Everything Can Be Utilized for Krishna Srila Prabhupada Gives Bhagabad-Gita Class 10-07-73London, Bhagavad-gita 1.4-5

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" Everything (Even Dictatorship)

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73/07/10 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.4-5

 

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Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc):

 

atra sura mahesvasa

bhimarjuna-sama yudhi

yuyudhano viratas ca

drupadas ca maha-rathah

[bg. 1.4]

 

Translation: " Here in this army there are many heroic bowmen equal in

fighting to Bhima and Arjuna; there are also great fighters like Yuyudhana,

Virata and Drupada. "

 

Prabhupada: So all these heroes are mentioned not only in this verse, in

several other verses also. So people may ask that " By mentioning these great

fighter, what spiritual progress we make? Because we are meant for chanting Hare

Krsna maha-mantra, so by chanting the names of these great fighters, what do we

gain? " The question may be raised there. But the thing is that nirbandhah

krsna-sambandhe, whenever there is connection with Krsna, that also becomes

Krsna. This is a subtle form of philosophical understanding. Nirbandhah

krsna-sambandhe. If there is relationship with Krsna... Therefore the sahajiyas,

they do not read Bhagavad-gita. They say, " We have nothing to do with

Bhagavad-gita. " They jump over to the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Tenth Canto, Krsna's

rasa-lila, as if Krsna is connected with rasa-lila and not with this lila. They

make distinction. Krsna's this fighting lila, pastimes, and the rasa-lila

pastime, they are all the same because Krsna is the center. Krsna being center,

whatever in connection with Krsna is there, that becomes also Krsna. This is the

idea.

 

anasaktasya visayan

yatharham upayunjatah

nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe

yuktam vairagyam ucyate

 

This is the instruction of Srila Rupa Gosvami in his

Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu.

 

So just like we, in propagating Krsna consciousness, we have to deal with

money or persons who are not Krsna conscious, outsider. We have to deal with

them. But when we go to outsider or when we deal with money, there is

relationship with Krsna, krsna-sambandha. So Rupa Gosvami has distinguished

the...

 

prapancikataya buddhya

hari-sambandhi-vastunah

mumuksubhih parityago

vairagyam phalgu kathyate

 

Prapancika means material. So prapancikataya buddhya

hari-sambandhi-vastunah. Everything has got connection with Krsna because

ultimately everything is Krsna's energy. The material world is also

manifestation of Krsna's energy. Bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh [bg. 7.4]. You'll find.

Material world means these five elements, gross and subtle. Earth, water, air,

fire, sky, these are gross. And mind, intelligence, and ego, these are subtle.

These elements, material elements, Krsna says, bhinna me prakrtir astadha:

" These material elements, they are separated, but they are My energy. They are

My energy. " The same example. Just like cloud. Cloud is created by the sun. It

is sun's energy which creates the cloud. You know. By temperature the sea water

is evaporated, forms into gas. That is cloud. So cloud is created by the energy

of the sun, but when there is cloud you cannot see the sun. Sun is covered.

Similarly, material energy is Krsna's energy. But when you become covered by

this material energy, you do not see Krsna. This is the position.

 

So we have to use our intelligence. That is described by Srila Rupa

Gosvami: prapancikataya buddhya hari-sambandhi-vastunah, mumuksubhih parityagah.

Mumuksu, especially the Mayavadis, who are after liberation, to merge into the

existence of the Supreme, mumuksu, moksa, they, Mayavada, they say, " Everything

is maya. " Brahma satyam jagan mithya: " This world is false; only Brahman is

reality. " But we say that why the jagat, the world should be false if it is

coming from the reality? We do not agree with them. We do not accept that this

world is false. No. We can say, " It is temporary manifestation. " But it is not

false. Why it is false? We are living in this house. If somebody, some rascal,

says, " It is false, " why false? We are utilizing this house. We are utilizing

this microphone. We are utilizing the dictaphone. Why it is false? There is

sambandha. There is relationship with Krsna. Anything material, made of earth,

water, fire, air, they are Krsna's energies. Therefore there is direct

relationship with Krsna. And if Krsna is reality, why His energy should be

false? No. We must know how to utilize it.

 

So similarly, in this battlefield, Krsna is there, and all the living

entities... Some of them are soldiers, some of them are commander-in-chiefs,

some of them this, that. Or the chariot or the ground -- everything Krsna's

energy. So if we remember that everything is manifestation of Krsna's energy,

there is no question of materialism. It is all spiritual energy. So nirbandhah

krsna-sambandhe. So we have to use them for Krsna. Here all of of them have

gathered. This is another Krsna's energy. Krsna appears, paritranaya sadhunam

vinasaya ca duskrtam [bg. 4.8]. He wanted to kill all the demons. That is

another side of his business. As one side, paritranaya sadhunam, to give

protection to the devotees, the other side is to vanquish all the demons. Just

like if you want to grow paddy on the field, so first of all you have to destroy

all the unwanted weeds. Then you grow the seeds; it will come out nicely. So

these two things are required. Destruction and construction. Both the things are

Krsna's activities or different energies. So you cannot accept one thing, giving

up the other side. We have to understand that both sides, they are working as

different manifestation of Krsna's energy. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate

[Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]. In the Vedas it is said that the Absolute has got

multi-energies. So one energy is working in one way, another energy is working

in another way. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate, sva-bhaviki jnana-bala-kriya

ca. Just like here also, when we do something, we require varieties of energies

to make that thing perfect. So everything, Krsna, Krsna's, this material world

or spiritual world, everything is working in order, under different energies.

 

So these, I mean to say, warriors' name-mentioning, we should not neglect.

Krsna wanted to gather all the demoniac power in that Battlefield of Kuruksetra

and kill them. That was His plan. So there is a plan of Krsna. Nirbandhah

krsna-sambandhe. We should not be attached to things as there, but we should try

to understand that there is relationship with Krsna. And as soon as there is

relationship with Krsna, we shall properly utilize it. That is Krsna

consciousness. As soon as we understand that there is relationship with Krsna,

nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe... Everything can be utilized for Krsna. Krsna is not

a stereotyped, stagnant block. Krsna is a dynamic force. Therefore everything

can be dovetailed in the service of Krsna. Simply one should learn the art under

proper guidance how to utilize. Then that will be perfect form of Krsna

consciousness. Read next verse.

 

Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

 

dhrstaketus cekitanah

kasirajas ca viryavan

purujit kuntibhojas ca

saibyas ca nara-pungavah

 

Translation: " There are also great, heroic, powerful fighters like

Dhrstaketu, Cekitana, Kasiraja, Purujit, Kuntibhoja and Saibya. "

Prabhupada: Practically in the Battle of Kuruksetra great personalities,

warriors, from all parts of the world they came and joined. Some of them joined

with this party and others joined with the other party. So far we have

studied... just like Saibya, he belonged to Sibya. So all these personalities,

we did not get their full description, it would enhance the pages. But these big

personalities, we have got their information. There is a book, The Personalities

of Mahabharata. Bhagavad-gita is part of Mahabharata. Mahabharata means greater

India. Maha means greater, and bharata means India. So this whole planet was

Bharata-varsa. There was only one flag. The whole planet was being ruled by one

king. That is the king of this Hastinapura. The fight is that, that who would be

the king, Maharaja Yudhisthira or Duryodhana. But a king... It is not a

democratic; it is monarchy. So Krsna is deciding, " No, Duryodhana is unfit.

Maharaja Yudhisthira is fit. " This is Krsna's desire. Therefore this fight is

there. Kuruksetra. Krsna wanted to wipe out all unwanted demons from the face of

the world and enthrone Maharaja Yudhisthira because he is the exact

representative of Krsna.

 

So monarchy or dictatorship is welcome. Now the Communists, they want

dictatorship. That is welcome, provided that particular dictator is trained like

Maharaja Yudhisthira. Not that simply by votes of some rascal population one

becomes dictatorship, another rascal comes. Another big rascal comes. Just like

in the Communist country the Stalin was their dictator. And in the historical

record it is said that he is the greatest criminal in the history of the world.

Greatest criminal. He would not tolerate anyone going against him. As soon as he

finds that " This man is going against me, " immediately call him, " Now here is

poison and here is resignation. " Or kill him. " You take poison or I shall kill

you. " This was his policy. In this way he killed so many enemies. He not only

killed the Czar family. So his business was killing. Not that kind of

dictatorship wanted. Dictatorship wanted that by his direction the citizens will

be so happy that even they will not have any anxiety. Adhayo vyadhayah (?).

 

We have read the other day in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. There are three kinds

of miserable conditions of life, bhutatma-hetav ah. The cause... They are caused

by three principles: adhyatmika, adhibhautika, adhidaivika.

Daiva-bhutatma-hetavah. These are all described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Daiva

means controlled by the higher demigods. Just like famine or earthquake. This is

not under your control. At any time the earthquake, there may be. There may be

famine. There may be pestilence. There may be natural disturbance, flood. This

is called daiva, controlled by higher demigods. Just like Indra wanted to

overflood Vrndavana being angry upon the residents of the... Krsna saved,

Giridhari. He became Giridhari. So these disturbances are there. Adhyatmika,

adhibhautika. But the king or the dictator should be so perfect and he will

guide the citizens in such a way that they will not feel all these disturbances.

That kind of dictatorship wanted. He will direct in such a way that even this

natural adhyatmika, adhibhautika... Adhibhautika means " You are envious of me, I

am envious of you. " So there is always cold war, struggle. This should be

stopped. There should not be unnatural heat or unnatural cold, excessive heat.

People will feel in all respects happy.

 

If that condition can be brought in, like Maharaja Yudhisthira or his

forefathers, or even his grandson. After Maharaja Yudhisthira, there was no

kingdom of Maharaja Yud..., of the son of Yudhisthira or Arjuna. All died in the

Battlefield of Kuruksetra. Only one grandson was in the womb of his mother,

posthumous child. He was saved only. So up to that point, Maharaja Pariksit, the

whole planet was very nicely governed by dictatorship. So we can bring in such

dictatorship, provided that dictator is perfectly Krsna conscious. Under his

guidance, everything... Because he knows how to conduct kingdom, how to make

everyone happy. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe. So here is another list of fighters.

But the real purpose of this battlefield is to bring all the fighters, big

fighters of the world, together. And under Krsna's guidance they would be all

killed. Nimitta-matram bhava savyasacin. When Arjuna was declining to fight,

Krsna ultimately said, " My dear Arjuna, you fight or not fight, it doesn't

matter. These people are not going back home. It is already settled up. You

simply become, take the credit that you have fought and killed. It is al... They

are already killed. Because that is My plan. " Nimitta-matram bhava savyasacin.

They are already killed.

 

So this battlefield, because Krsna wanted to kill them, and the result was

-- you will find in the Bhagavad-gita, they all attained svarupa. Anyone who was

killed, who died in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, in the presence of Krsna,

they all attained their original, constitutional position, spiritual form. They

all went back to home, back to Godhead, everyone. Therefore Krsna is Absolute.

Either His killing or His protecting, it is all the same. You don't think that

Krsna is killing. No. If anyone is killed by Krsna, he immediately gets

liberation: the liberation for which great great saintly persons, sages, they

undergo severe austerities for life after life, simply by being killed, he gets

that. So by becoming Krsna's enemy, one gets this benefit. Just think over if

you become Krsna's friend, what is the benefit. That is Krsna consciousness. The

Mayavadis they are after liberation. So this liberation is granted even to the

enemies of Krsna. They are also enemies. The Mayavadis, they are also enemies.

Krsne aparadhi. They are offender to Krsna because they do not accept the form

of Krsna. Therefore they are offender. So everything studied in relationship

with Krsna, that is perfect knowledge, and that is described in the

Bhagavad-gita. So it is not that like sahajiyas that we are interested in

Krsna's rasa dance, not with this fighting in the Battlefields of Kuruksetra.

This is sahajiya-bhava. This is not wanted. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna.

(end)

 

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