On the mind

November 19, 2008

Namaste,

Since we are discussing about the mind, I would like to put an old

post I wrote that deals with this topic. It introduces the Yoga

Sutras, & explains how to transcend the mind:

I would like to post a few verses from the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali,

to give an introduction to these masterful verses. I cant comment on

every verse, but hopefully give a good idea of what Yoga is about.

It is said the 1st shloka explains the whole of Yoga- if you

understand it, there is no need to read the other ones.

I will give a little Sanskrit. I know most people dont know it, but

pls be patient, as there is a reason for this. The 1st verse is:

Yoga Chit Vritti Nirodham

This has been translated variously.

Yoga- Union, Oneness, Godness

Chit- Mind, mind stuff, thoughts, feelings

Vritti- Thoughts, feelings, disturbances

Nirodham- destroy, silence, calm

So the translation of the sutra maybe " Yoga is silencing of

mind-stuff " or " Yoga is destroying the thoughts & mind " . The 2nd,

given by an academic, is very obivously wrong.

1st is Chit- its not the mind, especially mind as meant by western

science. It is more of the mind stuff- the combination of

Ahankar(ego), sense based emotional mind(manas), Buddhi(intelligence)

& Chitta(here meaning the sub-concious, but again not how

psychologists define that term, but sub-concious as our hidden

awareness that has the power to become Super-Conciousness).

Vrittis can be described as disturbances- the way there are waves on

an ocean or lake.

Nirodham is the most important word. The dictionary meaning maybe

cancelling or destruction, but thats not the meaning in this context.

The meaning is calming, silencing.

So the 1st Sutra is better translated as:

" Yoga is the calming/control of the disturbances of the mind/Chit " .

An important note is- this calming/control is not done by the ego, but

our inner power of awareness. When we bring awareness into all our

thoughts & actions, the mind automatically becomes calm. The natural

state of the mind is one of Calmness, light & knowledge. Mind

represents pure Satogun. The current mind has become diseased. This

disease has to be removed by putting the mind back into its original

state of silence & peace by Nirodha, or complete control by the power

of awareness.

The mind is not extinguised or killed in Yoga, as many commentators

seem to think. Rather what is destroyed are the disturbances, which

are stopping the mind from working perfectly- the perfect mind can

perfectly reflect God, like a crystal.

Nirodha is a very important word in Yoga- Asana(or Yoga postures) are

Nirodha of the body, or controlling of the body by power of awareness.

In Asana the body is put in its original state of calmness & purity.

Pranayam is the Nirodha of the Pran. The Pran or life force is calmed

& controlled by power of awareness.

Related to Pranayam is Pratyahar, or Nirodha of senses, in which the

outgoing energies of the senses are controlled by awareness & then

turned inside.

Only then can the mind be controlled. When the mind is controlled by

awareness, then Yoga, or Union with God, occurs.

A good example is like waves on a lake. Due to these waves, we cannot

see the bottom. When the waves stop, the surface becomes clear & we

can see the hidden bottom of the lake.

Similary, when the waves of non-stop thoughts ceases, we can see the

hidden source of our mind, which is Pure Conciousness-Bliss.

with love

Shantnu

November 19, 2008

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> Since we are discussing about the mind, I would like to put an old

> post I wrote that deals with this topic. It introduces the Yoga

> Sutras, & explains how to transcend the mind:

Namaste,

The 1st verse of Yoga Sutras gives the negative definition of yoga-

Yoga occurs when the disturbances of mind are calmed, & it is brought

into complete control by the power of awareness.

The 2nd verse of the Sutras gives the positive defintion of Yoga:

" Then the Seer rests in His own Nature "

The mind is like a mirror- it relfects whatever is placed near it, but

has no existence of its own. At the moment, our mind identifies with

the several vrittis(disturbances, caused by lifetimes of identifying

with our actions) that automatically arise. Our awareness identifies

with the body/mind due to these vrittis.

When these disturbances are calmed, the mind starts relfecting the

Pure Light of Conciousness, whose source is the Purusha(God) beyond

the manifest universe. At this stage, our mind realises that it was

God(through his light of awareness) that was doing all the work

through us. It is here that the Vedic Rishis spoke

" Aham Brahmasmi " I am the Pure Spirit!

" Tat-twam-asi " - You are THAT (which you worship)

The mind here doesnt become a dead, impotent instrument. Rather it

becomes more powerful, as now it can correctly analyse the material

world. At the moment, our mind sees eveything through colored glasses,

forcing its own interpretation on everything. The pure, freed mind

sees the world as it is, pure energy created & maintained by Gods

power. The mind here becomes like a crystal - it relfects everything

placed near it, yet is not modified by these external objects.

Thats why Patanajli says, the Seer, that is our Real Self, the soul,

rests in its own nature, which is one of

Truth-Conciousness-Bliss(Sat-chit-anand).

with love

Shantnu

November 19, 2008

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

Thanks shantnu for simplifying the yoga sutras. Does your post also

replied to my querry on " Can we transcend mind by rejecting or

suppressing it ? "

I hope stilling of mind is certainly not rejection or suppressing it

Aummm

November 19, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> I hope stilling of mind is certainly not rejection or suppressing it

>

Aummmji, the mind is an instrument of Sattva- in its natural state it

is calm, silent & peaceful. The reason most people mind is agitated is

because Rajas & Tamas have invaded it, & made it, so to speak, sick.

It is this sick mind that troubles us so much. But rather than trying

to kill it, its better to heal it!

People say they find it hard to concentrate- yet people have almost

never excercised the mind. If you dont use any of your muscles, pretty

soon they start decaying & dying- thats why it is necesary to

excercise a little daily. Similarly, it is also necessary to excercise

the mind by meditating. If the mind is strong & healthy(ie full of

Sattva), it will not give us so much trouble.

The way to heal the mind is to take it back to its natural state of

calmness. Since the mind, body & Pran are related, this cannot be done

if the body or Pran have negativity in them. Thats why an all rounded,

intergal Yoga practice is necessary.

with love

Shantnu

November 20, 2008

Since we're on the topic, here's a quote from Ramana Maharishi...

Q 8: What is the nature of the mind?

Ramana: What is called 'mind' is a wondrous power residing in the

Self. It causes all thoughts to arise. Apart from thoughts, there is

no such thing as mind. Therefore, thought is the nature of mind.

Apart from thoughts, there is no independent entity called the world.

In deep sleep there are no thoughts, and there is no world. In the

states of waking and dream, there are thoughts, and there is a world

also. Just as the spider emits the thread (of the web) out of itself

and again withdraws it into itself, likewise the mind projects the

world out of itself and again resolves it into itself. When the mind

comes out of the Self, the world appears. Therefore, when the world

appears (to be real), the Self does not appear; and when the Self

appears (shines) the world does not appear. When one persistently

inquires into the nature of the mind, the mind will end leaving the

Self (as the residue). What is referred to as the Self is the Atman.

The mind always exists only

in dependence on something gross; it cannot stay alone. It is the

mind that is called the subtle body or the soul (jiva).

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> , aumji <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

>

> > I hope stilling of mind is certainly not rejection or suppressing

it

> >

>

November 20, 2008

, satishvijayan <no_reply wrote:

> in dependence on something gross; it cannot stay alone. It is the

> mind that is called the subtle body or the soul (jiva).

Thanks Satishji for this enlightening post from Shri Ramana.

will you explain further that " It is the mind that is called the

subtle body or the soul " ....???

aum

November 20, 2008

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

> Aummmji, the mind is an instrument of Sattva- in its natural state

it is calm, silent & peaceful.

thanks.... Is mind not manifested by pure Raj-guna ? or may be mind in

pure sattava not called Mind but something else ?

please explain further

Aum

November 20, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

> thanks.... Is mind not manifested by pure Raj-guna ? or may be mind >in

> pure sattava not called Mind but something else ?

The mind proper(Manas), which could be the part of our brain that

controls the senses, is said to be manfisted from Rajoguna, which is

why is is always running about.

Buddhi, or intelligence, which I meant, is made from Satoguna. But in

the Higher Mind, buddhi predominates. Such a mind is calm, collected &

silent.

There are many models to explain this: One model says, body is made of

Tamoguna, Pran of Rajoguna, Mind of Sattvaguna.

Another model divides the mind further into Ego(Tamoguna), Manas(raj)

& Buddhi(Sat).

These are all models, which only approximate the Truth. Which model to

use when depends on situation.

love

Shantnu

November 25, 2008

The Jiva is the SELF (Paramatma) enveloped in Maya/ego. It exists

because of our delusion that we have an existance apart from God. The

mind exists as long as we believe in our seperateness. The Mind

causes the souls to be born and the subtle/gross bodies to exist.

In essense once the mind realizes the SELF - the seperate soul, the

subtle bodies, the world - everything is seen as delusion. Everything

but the ONE SELF disappears. The soul dissolves into the Self once

the mind ends.

" Yat-sakshat-karanad bhaven-na punaravritthir bhavan-bho-nidhau "

" After direct experience of which (the SELF) there is no return to

the ocean of worldy existence "

Rgds

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The above is my interpretation based on what little I've read of

Ramana Maharishi's sayings and the last line is from the

Dakshinamurthy stotram as interpreted by Swami Sivananda.

Rgds

Satish

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> , satishvijayan <no_reply@> wrote:

> > in dependence on something gross; it cannot stay alone. It is the

> > mind that is called the subtle body or the soul (jiva).

>

> Thanks Satishji for this enlightening post from Shri Ramana.

>

> will you explain further that " It is the mind that is called the

> subtle body or the soul " ....???

>

> aum

>

December 15, 2008

Namaste all.

I like to add more 'on the mind' from the 'Bhikshu Gita' of

Bhagavata Purana:

" My joys or sorrows are not due to these people, nor the gods,

nor my body, not the planets, nor my karma or kala (time).

The scriptures declare the mind alone to be the cause of both of

these and indeed it is the mind alone which perpetuates the

repeated cycle of birth and death.

The mind is very powerful, and actuates the mental states which then

evolve into the various kinds of karma leading to the various states

of existence according to the " quality " of the karma.

Mind is the initiator of all activity. Therefore, the supreme goal

of all spiritual enterprises, whether it be charity, practice of

one's duties, yoga, study of the Vedas, celibacy or fasting, is the

subjugation of the mind. "

" In fact, one whose mind is peace with itself, what is he to gain

by meritorious activities like charity etc? On the other hand one

whose mind is still uncontrolled, even though he may be

performing these meritorious deeds, has still not gained anything

by them.

All sense organs are under the sway of the mind, however, the mind

is under the control of none of these. This mind is the strongest of

the strongest, and one who is able to bring it under control is

truly the god of gods (deva-deva). "

" An undisciplined mind is the greatest of all enemies. Its attack

is almost unbearable. Not only does it torment the body, but also

afflicts the softer portions (like the heart) of our inner being.

It is difficult to defeat the mind. However, this is the first

enemy man should try and win over; but what happens is that man

does not try to win over his own mind rather he tries to establish

blame for his good/bad situation on extraneous circumstances or

people. If I see that the people who give me charity are the cause

of my happiness and those who harass me are the cause of my distress

then I am merely absorbed in the bodily concept of life and am able

to scrape only the surface of life rather than grasp its ultimate

core. "

The beggar then set out to systematically outline each of the

factors which logically could be said to have been the cause

behind his suffering, and through a thorough analysis showed why

none of these could eventually be the ultimate cause of his

distress.

The brahmin said: " If we hold other human beings responsible for

our happiness or distress, then how does it affect out True Self

(atman) which is immaterial, while both the perpetrator and the

sufferer are but bodies made of the same dust. If ever a man

bites his own tongue with his teeth, then on whom would he lay

the blame for the pain he would experience? "

The Self remains beyond both the body and the mind. This Self

neither fattens with the body nor shares the joy or sorrows of

the mind. The outside world can only affect the body and the mind

and never the Self. When the body of a person is garlanded his

mind is elated, and when his form is kicked, it is the mind again

which rebels. The Self is just the witness to his insult and joy.

from: Divine_Lovers/message/1606

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> Namaste,

>

> Since we are discussing about the mind, I would like to put an old

> post I wrote that deals with this topic.

December 16, 2008

Respected Pyari_h and all other venerable Sadhaks,

Jai Gurudev,

Sadar Pranaam,

As very rightly said by Respected Pyari_h,

" The Self remains beyond both the body and the mind. This Self neither fattens

with the body nor shares the joy or sorrows of the mind. The outside world can

only affect the body and the mind and never the Self. When the body of a person

is garlanded his mind is elated, and when his form is kicked, it is the mind

again which rebels. The Self is just the witness to his insult and joy. "

For the above true fact, just one basic question I have always been wondering,

" WHY IS THE SELF WITNESSING EVERYTHING DONE BY/TO ONE'S MIND/BODY ? IS THIS THE

ONLY WORK IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THE SOUL ENTERS THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE...TO

KEEP A TRACK OF THE THINGS DONE TO/FROM THE MIND AND BODY WITH WHICH IT IS

SUPPOSED TO REMAIN ? "

With Regards,

Prabhat

December 16, 2008

Namaste all. Thanks Prabhatji for your intersting question.

Before we go into deeper discussion let me add more 'on the mind'

from other valuable sources.

Here is a thoughtful verse to reflect upon:

mana mAyA te hI banyo, mAyA te sansAra,

yAte mana bhAvata sadA yaha sansAra asAra! '

The mind has been created by Maya and the

material world is also a visible product of Maya!

Therefore, the mind has spontaneous

affinity to the material world!

So always reflect upon this fact and realize

the material world is devoid of spiritual essence.

- Bhakti Shatak, 36

Similar philosophical facts are also revealed in the verses

of Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam.

yad idaM manasA vAcA

cakSurbhyAM zravaNAdibhiH

nazvaraM gRhyamANaM ca

viddhi mAyA-mano-mayaM

SB 11.7.7

Lord Krishna said :

My dear Uddhava, the entire universe that you perceive through your

mind, speech, eyes, ears and other senses is an illusory creation

that one accepts to be real due to the influence of maya.

In fact, you should know that all of the objects of the material

world are temporary and unreal, and the mind is pervaded by the

illusion of Maya.

naitad vastutayA pazyed

dRzyamAnaM vinaSyati

asakta-citto viramed

ihAmutra-cikIrSitAt

yad etad Atmani jagan

mano-vAk-prANa-saMhatam

sarvaM mAyeti tarkeNa

sva-sthas tyaktvA na tat smaret

SB 11.18. 26, 27

One should never see as real the material objects and subjects which

obviously will perish. With heart and mind free from attachment to

unreal, one should retire from all activities meant for temporary

results in this life and the next.

One should logically consider the material universe which appears to

be existing for the spirit soul, and one's own material body composed

of mind, speech and life-breath, to be ultimately products of the

Lord's illusory power.

Being situated in one's own spirit self, one should give up these

material things and one should never think of nor even remember them.

Whatever power, beauty, fame, opulence, humility, renunciation,

sacredness, pleasure, fortune, strength, tolerance or wisdom there

may be, is simply an expansion of My great power of Maya.

I have briefly described to you all great material features of My

creation, which are perceived by each individual material mind and

expressed in different ways according to its own perversions,

as the mind itself is Mayic and not spiritual.

11.16. 40, 41

manaH sRjati vai dehAn

guNAn karmANi cAtmanaH

tan manaH sRjate mAyA

tato jIvasya saMsRtiH

The different material bodies, good or bad qualities and pious or

impious desires as well as activities of the spirit soul are all

created by the material mind.

That mind itself is created by the illusory power of the Supreme

Lord, and thus the living being assumes unreal material existence.

SB 12.5.6

The Lord said:

In Bhagavad Gita 7.4:

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence

and false ego -- all together these eight constitute My separated

material energies.

Bhagavad Gita 7.5: Besides these, O mighty-armed Arjuna, there is

another, superior energy of Mine, which comprises the living entities

who are utilizing the resources of this material, inferior nature.

mana eva manuSyANAM karaNaM bandha mokshayaH

- Pancadazi, Sri Vidyaranya Swami

Mind alone is the cause of bondage and liberation.

Bhagavatam also says:

cetaH khalvasya bandhAya muktaye cAtmano matam,

guNeSu saktaM bandhAya rataM vA puMsi muktaye

Bhagavatam 3.25.15

The stage in which the mental consciousness of the living being is

attached by the three modes of material nature is called conditional

life.

But when that same consciousness is attached to the Supreme Person,

the living being is free in liberation.

A few quotes from 'Viveka Chudamani' by Adi Jagadguru Sri

Shankaraacharya in this regard:

There is no such thing as ignorance beyond the thinking mind.

Thought is itself ignorance, the cause of the bondage of becoming.

When thought is eliminated, everything else is eliminated.

When thought increases everything else increases. 169

In deep sleep when the thinking mind has gone into abeyance

there is nothing, by every one's experience,

so man's Samsara is a mind creation, and has no real existence. 171

Cloud is gathered by the wind, and is driven away by it too.

Bondage is imagined by the mind, and liberation is imagined by it

too. 172

By dwelling with desire on the body and other senses

the mind binds a man like an animal with a rope, and

the same mind liberates him from the bond by creating

simple distaste for the senses as if they were poison. 173

- Viveka Chudamani - Jagadguru Sri Adi Shankara Acarya

----

Jaya Sri Radhe!

from: Divine_Lovers/message/1251

, pyari_h <no_reply wrote:

> I like to add more 'on the mind' from the 'Bhikshu Gita' of

> Bhagavata Purana:

>

> " My joys or sorrows are not due to these people, nor the gods,

> nor my body, not the planets, nor my karma or kala (time).

>

> The scriptures declare the mind alone to be the cause of both of

> these and indeed it is the mind alone which perpetuates the

> repeated cycle of birth and death.

>

> The mind is very powerful, and actuates the mental states which

then

> evolve into the various kinds of karma leading to the various

states

> of existence according to the " quality " of the karma.

>

> Mind is the initiator of all activity. Therefore, the supreme goal

> of all spiritual enterprises, whether it be charity, practice of

> one's duties, yoga, study of the Vedas, celibacy or fasting, is

the

> subjugation of the mind. "

>

December 26, 2008

Namaste all. Here are a few more interesting verses from Srimad

Bhagavatam describing the 'mind' and its place in Spiritual Sadhana.

SB 5.6.2: Srila Sukadeva Gosvami replied: My dear King, you have

spoken correctly. However, after capturing animals, a cunning hunter

does not put faith in them, for they might run away.

Similarly, those who are advanced in spiritual life do not put faith

in the mind. Indeed, they always remain vigilant and watch the mind's

action.

SB 5.6.3: All the learned scholars have given their opinion.

The mind is by nature very restless, and one should not make friends

with it.

If we place full confidence in the mind, it may cheat us at any

moment.

Even Lord Siva became agitated upon seeing the Mohini form of Lord

Krishna, and Saubhari Muni also fell down from the mature stage of

yogic perfection.

SB 5.6.4: An unchaste woman is very easily carried away by paramours,

and it sometimes happens that her husband is violently killed by her

paramours.

If the yogi gives his mind a chance and does not restrain it, his

mind will give facility to enemies like lust, anger and greed, and

they will doubtlessly kill the yogi.

SB 5.6.5: The mind is the root cause of lust, anger, pride, greed,

lamentation, illusion and fear.

Combined, these constitute bondage to fruitive activity.

What learned man would put faith in the mind?

translation from: bhagavatam.net

Jaya Sri Radhe!

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> mana mAyA te hI banyo, mAyA te sansAra,

> yAte mana bhAvata sadA yaha sansAra asAra! '

>

> The mind has been created by Maya and the

> material world is also a visible product of Maya!

>

> Therefore, the mind has spontaneous

> affinity to the material world!

>

> So always reflect upon this fact and realize

> the material world is devoid of spiritual essence.

>

> - Bhakti Shatak, 36

>

> Similar philosophical facts are also revealed in the verses

> of Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam.

>

> yad idaM manasA vAcA

> cakSurbhyAM zravaNAdibhiH

> nazvaraM gRhyamANaM ca

> viddhi mAyA-mano-mayaM

>

> SB 11.7.7

>

> Lord Krishna said :

>

> My dear Uddhava, the entire universe that you perceive through your

> mind, speech, eyes, ears and other senses is an illusory creation

> that one accepts to be real due to the influence of maya.

>

> In fact, you should know that all of the objects of the material

> world are temporary and unreal, and the mind is pervaded by the

> illusion of Maya.

>

December 27, 2008

A famous Upanishadic statement on Mind:

manayeva manushyanam karanam bandha mokshayoh

bandhaya vishaya sanghe mokshai nirvishayam manah.

Mind is the cause for bondage and liberation in people;

Mind bound with the object of the senses is bondage, mind free of such

objects is liberation.

, pyari_h <no_reply wrote:

>

> Namaste all. Here are a few more interesting verses from Srimad

> Bhagavatam describing the 'mind' and its place in Spiritual

December 29, 2008

Respected Shri Thimmappa ji,

Jai Gurudev,

Sadar Pranaam,

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful fact.

One question that comes to my mind is that by " bondage " , whose bondage are we

talking about - the bondage of the Mind or the Soul ? I think it should be our

Soul which is trying to free oneself since so many lifetimes. But why is our

Soul (which is a reflection of GOD and is so, so powerful) caught in our Mind's

trap. For Atman, mind should be like a weak link which the Atman can break

anytime, but still, why is it taking so much time for the Soul to break this

bondage link and be Free, which is actually it's real nature. Why our mind

(whose property is to run after sense objects) seems to be overpowering over our

Soul ?

With Regards,

Prabhat

--- On Sat, 27/12/08, M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams wrote:

M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams

Re: On the mind

Saturday, 27 December, 2008, 3:47 PM

A famous Upanishadic statement on Mind:

manayeva manushyanam karanam bandha mokshayoh

bandhaya vishaya sanghe mokshai nirvishayam manah.

Mind is the cause for bondage and liberation in people;

Mind bound with the object of the senses is bondage, mind free of such

objects is liberation.

@ s.com, pyari_h <no_reply@.. .> wrote:

>

> Namaste all. Here are a few more interesting verses from Srimad

> Bhagavatam describing the 'mind' and its place in Spiritual

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December 29, 2008

Dear Prabhat Guptaji,

It is a bondage created by the Mind for its own sake, a sort of an

excuse to hold on to itself. In other words, Mind 'thinks' that it is

in bondage as it is convenient to do so for it to remain in the world

it has created out of sensory experiences of the external world only.

It has become the Mind's identity, the center of which is the ego.Soul

is merely a witness to this drama/misdemeanor! Soul has given me the

freedom to be in (or return to) its source or move away and build a

fictitious world/identity (and end up in misery) . I must live/choose

the magnificently rich and unique identity the Nature itself has

endowed me rather than living the mythical identity my ego has dished

up with its owe fully limited tool. I must surrender this 'lower self'

( ego ) of mine to the Higher self of mine that is the Soul and get

guided/directed by the Higher. All along, Soul is unsullied and ever

powerful. We must access it, be it, go by it to be equally pure and

powerful. We must exercise our choice, the price we have to pay for

the freedom granted, to evolve or doomed. Soul is helpful either way,

for our choice!!It is our ego and its ownership and doer ship it

boasts that is the bondage. Living by Soul is freedom, ease and

effortless, as we are taken care( or let ourself to be taken care ) by

the mighty mighty Him! Of course, even otherwise we are taken care by

Him only, but we make it difficult for ourselves!

Thanks for the interest and kindling it further.

Regards,

M.S.Thimmappa.

, Prabhat Gupta <suprabhat_1999 wrote:

>

> Respected Shri Thimmappa ji,

>

> Jai Gurudev,

>

> Sadar Pranaam,

>

> Thanks for sharing such a wonderful fact.

>

> One question that comes to my mind is that by " bondage " , whose

bondage are we talking about - the bondage of the Mind or the Soul ? I

think it should be our Soul which is trying to free oneself since so

many lifetimes. But why is our Soul (which is a reflection of GOD and

is so, so powerful) caught in our Mind's trap. For Atman, mind should

be like a weak link which the Atman can break anytime, but still, why

is it taking so much time for the Soul to break this bondage link and

be Free, which is actually it's real nature. Why our mind (whose

property is to run after sense objects) seems to be overpowering over

our Soul ?

>

> With Regards,

>

> Prabhat

>

> --- On Sat, 27/12/08, M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams wrote:

> M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams

> Re: On the mind

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> Saturday, 27 December, 2008, 3:47 PM

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A famous Upanishadic statement on Mind:

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> manayeva manushyanam karanam bandha mokshayoh

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> bandhaya vishaya sanghe mokshai nirvishayam manah.

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> Mind is the cause for bondage and liberation in people;

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> Mind bound with the object of the senses is bondage, mind free of such

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> objects is liberation.

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> @ s.com, pyari_h <no_reply@ .> wrote:

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> > Namaste all. Here are a few more interesting verses from Srimad

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> > Bhagavatam describing the 'mind' and its place in Spiritual

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December 29, 2008

Respected Shri Thimmappa ji,

Jai Gurudev,

Sadar Pranaam,

Thanks for enlightening me and removing the dark clouds of doubt that were

hovering within the boundaries of my mind and were covering my limitless Soul.

With Regards,

Prabhat

--- On Mon, 29/12/08, M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams wrote:

M.S.Thimmappa. <thimmappams

Re: On the mind

Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:53 AM