Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Can prayers defeat Karma ? two examples around me are worth mentioning. Subject A was a woman of 40 having 2 little children. she was diagnosed with cancer and doctors gave her just a month of life. All around her prayed and requested god to give her some time so that she could see her children growing....nothing happened and after 28 days she died a miserable and painful death ! subject B a male of 60, diagnosed with cancer .. doctors opined he would survive for a month. All around him prayed...he also prayed that he wish to see his grandson and requested god to grant him some life. He surivived for another eight months saw his grandson and is still playing with him. Now... have Prayers worked in second case, defeating the Karma ? and prayers failed in first case and Karma won ? If Karmas are supreme and will have their toll, why pray ? I invite all sadhakas to give their valueable opinion to further discuss this important issue Love always Aummmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > Can prayers defeat Karma ? > Prayers never work. We mistake prayers to be working but infact our karmas are working. I have never seen somebody's death being postponed due to prayers. I also wonder why do we pray god for wordly things ? which he does not care to listen jaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 , jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote: > > , aumji <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Can prayers defeat Karma ? > > > Prayers never work. We mistake prayers to be working but infact our > karmas are working. > This is a huge statement. I think in the past 4000 years or so of human civilization, our ancestors would have established some cause- effect relationship between prayers and efficacy. They wouldnt have passed on the legacy of prayers etc. if it was utter rubbish. Mistaking karma-effects for prayer after-effects, it is possible, but notprobable, for the reason that karma theory is also not our invention/discovery and the same has been received by us in virasat from the same ancestors. > I have never seen somebody's death being postponed due to prayers. We can be sure about this only if we are certain about the timing of a person's death. Do we have even approximation of the time of a person's death? I also wonder why do we pray god for wordly things ? which he does not care to listen If not to God, then whom else should we pray to? Just as the adamant child continues to cry, even when it is fairly certain not to get its favourite toy now itself. But its pranks and tantrums have sown the seeds of future course to its parents and the next time the parents decide to deny or favour the child, the previous tantrum will play a role in their mind. regards narayan > > jaya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 ha ha if prayer would save anyone from death, no one would have died and the world would be in chaos , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > Can prayers defeat Karma ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 OMNAMONARAYANAYA Aumji , Jayaji and all other co sadhaks -- Pranams . The word cancer is not a synonym of death. Cancer of skin,muscle,bone,brain behave differently Head to foot cancer can affect any part. Each part has more than two types of cancer named differently. Carcinoma of stomach causes slow death and Sarcoma of stomach causes quick death.. Cancer survivors are living to a ripe old age of 80 and more.. And Jayaji , we can not pray for worldly gains. We can not pray for divine gifts either . Why and what for should we pray. Prayer does miracles.Pray and see. ijswamy. ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 OMNAMONARAYANAYA Ha ha ha Kaliyug ji , God incrnates like Kaliyugvishnus enrich sadhak`s thoughts with " PURE " rationalism. and of couse totally free comedy . Mahatma Gandhi said " prayer has saved my life; without it I would have become a lunatic long ago " . Prayer saves all from lunacy not death. ijswamy . ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ ________________________________ kalyugivishnu5 <no_reply > Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:03:43 PM Re: Prayers v/s Karma !! ha ha if prayer would save anyone from death, no one would have died and the world would be in chaos @ s.com, aumji <no_reply@.. .> wrote: > > Can prayers defeat Karma ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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