Mantra Shakti ?

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Friends can you tell me if we chant a mantra without knowing its

meaning, will it still be beneficial ?

 

jaya

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, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

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> Friends can you tell me if we chant a mantra without knowing its

> meaning, will it still be beneficial ?

>

jayaji, I wrote this post some time ago, maybe it will help. If you

still have questions, pls ask:

Mantra Shastra is best explained by Tantra.

 

Each of the God, is actually a conciousness & an energy- a male &

female. But it is the Shakti that actually acts.

 

This Shakti, when seen in the Manomaya lok(Mental Universe made purely

of thoughts) is seen as a geometrical figure called a Yantra. In our

world, the same energy manifests as sound energy.

 

The mantra isnt the name of the God, nor is it random mumbo jumbo- the

Mantra is the God/Godess herself, whose energy has been condensed in

physical universe as sound.

 

While the concentration/Raj yoga theory is also true, the real reason

for mantras is that we call the energy of the Dev/Devi we are

worshipping down to Earth- which can then be used for any purpose,

including selfish ones(from where Tantra gets its bad reputation in

India).

 

By constantly repeating a Mantra, it starts modifying our astral body,

to make it more like the Dev we are worshipping. This means, at death,

we can merge into that Godhead, & get Mukti that way (or we can also

return to Earth to get full Moksha, & merge into the Infinite).

 

All Gods have a mantra- even ones we dont think would(like Jesus has

his own mantra, & if Christians used it, they could more easily get

his darshan than by prayer alone). Not only Devas, but Asura(demons),

Rakshas, Pret Pisacha(type of ghosts) also have their mantra. But you

call them at your own risk!

 

The Maha mantra, the big Daddy of all Mantras, is Om. This is the

Mantra of the Nirgun Brahm, also of Adi Shakti, & Agya Chakra. Om is

constantly repeating in the Universe, & Sadhaks can hear it if they

focus on heart(it might take years of practice though). Om is also one

of only mantras(other being Gayatri)that gives no Siddhi, only Moksha.

 

 

with love

Shantnu

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om namo narayanaya

 

Dear Jaya ji,

 

If you can understand and chant any mantra, it will be good.There is

nothing wrong even if you chant without knowing the meening.The main

thing is you must chant with full belief about the valuce of mantra

sakthi.

 

sarve janaha sukhino bhavanthu

 

subramanian.p.s.(madurai)

 

 

s can you tell me if we chant a mantra without knowing its

> meaning, will it still be beneficial ?

>

> jaya

>

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Dear JayaJi,

 

In my experience, Till today, i never know the meaning of any mantra

till today. First thing is, i kept more faith in god. And then proceed

with saying mantram. But when i keep saying mantram daily, sometimes

that particular word will make a meaning to me. When some words or so

important.I just repeat it 3 times.

 

Automatically when i am in danger, i keep reapeating that particular

words.. I wonder when it happens for the first time. I belive even if we

don't know the meaning. If we ask god, They will teach us. That's how i

learn. I wish this might be helpfull. I might also be wrong in

different angle. If it is so, please let me know.

 

Sarvamaatha.

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Mantras are a part of Shabad Brahm, according to which the mantras are

not just the names of god, but particular form of god solidified to

word.

 

So even if we chant them without knowing the meaning, the particular

god will be evoked. However this process would be very slow...and if

we do it by knowing correct meaning and correct rituals to chant it,

would enhance the speed of progress tremendously.

 

Aummm

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Thaks dear sarvamatha, hari, free spirit, shanracer and aumji for

explaining. What about people saying - if you chant a mantra with

wrong pronunciation, it may even harm us ?

 

What is Sabad Brahma philosophy ?

 

jaya

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, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

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> Thaks dear sarvamatha, hari, free spirit, shanracer and aumji for

> explaining. What about people saying - if you chant a mantra with

> wrong pronunciation, it may even harm us ?

>

 

Jayaji, it depends.

 

If you are doing Manrta for Siddhi, then yes, even small mistake in

pronuciation will destroy you.

 

If doing for Bhakti, it doesnt matter, as the Dev/Deve of the Mantra

will forgive you. They then lay more stress to your devotion while

doing mantra, rather than outer ritualistic correctness.

 

with love,

Shantnu

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yes shntanu is right. When Mantra is done for a siddhi the correct

pronunciation and proper rituals are must, otherwise mantra may not

give siddhi or may harm

 

But if mantra is done for pure devotion, for moksha or to please god

asking nothing in return, Mantras affect even without knowing the

meaning. Remember dacoit Ratnakar became sage Valmiki by chanting

Mara-Mara mara instead of Rama Rama Rama.

 

Shabd Brahm philosophy is from Tantra and it says God is sound and the

sound solidifies as matter. All mantra shastra is based upon this

philosophy. When i get time i will write on this in details.

 

love

 

Aumm

 

 

PS aren't we missing sudhakar, Farah and Jigyasu ?

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

I think the reply is over-simplifying the matter.

 

The mantras have to be chanted/recited with correct pronounciation (uchhar),

swaram (rhyme), matra (duration/length of the alphabet) and balam (emphasis on

letters) invariably, if it is a vedic mantra or tantric mantra. The reason

being, mantras are shabda brahm as per tantric philosophy as stated by you and

Gods reside in riks as per vedic philosophy.

 

It does not matter whether the mantra prayoga is kamya or nishkamya. While

invoking Gods through vedic/tantrik method, both Bhava and ritual are important

and one cannot let go of either element.

 

The usual instances quoted for leniency or excuse for deficiency in recitation

are (i) I am praying to my Mother; and a mother wouldnt mind the child making

mistakes in her calling (ii) Valmiki could invoke through " Rama " nama kirtan

etc.

 

The reply would be nama-sankirtan is also one of the eligible methods of worship

and one would be better off doing nama-sankirtan instead of incorrectly reciting

mantras. The mother would be mightily be pleased with the child's mistakes only

upto a certain age of the child (say 8-9 years max) and if the child continues

to supplicate the mother in fancy names, the mother will show the proper place

to the child (although her love to the child will not diminish).

 

That is why so many stutis, stotras etc. have been compiled by so many saints

and other religious leaders so that the less adept in mantra shastra pay their

respects to God through stutis/stotras, without violating the mantra shastra

code.

 

with regards

 

narayan

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/18/08, aumji <no_reply > wrote:

 

 

yes shntanu is right. When Mantra is done for a siddhi the correct

pronunciation and proper rituals are must, otherwise mantra may not

give siddhi or may harm