Visions in Sadhna

July 17, 2008

Before anything is said on visions we must carefully note that ;

1- No two persons in the world have same visions, even if they are

doing same sadhna

2- Total absence of visions does not prove our sadhna to be futile

3- We are ourselves the best judge to interpret our visions…others

may just give an idea.

4- There is no harm in discussing vision for analytical purpose with

like minded sadhakas. If revealed to boast yr sadhna, the visions

stop immediately.

Like dream stage is a proof of our sleep, visions are proof of our

sadhna. Two type of persons do not approve visions. One - those who

have attained Nirvikalpa samadhi and are away from the clutches of

Maya. Two - those who have satisfied themselves after their

intellect assured them that they know the truth, but have not done

any practical sadhna . All other sadhkas be it Bhakta, be it Gyani

be it Hathh or Raj yogi, Kriya Yoga or Tantra or anything will

certainly get some visions when their sadhna is well established.

Before we go deeper into the reasons as to why we have visions I

would like to illustrate a few examples taken from authenticated

persons (some of them are in our group). It wil give us an insight

into what we are discussing :-

1- Sadhak " Yogananand " (Autobiography of a yogi) …When my guru

touched my chest, I felt as if breath has been drawn out of my body

and suddenly I started seeing the things in Vibration. I could even

see what is going on behind the wall. then everything changed into

light and there was light all around "

2- sadhaka " A " Male age 40 yrs doing Shiva Japa for 2 years - ' …

then after getting into nothingness for a while, I awoke during my

mediation…and saw myself standing before a cobweb made of strange

material which was self-illuminating….I saw a snake like thing

moving in the centre of the cob-web…then I got frightened and woke

up from my sadhna . ( had Seen Muladhara chakra, with kundilini in

it)

3-Sadhka " B " aged 60 yrs male…doing " Khwaja Khijra " mantra (urdu

word for Neptune) for 40 days -Then I heard noise and suddenly saw

dozen of serpents falling down from ceiling near me, they were

crawly and hissing in a fierce way. I left my Japa and ran away (The

sadhka later got high fever and was revived by his Muslim Ustaad

(guru)

4 - sadhaka " c " aged 39 years male doing OM sadhna - I suddenly saw

my self made of vibrations and started growing in height. My feet

were firmly on the ground but my head was going up like a light ray,

I could see my city, then my country, then earth, solar system, and

galaxies, running behind my gaze as seen from a running train. Then

I reached the end of the universe….and broke opened the shell..and I

found my head coming out of one atom's centre .

5- Sadhaka " d " female aged 42 years - doing Bhakti sadhna ---- At

times I see clear blue sky by my closed eyes….with stars twinkling

as if smiling at me. then I am lost in the great ocean of love of

Krishna "

6- sadhaka " e " male aged 20 years doing TM - I lost into nothingness

and suddenly regained my consciousness and saw myself wearing rags

and in shabby condition . I was shocked to see myself in such a poor

state I cried and woke up…I was panting. (This sadhaka later

suffered great difficulties, owing to financial failures of his

father).

7- Sadhaka " f " female aged 36 years….karma yogi - I was having an

afternoon nap when I saw a dream…it was vivid…I saw myself in a car

driven by brother-in-law and as the car advanced, it lost its wheels

then the body, then the machine…and finally brother was holding the

steering but we were still advancing as if in a car ( The week after…

her brother in law's car was stolen…and when retrieved by police

later…was found to be without wheels, accessories and many parts

missing)

These are a few examples to show how correct the visions proved

irrespective of the age and path the sadhaka was following. The

visions can be divided into four major categories :-

1- Visions coming from purification of Chitta…These visions are

mostly seen in the beginning days of sadhna. A Sadhaka normally sees

himself with giants, serpents, evil spirits…or sees himself in very

shabby and poor condition . Often one is afraid and the

concentration breaks…..but these should be seen bravely as when

these type of visions are seen, it indicates some very bad karma or

our own evil desires are dying … These type of visions denote

progress in Sadhna.

2- visions showing future - These visions are like his Kripa to tell

us forehand that we should be ready for some bad times. Though some

people, without any sadhna also see visions about future, but these

are more common with sadhkas. One should not feel distressed to see

the future, as God wishes to warn us and to be ready for this.

3- Visions guiding in sadhna - Once we have made little advancement

on the path of sadhna, our burden of Yoga is taken over by HIM (As

shri Krishna has beautifully explained in Gita). These type of

visions are seen by those sadhaka who do not have a guru, or their

guru is not available to help him. These visions give clear guidance

on sadhna. I myself had this great vision when I was experimenting

with Om sadhna and was chanting OM in a wrong way. I saw Swami

Parmananda taking OM classes and rebuking a child for not chanting

OM in a proper way. I got the msg and changed my way of chanting…and

the speed of progress was doubled.

4- Visions showing the mysteries of the Universe - These type of

visions are seen by advanced sadhka (or by a novice if God so

wishes). In this one may see sky, stars, kundilini or his body

functions, or may see different energies working in the universe.

The vision had by Great Yogananda falls under this category. So by

careful analysis of the vision, we may categorise it and find out

whether it indicates Chittashudhhi, warning, guiding or showing

great mystery and use its results in our sadhna.

STRANGE LIGHTS : Seeing strange lights by closed eyes is a very

common phenomenon. these are seen even by new sadhkas. There are

different explanations for seeing the lights, but we will not go

intodry intellecualism. These lights may be seen as a dot against

the black back ground as seen by closed eyes.or we may see a

fog/mist of colors, or the light may be seen as a thunderbolt. How

we see the lights is not important. The importance of light lies in

its color. We should carefully note the color of the light seen

which may give us an insight into its significance. I am giving

below some examples gathered from new and advanced sadhkas :-

(The colors may be common colors, but they tend to change in such

wavelengths as are never seen in practical. Seeing a color in

strange wavelengths denotes higher stage of concentration)

1- A less black dot seen in the darker background :- It denotes the

sadhna is on right path. The dot represents wavering but settleing

Manas as seen by the Agya Chakra.

2- A bright dot (color milky white) : denotes progress in sadhna. If

possible we should concentrate on this dot, though in the beginning

it sparks and fades in seconds, but becomes stable with progress in

concentration.

3- self-illuminating cob-webs or strange shapes : These may denote

visualising one of our chakra, or a complex system of our Nadis.

Instead of wasting our time as to what it is, we should continue

with our sadhna and He will reveal slowly what He wishes to show.

4- Color Pink : denotes higher stage of purified chitta

5- Color Green : denotes peace attained by Manas

6- color Yellow or golden : denotes Ishwar Kripa coming to us

7- Color Orange : denotes lust and Kama under control

8- Color Violet : denotes higher stage of sadhna. It signifies

activation of Agya Chakra.

9- Color Blue : denotes feeling of Vairagya becoming stronger.

These were some common colors seen by sadhakas. If You see some

other color, try to find its nearer color and deduce your result.

The following symptom, if felt during meditation , prove the

advancement of sadhna :-

1- Sudden jerk in limbs - this happens due to Prana suddenly rushing

away from the limb to the sushumna. this sign denotes higher stage

of concentration and advancement in sadhna

2- Cool air felt on eyelids / forehead :- another very good sign of

progress. This normally happens in deep concentration. One feels as

if super cooled air is being blown gently over one's eyelids,

forhead, throat, nose or any other part. This happens due to inflow

of prana from the supreme power (Mother Nature/Durga). After some

more practice, one may feel this cool air any time even while not

meditating.

3- Throbbing - sometimes sadhka feels throbbing in the end of spinal

region, or on genitals, or on the forehead. This sensation denotes

activation of concerned chakra.

4- Tingling in the spinal column :- One may feel tingling in the

spinal column, or upper tips of genitals , or on lips. This happens

due to Prana opening the fine nadis and is a good sign, but one

should be careful during this sensation as Sexual desires may flare

up suddenly. One has to control his sex-needs during this sensation,

then it becomes very helpful in sadhna.

5- Sudden jerks in the body :- some sadhka may feel sudden jerks

during mediation. This is most commonin sadhkas doing TM, RajYoga,

or Vipasana. These jerks are sometimes so violent that they break

the concentration. These jerks happen due to Prana suddenly flowing

into Sushumna Nadi. It is a very good sign and should be taken as a

progress on the path. If they disturb the concentration, one should

not lose heart because by the passage of time, and advancement of

sadhna this break in concentration will stop.

6- Feeling of lightness/floating : Many sadhkas feel that their body

has become light like feather or some may feel they are in the air

in an unbalanced position, or some just feel blown in the air. This

sensation is felt when the astral body detaches itself from the

physical body, and starts floating in the air. This is a very good

sign, provided one does not get disturbed out of fear or any such

thing. If one continues he may start having the astral visions after

this sensation.

7- Listening strange sounds :- Though listening astral sounds is a

part of Anahat Naad Sadhna, but any sadhka can listen the astral

sounds. Some sadhka listen the sound of a flute, or sound of conch,

or sound of rain, or sound of thunderbolt, or sound of river

flowing. All these sounds are normally heard in the upper region of

brain. This sensation is felt due to activation of astral ears.

These sounds are in fact the sounds of the astral world. One may

continue with his sadhna without giving much importance to these

sound. If we concentrate on these sounds, our path will change and

we will start Naad Anusandhan which is another powerful path for

salvation. The last sound heard in this case will be of OM.

Unlike dreams, Visions are gifts of the Universal system, to help us

in our sadhna.

But we must remembers that these visions are just indicators and we

should not induldge in them..otherwise our progress would stop.

Like we are going in a car and see the scenaries around but dont

stop there.... similarly, see the visions analyse them for possible

results and go on.... the path is long and visions are just mile

stones

Hari Aum

July 17, 2008

Dear Aumji,

Thanks a lot Aumji for having taken such trouble in telling us once

again in detail the signs of progress in sadhana.

with best wishes and in gratitude,

M.S.Thimmappa.

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> Before anything is said on visions we must carefully note that ;

>

> 1- No two persons in the world have same visions, even if they are

> doing same sadhna

July 17, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> Before anything is said on visions we must carefully note that ;

>

> 1- No two persons in the world have same visions, even if they are

> doing same sadhna

>

Thankyou Aumji.

I really wanted such practical hints. sometimes i feel i drown into

nothing or just vanish from myself. Is it a progress sign or any

mental problem

jaya

July 17, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

Dear Aumji,

Wow, that is some posting on visions, progress etc., etc.,

Thanks a lot for them. Meantime i still liked the message

you posted and which i have copied and keep it by my comp.

Many a times i do get emotional and get carried away and this

helps.

THE ONLY PAIN IN THIS WORLD IS THE PAIN OF SEPARATION FROM GOD,

ALL OTHER PAINS ARE GRIM REFLECTION OF THE SAME.

With warm wishes,

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

> Before anything is said on visions we must carefully note that ;

>

> 1- No two persons in the world have same visions, even if they are

> doing same sadhna

>

> 2- Total absence of visions does not prove our sadhna to be futile

>

> 3- We are ourselves the best judge to interpret our visions…others

> may just give an idea.

>

> 4- There is no harm in discussing vision for analytical purpose

with

> like minded sadhakas. If revealed to boast yr sadhna, the visions

> stop immediately.

>

> Like dream stage is a proof of our sleep, visions are proof of our

> sadhna. Two type of persons do not approve visions. One - those who

> have attained Nirvikalpa samadhi and are away from the clutches of

> Maya. Two - those who have satisfied themselves after their

> intellect assured them that they know the truth, but have not done

> any practical sadhna . All other sadhkas be it Bhakta, be it Gyani

> be it Hathh or Raj yogi, Kriya Yoga or Tantra or anything will

> certainly get some visions when their sadhna is well established.

> Before we go deeper into the reasons as to why we have visions I

> would like to illustrate a few examples taken from authenticated

> persons (some of them are in our group). It wil give us an insight

> into what we are discussing :-

>

> 1- Sadhak " Yogananand " (Autobiography of a yogi) …When my guru

> touched my chest, I felt as if breath has been drawn out of my body

> and suddenly I started seeing the things in Vibration. I could even

> see what is going on behind the wall. then everything changed into

> light and there was light all around "

>

> 2- sadhaka " A " Male age 40 yrs doing Shiva Japa for 2 years - ' …

> then after getting into nothingness for a while, I awoke during my

> mediation…and saw myself standing before a cobweb made of strange

> material which was self-illuminating….I saw a snake like thing

> moving in the centre of the cob-web…then I got frightened and woke

> up from my sadhna . ( had Seen Muladhara chakra, with kundilini in

> it)

>

> 3-Sadhka " B " aged 60 yrs male…doing " Khwaja Khijra " mantra (urdu

> word for Neptune) for 40 days -Then I heard noise and suddenly saw

> dozen of serpents falling down from ceiling near me, they were

> crawly and hissing in a fierce way. I left my Japa and ran away

(The

> sadhka later got high fever and was revived by his Muslim Ustaad

> (guru)

>

> 4 - sadhaka " c " aged 39 years male doing OM sadhna - I suddenly saw

> my self made of vibrations and started growing in height. My feet

> were firmly on the ground but my head was going up like a light

ray,

> I could see my city, then my country, then earth, solar system, and

> galaxies, running behind my gaze as seen from a running train. Then

> I reached the end of the universe….and broke opened the shell..and

I

> found my head coming out of one atom's centre .

>

> 5- Sadhaka " d " female aged 42 years - doing Bhakti sadhna ---- At

> times I see clear blue sky by my closed eyes….with stars twinkling

> as if smiling at me. then I am lost in the great ocean of love of

> Krishna "

>

> 6- sadhaka " e " male aged 20 years doing TM - I lost into

nothingness

> and suddenly regained my consciousness and saw myself wearing rags

> and in shabby condition . I was shocked to see myself in such a

poor

> state I cried and woke up…I was panting. (This sadhaka later

> suffered great difficulties, owing to financial failures of his

> father).

>

> 7- Sadhaka " f " female aged 36 years….karma yogi - I was having an

> afternoon nap when I saw a dream…it was vivid…I saw myself in a car

> driven by brother-in-law and as the car advanced, it lost its

wheels

> then the body, then the machine…and finally brother was holding the

> steering but we were still advancing as if in a car ( The week

after…

> her brother in law's car was stolen…and when retrieved by police

> later…was found to be without wheels, accessories and many parts

> missing)

>

> These are a few examples to show how correct the visions proved

> irrespective of the age and path the sadhaka was following. The

> visions can be divided into four major categories :-

>

> 1- Visions coming from purification of Chitta…These visions are

> mostly seen in the beginning days of sadhna. A Sadhaka normally

sees

> himself with giants, serpents, evil spirits…or sees himself in very

> shabby and poor condition . Often one is afraid and the

> concentration breaks…..but these should be seen bravely as when

> these type of visions are seen, it indicates some very bad karma or

> our own evil desires are dying … These type of visions denote

> progress in Sadhna.

>

> 2- visions showing future - These visions are like his Kripa to

tell

> us forehand that we should be ready for some bad times. Though some

> people, without any sadhna also see visions about future, but these

> are more common with sadhkas. One should not feel distressed to see

> the future, as God wishes to warn us and to be ready for this.

>

> 3- Visions guiding in sadhna - Once we have made little advancement

> on the path of sadhna, our burden of Yoga is taken over by HIM (As

> shri Krishna has beautifully explained in Gita). These type of

> visions are seen by those sadhaka who do not have a guru, or their

> guru is not available to help him. These visions give clear

guidance

> on sadhna. I myself had this great vision when I was experimenting

> with Om sadhna and was chanting OM in a wrong way. I saw Swami

> Parmananda taking OM classes and rebuking a child for not chanting

> OM in a proper way. I got the msg and changed my way of chanting…

and

> the speed of progress was doubled.

>

> 4- Visions showing the mysteries of the Universe - These type of

> visions are seen by advanced sadhka (or by a novice if God so

> wishes). In this one may see sky, stars, kundilini or his body

> functions, or may see different energies working in the universe.

> The vision had by Great Yogananda falls under this category. So by

> careful analysis of the vision, we may categorise it and find out

> whether it indicates Chittashudhhi, warning, guiding or showing

> great mystery and use its results in our sadhna.

>

> STRANGE LIGHTS : Seeing strange lights by closed eyes is a very

> common phenomenon. these are seen even by new sadhkas. There are

> different explanations for seeing the lights, but we will not go

> intodry intellecualism. These lights may be seen as a dot against

> the black back ground as seen by closed eyes.or we may see a

> fog/mist of colors, or the light may be seen as a thunderbolt. How

> we see the lights is not important. The importance of light lies in

> its color. We should carefully note the color of the light seen

> which may give us an insight into its significance. I am giving

> below some examples gathered from new and advanced sadhkas :-

>

> (The colors may be common colors, but they tend to change in such

> wavelengths as are never seen in practical. Seeing a color in

> strange wavelengths denotes higher stage of concentration)

>

> 1- A less black dot seen in the darker background :- It denotes the

> sadhna is on right path. The dot represents wavering but settleing

> Manas as seen by the Agya Chakra.

>

> 2- A bright dot (color milky white) : denotes progress in sadhna.

If

> possible we should concentrate on this dot, though in the beginning

> it sparks and fades in seconds, but becomes stable with progress in

> concentration.

>

> 3- self-illuminating cob-webs or strange shapes : These may denote

> visualising one of our chakra, or a complex system of our Nadis.

> Instead of wasting our time as to what it is, we should continue

> with our sadhna and He will reveal slowly what He wishes to show.

>

> 4- Color Pink : denotes higher stage of purified chitta

>

> 5- Color Green : denotes peace attained by Manas

>

> 6- color Yellow or golden : denotes Ishwar Kripa coming to us

>

> 7- Color Orange : denotes lust and Kama under control

>

> 8- Color Violet : denotes higher stage of sadhna. It signifies

> activation of Agya Chakra.

>

> 9- Color Blue : denotes feeling of Vairagya becoming stronger.

>

> These were some common colors seen by sadhakas. If You see some

> other color, try to find its nearer color and deduce your result.

>

> The following symptom, if felt during meditation , prove the

> advancement of sadhna :-

>

> 1- Sudden jerk in limbs - this happens due to Prana suddenly

rushing

> away from the limb to the sushumna. this sign denotes higher stage

> of concentration and advancement in sadhna

>

> 2- Cool air felt on eyelids / forehead :- another very good sign of

> progress. This normally happens in deep concentration. One feels as

> if super cooled air is being blown gently over one's eyelids,

> forhead, throat, nose or any other part. This happens due to inflow

> of prana from the supreme power (Mother Nature/Durga). After some

> more practice, one may feel this cool air any time even while not

> meditating.

>

> 3- Throbbing - sometimes sadhka feels throbbing in the end of

spinal

> region, or on genitals, or on the forehead. This sensation denotes

> activation of concerned chakra.

>

> 4- Tingling in the spinal column :- One may feel tingling in the

> spinal column, or upper tips of genitals , or on lips. This happens

> due to Prana opening the fine nadis and is a good sign, but one

> should be careful during this sensation as Sexual desires may flare

> up suddenly. One has to control his sex-needs during this

sensation,

> then it becomes very helpful in sadhna.

>

> 5- Sudden jerks in the body :- some sadhka may feel sudden jerks

> during mediation. This is most commonin sadhkas doing TM, RajYoga,

> or Vipasana. These jerks are sometimes so violent that they break

> the concentration. These jerks happen due to Prana suddenly flowing

> into Sushumna Nadi. It is a very good sign and should be taken as a

> progress on the path. If they disturb the concentration, one should

> not lose heart because by the passage of time, and advancement of

> sadhna this break in concentration will stop.

>

> 6- Feeling of lightness/floating : Many sadhkas feel that their

body

> has become light like feather or some may feel they are in the air

> in an unbalanced position, or some just feel blown in the air. This

> sensation is felt when the astral body detaches itself from the

> physical body, and starts floating in the air. This is a very good

> sign, provided one does not get disturbed out of fear or any such

> thing. If one continues he may start having the astral visions

after

> this sensation.

>

> 7- Listening strange sounds :- Though listening astral sounds is a

> part of Anahat Naad Sadhna, but any sadhka can listen the astral

> sounds. Some sadhka listen the sound of a flute, or sound of conch,

> or sound of rain, or sound of thunderbolt, or sound of river

> flowing. All these sounds are normally heard in the upper region of

> brain. This sensation is felt due to activation of astral ears.

> These sounds are in fact the sounds of the astral world. One may

> continue with his sadhna without giving much importance to these

> sound. If we concentrate on these sounds, our path will change and

> we will start Naad Anusandhan which is another powerful path for

> salvation. The last sound heard in this case will be of OM.

>

> Unlike dreams, Visions are gifts of the Universal system, to help

us

> in our sadhna.

>

> But we must remembers that these visions are just indicators and we

> should not induldge in them..otherwise our progress would stop.

> Like we are going in a car and see the scenaries around but dont

> stop there.... similarly, see the visions analyse them for possible

> results and go on.... the path is long and visions are just mile

> stones

> Hari Aum

>

July 17, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> 1- No two persons in the world have same visions

Dear Aum

Remember when I told you about the visions I had during meditation &

you said you had exactly the same? The green grass, the detail on each

blade of grass, the trees, the detail on each leaf, the wind blowing

through the grass & the trees? Surely there must be some similarities

between what one sadhaka sees & that of another?

With love

Farah

July 18, 2008

, " janfarah_strongspirit "

<janfarah_strongspirit wrote:

>

> , aumji <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > 1- No two persons in the world have same visions

>

> Dear Aum

>

> Remember when I told you about the visions I had during meditation &

>

Dear Faraha, this is true that in general view we may have similar

visiions, but there is always some difference depending upon the

psyche and past karma.

There is another explanation... when one enters an astral world and

another person with almost same frequency of mind , at the same

time..then they both will see the same astral world through vision.

Aum

July 18, 2008

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

sometimes i feel i drown into

> nothing or just vanish from myself. Is it a progress sign or any

> mental problem

If you are doing a regular sadhna then this is certainly not a mental

problem.

Drowing into nothingness is a good sign and it denotes that mind is

becoming thoughtless and ego less. This feeling mainly comes to those

doing Vipasana or Pranayama or Raja Yoga. The time of this

nohtingness increases slowly and finally leads to lower Sampragyat

samadhi

love

Aum

July 18, 2008

, aumji <no_reply wrote:

>

> Drowing into nothingness is a good sign and it denotes that mind

is

> becoming thoughtless and ego less. This feeling mainly comes to

those

> doing Vipasana or Pranayama or Raja Yoga. The time of this

> nohtingness increases slowly and finally leads to lower Sampragyat

> samadhi

>

> love

>

> Aum

>

You are soooo right. I do vipasana and pranayama both. How far is

samadhi from this point ?

Jaya

July 20, 2008

, beirut_ka_baba <no_reply wrote:

>

> Visions are very common during beginning days of Sadhna. Absence

of

> visions do not imply that sadhna is not correct. But their

presence

> certify that we are progressing.

>

Dear Aum,

I am getting a vision of a water flow and a lotus flower on the top

of my head and can be felt too. But this vision is not only when i

am meditating or closing my eyes to pray god. It can be seen even

with the eyes open and think of god. I could understand it is good

sign and following right way. Is there any different meaning when

water and lotus be together?

And i could see a snake which is transperent like water , mostly i

have seen in my house, shop and whereever i go. But this time, i was

shock to see that in the sky while i was travelling to washington

DC. All these started it while i started to meditate with Lord

shivas name. But i didn't meditate regularly or pray regularly.

Whenever i think of god. I could admire shiva and shakthi and all

gods, love towards us and all living things. Still there are so many

things which i could not understand some of the topics which you

write here.

Sarvamaatha.

July 20, 2008