SIR JI, M.S.THIMMAPPA SIR JI, GOPAL SIR JI, VIVEK SIR JI,

AND TO ALL THE SADHAKS WHOMEVER IS READING THE MEASSAGES

 

 

IT is the subject of great happiness that AUM Sir ji has joined the Satsang with

all the Bhaktas.

 

Sir Ji please continue to enlighten us. Your knowledge has a lot of potential to

clear the darkness of ignorance and to fill the lightness of wisdom, which is

exactly required for any sadhaka.

 

perhaps i am not able to express how much i have learned from this site ie from

all the Sadhakas.

 

Thanks to all for valuable answers.

 

 

HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHAN, HARE KRISHAN, HARE

KRISHAN, KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE

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Dear Shantnuji,

 

Your explanation of Maya was enlightening. The concluding paragraph advised

surrender and prayer. Devotion with Gyana is the method of progress. As a bird

cannot fly with one wing, each without the other will stall progress.

 

Having Jigyasa is the first step towards spirituality. Sanshaya is never good.

 

Idiots are those who know 'dhai akshar of prem' and these leads to them becoming

'pandits'.

 

love

 

Vivek