Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 No Amarnath, No Haj 01/07/2008 06:40:11  VHP Warning all India about the vicious plan of the J & K Govt hand in hand with the Union Govt, VHP International President Ashok Singhal and General Secretary Dr Pravin Togadia said,†To revoke Amarnath Land is only the tip of the iceberg. The real game-plan is to declare all Hindu pilgrimage places in India as either Jungle, mountain, sea or river places & STOP HINDU PILGRIMAGE ALL OVER INDIA.†  Drawing comparison, Dr Togadia pointed out, â€They are doing same with the Rameshwaram Ramsetu, did same when Archaeology department prevented Hindus from worshipping ancient Navagrahas in Konark Sun temple & there are many more such experiences. Once they get away with Amarnath Land revocation, then they will even claim that Sabarimala in Kerala, Swamimalai in TN, Vindhyavasini in U.P., Tirupati Balaji on Tirumala, Ashtavinayaks in Maharashtra , Jtyotirlingams are in jungles, on mountains, near sea, near river…so these lands revoked.  This is a serious anti-Hindu game-plan. They did the same in Malaysia , Jordan , Indonesia etc. Hindus need to wake up against this Jehad before it is too late otherwise these anti-Hindu forces will not leave any Hindu place of worshipâ€.  VHP demanded:  1.    At no cost Amarnath Yaatra will ever be allowed to be stopped or pilgrims affected.  2.    We will NOT STOP until the Amarnath Land is given back to Amarnath Shrines Board. BHAGVAN SHIV AMARNATH CAME FIRST IN THAT JUNGLE WHEN THERE WERE NO BRITISH LAWS ABOUT JUNGLES & OBVIOUSLY NO RELIGIONS THAT STARTED JUST 1500 OR 2000 YEARS BACK. SO THE LAND BELONGS TO AMARNATH.  3.    All Hajj Houses must be taken back & converted into charity hospitals for the poor.  4.    Haj Subsidy must be cancelled. No flights for Haj to be sent wasting precious fuel which costs have been increased by none other that these Jehadis to hurt economies of the non-Muslim countries.  5.    No Namaz be allowed in India or on Indian streets. 4 speakers 5 times a day pollute much more.   6.    Article 370 must be immediately scrapped. All Indians have a fundamental right to travel & buy land anywhere in India including Jammu & Kashmir.  7.    Give Kashmir in the hands of the Army & hang all Jehadis who flashed Pakistan flags & shouted “We are Pakistani†slogans and anti-Amarnath slogans. This is sedition & treason.  Making these clear demands, VHP announced the phase-wise Agitation against revocation of Amarnath Land :  1.    ALL INDIA VEHICLE RALLIES IN ALL MAJOR TOWN & CITIES OF INDIA : 2nd JULY, 2008           2. BHARAT BAND         3rd JULY, 2008  3.    BOYCOTT ON ALL KASHMIRI PRODUCTS & GOODS ALL INDIA IMMEDIATELY  (Kashmiri Handicrafts such as carpets, kurtas, scarf, shawls; Kashmiri Apples, Kashmiri Saffron [Kesar], Kashmiri Apricots [Akhrot] etc.) Amarnath & Vaishnodevi pilgrims are being advise to buy & use walking sticks, ponies, prasad, chunaris & other items from Hindus.)  Dr Togadia further said, “UPA President said 3 years back that their principles are as same as Jamait-e-Ulema. One Congress CM has just inaugurated Islamic Index. They are snatching Hindu & Bouddha Gods & Goddesses’ lands to be handed over to Muslims & Christians who came to India much later than the Hindu temples.  SO, HINDUS NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO PROTECT THEIR TEMPLES & TEMPLE LAND ALL OVER  INDIA .†http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=6661 & SKIN=B Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite group at http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 , HinduShakti <hindushakti2000 wrote: > > Alas ! Hindus are denied basic needs in their own country !! Billions of rupees are being spent by our government on Haj and a few acres of land for Amarnath Yatra was so much opposed by Muslims that our pseudo secular government cancelled it. Millions of dollors were spent for Palestine refugees and nothing was done for Kashmir Pundits who are living like refugees in their own homeland. But Hindus too are responsible for this...Disunity in the name of language, state, caste etc and egoism among various sects is perhaps the sin for which nature is punishing us. The answer does not lie in killing the muslims or christians, but seeing inside us for our own faults first love Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 No problem. Actually it is not at all a problem with a simple action by all of us. If you refer to the articles below, in comparision to Islam and Hinduism, Islam is much better. The next article says that Mathsypuranam is nothing but bible. The next one proves that what Hinduism preaches is nothing but bad. In the same blog you would find one more thing doing so. But this would be sufficient. And finally the action is to simply convert to either of the religions. Might is right. So it seems Islam is the best destination. What does the government do with all the old buildings. Destroy and and use up for something. Let us do the same. Either the Hindu temples or the Hinduism is old so obviously fermented. So why not adopt the modern and better ones?? Is Islam specially cruel to Humans & Animals ? I S  I S L A M   S P E C I A L L Y   C R U E L    T O    H U M A N S   A N D   A N I M A L S  ? Well we Hindus heard it for the umpteenth time. Islam trains the followers to be cruel and merciless. This is in contrast to Hinduism which preaches only kindness.  1.      Muslims circumcise 8 day young helpless male child. Even Muslim girls are circumcised. In most Indian villages Hindu children of 8 to 30days are anointed with very hot oil on the abdomen and branded with red hot needles. Scientific educated urban Hindus are no longer doing it. So are scientific Indian Muslims who circumcise children under general/local anesthesia.  2.      Muslims make ritual sacrifice of animals on ID, and during Ramdan. They invoke Allah`s name. On every Dussehra all non Brahmin Hindus make a ritual sacrifice of buffalos, sheep and chickens not for Goddess Durga alone but to their mopeds, bikes, cars and lorries. Cock fights with betting are very common. The fighting cocks are bound to knives so that maximum blood is shed. Hindu kings waged wars after defeat in cock fights just to keep their ego.  3.      When Muslims sacrifice animals for food they slit the throat of the animal and allow the animal to bleed to death - a cruel practice. Hindus just behead animals in one stroke- a kind way. When an animal`s throat is slit the main Carotid artery is cut and blood supply to the brain is immediately stopped making the animal brain dead and insensitive to pain.  4.      Muslims marry their daughters at a young age. Ad so do Hindus also for the same reason - poverty and illiteracy.  5.      Polygamy is institutionalized among Muslims, thus wronging women.. Mostly Islamic women married to a single man live as sisters and share motherhood to all children. Hinduism does not recognize polygamy . But men marry one woman and " keep " a few other women illegally .Such illegally " kept " women have no social/legal/economic or any other protection..  6.      Divorcing Muslim women is very easy and this is unfair to women. Islam permits a divorced woman to marry again. This gives the Muslim woman a chance to change a husband who does not like her. Hindu divorce is difficult and a divorced Hindu woman carries a stigma. So many Hindu women are forced to stay silent in a hell like marriage.  7.      Islamic jurisprudence is very cruel. Eye for an eye, hand for hand, death for murder. The decree is quick and certain. Concession is available if the victim or the near of kin pardon the criminal and settles the matter with cash or material concession. Islam does not say that you are suffering from a difficulty because of your actions and inactions of previous births. It simply says - crime -- punishment/pardon/settlement = peace=Islam Hindu (Indian) jurisprudence gives " free trial " that can last for decades, dozens of appeals and get time lapsed due to the death of the criminal, accuser or even the lawyer. The victim or the kin get nothing legally. So almost all cased are settled illegally out of court. Or Hindu victim of a crime is paying for his crime of earlier birth. This means the sufferer does not know for what crime/sin, he is suffering and how to prevent further suffering  8.      Muslims get terrorist training from abroad and destroy property and kill innocents. Sure some do. Hindus learn ideology from communist countries. They become Naxalites. Naxalites kill the rich because they are " class enemies " , kill the poor because they are " informers " and kill the police to loot arms. MATHSYA PURANAM TRANSLITRATED INTO  THE HOLY BIBLE ? WELL ALMOST MATHSYAPURAANAM The Matsya Avatar or the Fish Incarnation is the very first of the ten incarnations of Lord Vishnu. The contents prove that at one time the planet was threatened with a great flood and a savior in a boat preserved all life forms. Also it establishes the concept of Manus the cosmic rulers and their periods of rule called Manvantharas to divide Time and Yugas to SYNCHRONISE WITH EARTHLY TIME CALCULATION WITH DIVINE TIME CALCULATION. Manu and his wife became the First Parents (like Adam nd Eve were the first parents according to Christianity and Qoran). In the Fish Incarnation Lord Vishnu rescued Vedas (Purity and Divinity) from the evil grip of Hayagriv hiding in ocean, to hand them over to Lord Brahma. True devotee Sathyavrath was chosen as the first Manu. The Lord told his devotee, " Just a week from now, the ocean will rise and inundate the entire Universe. At that time you will see a spacious boat approaching you. Collect all the seeds, plants and animals required for the next spell of creation and get into the boat and wait for me. " A great deluge destroyed the entire universe. A boat  approached Satyavrath to rescue Sathyavrath`s family and one sample pair of each and every animal and plant to perpetuate HIS creation.  HOLY BIBLE -- OLD TESTAMENT – GANESIS -- CHAPTER 6 TO CHAPTER 9                       Adam and Eve multiplied by generations to fill the earth, as commanded by Jehova(GOD). Most humans turned away from God. But Divine men married human females to create Sages. But the ungodly overwhelmed the earth keeping Sages as minority.So GOD wanted to destroy HIS own creation. But HE wanted to save Sages and NOAH and his family as NOAH was Godly. Jehova ordered Noah to make a big ark and cover it after filling it with his family , the Sages and one male and female member of each animal, bird, and plant. Noah and others entered the Ark and covered it. After seven days A HUGE DELUGE INUNDATED THE ENTIRE EARTH AND ALL WERE DESTROYED. This flood receded keeping only Noah and others in the Ark alive. The next generation started. MATRIARCHY AND FEMINISM IN MAHABHARAT Sage Parashar joined Sathyavathi (Mathsyagandhi) to give him a son VEDAVYAS Sathyavati (Mathsyaganddhi/Yojanagandhi) later married Shantanu on one condition. His son Devavratha later to becalled Bhishma the legal heir to throne should be deprived of the throne. Shantanu was reluctatbut he was so deeply in love with Mathsyagandhi that Devavrat volunteered to disown the throne. To avoid later complications Devavrat preferred to stay celibate lifelong. Devavrat thus became BHISHM. Shantan had two sons through Mathsyagandhi, Chitrangad ( the man with a peculiar phallus/impotent) and Vichitraveerya(the man whose semen was ineffective). Having these congenital and vital abnormalities they died young leaving their three wives Amba, Ambika and Ambalika widowed. Vedavyas on orders from his mother joined Ambika, Ambalika and the maid to provided heirs Dhrutharashr and Panduraj. Born to the maid Vidur could not claim inheritance to throne but he was wise. Dhrithrashtr married Gandhari and had 100 sons and one daughter. Paanduraj married Kunti. Kunti gave birth to Karn before marriage. After marriage she gave birth to Yudhishtir (Dharmaraj) through Yamdharmraj, Bhim through Vayu and Arjun through Indra. The other consort of Pandu gave birth to Nakul and Sahadev. Arjun solved the MATHSYA YANTHR but all the five Pandavs married Droupadi. In a game of dice, Yudhishtir conceded defeat of Droupadi to Duryodhan in full view of Royal court. Droupadi was physically insulted by Dusshasan in full royal court. And again in open court Droupadi promised not to tie her hair into a knot except after blood coming from Dussashan’s thigh is applied to her hair. My points are Mathsyagandhi, Ambika, Ambalika Gandhari, Kunti and Draupadi are the key decision makers leaving no chance to males. Only Bhism was the heir to throne but gave up to please Sathyavathi’s wish. Between Kauravs and Pandavas only Kauravs are more eligible for kingdom as Pandu had no children of his own. But to give kingdom to Pandavs a DHRAMA YUDH was needed . After this Darma Yudh, Draupadi dressed her hair. Arjun did not want to fight the war but Lord Krishna motivated him.. After the war none ruled the kingdom. Thus it appears to me that the entire war was to dress Draupad’s hair.  Mahabharat says 1) WOMEN dictate and MEN act accordingly and 2) Inheritance is decided by women keeping men just for name sake  Sriharsha. S |.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.| I have often regretted my speech........ Never my silence.... @ s.com, HinduShakti <hindushakti2000@ ...> wrote: > > Alas ! Hindus are denied basic needs in their own country !! 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 ALL PLEASE REPLY IF OUR RELIGIONS IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH, THEN WHY GOD ALLOWS SUCH INSULTING INCIDENTS TO HAPPEN ? WHY GOD SEEMS TO BE WITH THE FALSE RELIGIONS ? JAYA , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > , HinduShakti <hindushakti2000@> > wrote: > > > > > > Alas ! Hindus are denied basic needs in their own country !! > Billions of rupees are being spent by our government on Haj and a > few acres of land for Amarnath Yatra was so much opposed by Muslims > that our pseudo secular government cancelled it. > > Millions of dollors were spent for Palestine refugees and nothing > was done for Kashmir Pundits who are living like refugees in their > own homeland. > > But Hindus too are responsible for this...Disunity in the name of > language, state, caste etc and egoism among various sects is perhaps > the sin for which nature is punishing us. > > The answer does not lie in killing the muslims or christians, but > seeing inside us for our own faults first > > love > > Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 , sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1 wrote: What does the government do with all the old buildings. Destroy and and use up for something. Let us do the same. Either the Hindu temples or the Hinduism is old so obviously fermented. So why not adopt the modern and better ones?? ======================================== Dear Sripathi, what exactly do you mean by this ? Being old, hinduism does not become obsolete !! Truth remains truth even if centuries long Islam in no way is better than any other religion. I dont wish to make this board a place to abuse any religion, but hinduism needs to be protected here. If someone wishes for a new religion then why Islam,.... Atheism, scientology, satanism etc are even better and newer. Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Dear Aumji please read and interpret the message completely. You have not got the critic sense of it.  Sriharsha. S |.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.||.~''~.| I have often regretted my speech........ Never my silence.... aumji <no_reply > Friday, 4 July, 2008 11:05:02 AM Re: No Amarnath, No Haj @ s.com, sripathi sriharsha <sripathi1@. ..> wrote: What does the government do with all the old buildings. Destroy and and use up for something. Let us do the same. Either the Hindu temples or the Hinduism is old so obviously fermented. So why not adopt the modern and better ones?? ============ ========= ========= ========= = Dear Sripathi, what exactly do you mean by this ? Being old, hinduism does not become obsolete !! Truth remains truth even if centuries long Islam in no way is better than any other religion. I dont wish to make this board a place to abuse any religion, but hinduism needs to be protected here. If someone wishes for a new religion then why Islam,.... Atheism, scientology, satanism etc are even better and newer. Aum Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hari Om! It is not the problem with the God. But, it is the difference in our perception about God that is to blame. God is such a complex phenomenon that He gives scope for so many views and perceptios about Him. God in his loving kindness bestows grace to all who approach Him sincerely in such manner and form as one prays Him. That does not mean that God is true only if you pray Him in one particular manner and form. You have as many gods as many groups of men in the world. The differnece in perception of God only reflects the collective imperfection of man rather than of God. This difference is obliterated once all of us merge in God-consciousness, whatever our margs be. All God-conscious men from various religions have spoken the same language. It is only the half-baked and the dogmatic among the men of religions who foment and promote division among men, in the name of God and religion. Hari Om Tat Sat ulaganathan p jaya_sundram <no_reply > Friday, 4 July, 2008 10:56:23 AM Re: No Amarnath, No Haj ALL PLEASE REPLY IF OUR RELIGIONS IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH, THEN WHY GOD ALLOWS SUCH INSULTING INCIDENTS TO HAPPEN ? WHY GOD SEEMS TO BE WITH THE FALSE RELIGIONS ? JAYA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 , jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote: > > ALL PLEASE REPLY > > IF OUR RELIGIONS IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH, THEN WHY GOD ALLOWS SUCH > INSULTING INCIDENTS TO HAPPEN ? > > WHY GOD SEEMS TO BE WITH THE FALSE RELIGIONS ? > God's favours are not always in the forms of comforts, luxaries, and joys. He sometimes teaches by tyrannies, grief and pains. Some religions having plenty of oil and comforts may be misguided by god to remain happy in the worldly comforts. Hindus need more tyranny to wake up to the ultimate truth..perhaps years of slavery has not worked well Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 , jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote: > > ALL PLEASE REPLY > > IF OUR RELIGIONS IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH, THEN WHY GOD ALLOWS SUCH > INSULTING INCIDENTS TO HAPPEN ? > > WHY GOD SEEMS TO BE WITH THE FALSE RELIGIONS ? Jayaji, it is only in times of hardship does man make any progress. Times of strife force man to look at his weaknesses, & uncover hidden strengths. We have become like overweight, indulgent tourists, who get lost in the jungle & sudddenly hear a tiger.What will you do? Suddenly all your " civilised " , " rational " stuff is redundant. All you can do is drop all useless stuff & run. If the tiger is near, you may even discover you have the skill of climbing trees, something you couldnt do before. Hinduism, & many Indians are carrying lot of garbage baggage from the years past. Some of this stuff was necessary in the times it was invented(like when British left India in 1947, the average life of an Indian man was just 25 years, 22 for women. It made sense to get married at 10-12 years old, as you had lived 50% of you life by then!) But we are like people who continue carrying empty coconut shells, even though the fruit has been eaten. Such attacks on Hinduism are very good, as they force us to evaluate our weaknesses, & reject all that is unecessary or out of date. It also forces us to look for hidden strengths that we may have otherwise ignored. I remember this real story- a rich America went to a poor country to meet his Guru. There he poor children polishing shoes for food. He was overcome with pity, & said " What will happen to these children? Will they ever get help? " What a lovely, heart touching feeling! His Guru however, disagreed, & fell on the floor laughing. When the American expressed surprise, the Guru said " Why do you feel sorry for them? You agree that finding wisdom is our main goal in life? How does you rich, indulgent, carefree life in America help you with that? If anything, it takes you away from the Spirit. These children, living hard, poor lives, have a better chance of finding God than you do. They have sincerity, dedication & strength. All you have is your rich, spoiled habits. Dont feel sorry for them, feel sorry for yourself. " Real Sadhaks grow stronger in times of strife, it is only the ordinary people that suffer. Learning to deal with the hardships is a good way to learn to deal with the unknown Universe, which is more hostile to careless, ignorant beings than any government, religon or group can be. with love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrote: Dear Aumji, Wow! I liked that, we need some more tyranny because we haven't waken from slavery. I remember way back in 1985 our yoga teacher took us to a picnic spot. A visit to a temple in south india. I do not remember the name of the place maybe it was SALEM. There he showed us amongst the carvings a white man's face. He told us that Hindus had degenerated themselves so low that they would become slaves and that was the carving on the temple of the person who would rule over them. I do not know if it was Lord Hastings or who but amongst the rulers in the middle was one white man. They had visualised that much before we were invaded. I guess there is no alternative for God/nature to teach us one way or the other. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote: > I remember way back in 1985 our yoga teacher took us to a picnic > spot. A visit to a temple in south india. I do not remember the > name of the place maybe it was SALEM. There he showed us amongst > the carvings a white man's face. He told us that Hindus had > degenerated themselves so low that they would become slaves and > that was the carving on the temple of the person who would rule > over them. I do not know if it was Lord Hastings or who but amongst > the rulers in the middle was one white man. They had visualised Dear Brother Sudhakar, this is very important and new infor... pls try to remember the place so that we can find more about this prophecy. Bhavishya purna does tell about jesus mohd etc.. but nowhere it said hindus will be slave of \Malechhas love Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hari Om! I have a seen the image of a westerner made in the gopuram of Thanjavur Brahadeeshwar Temple. In the eleventh century when this was constructed by Rajaraja Chola I, there were already many foreign travellers visiting the shores of India.India many trade relatins with Greece and Egypt as well other countries. Cholas themselves were noted sea-farers, whose overseas hegemony extended into the Far-east. Perhaps, this image captures one of the strange looking foreigners that caught the imagination of the scultors. I have also heard people saying that they had the premonition of this land going into the hands of the westerners and hence the image of a westerner. But, I am nor sure. UlaganathanP aumji <no_reply > Sunday, 6 July, 2008 11:52:15 AM Re: No Amarnath, No Haj @ s.com, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@.. .> wrote: > I remember way back in 1985 our yoga teacher took us to a picnic > spot. A visit to a temple in south india. I do not remember the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrote: Dear Aumji, Namaste! I have received following reply from my yoga teacher's wife. quote The temple on which the face of the englishman appears is at Thanjavur in Tamil Nadu about a four hour drive south of Pondy. It is famous, huge temple, built by Raja Raja Cholan about 1000 years ago. The gopuram is carved by a single huge multi-ton granite dome. The face is about 10-15 layers up the central gopuram. I think it is on the south side (not sure). It is quite clear - a face with English hat. I do not think it is the face of any particular man - just an Englishman (or foreigner). unquote With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote: > The temple on which the face of the englishman appears is at > Thanjavur in Tamil Nadu about a four hour drive south of Pondy. > Thanks respected sudhakarji... i will further google the info and will keep it as a reference point Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 > we need some more tyranny because we haven't > waken from slavery. > > I remember way back in 1985 our yoga teacher took us to a picnic > spot. A visit to a temple in south india. I do not remember the > name of the place maybe it was SALEM. There he showed us amongst > the carvings a white man's face. He told us that Hindus had > degenerated themselves so low that they would become slaves and > that was the carving on the temple of the person who would rule > over them. I do not know if it was Lord Hastings or who but amongst > the rulers in the middle was one white man. They had visualised that > much before we were invaded. > I have received following reply from my yoga teacher's wife. > quote > The temple on which the face of the englishman appears is at > Thanjavur in Tamil Nadu about a four hour drive south of Pondy. > It is famous, huge temple, built by Raja Raja Cholan about 1000 > years > ago. The gopuram is carved by a single huge multi-ton granite dome. > The face is about 10-15 layers up the central gopuram. I think > it is on the south side (not sure). It is quite clear - a face with > English hat. I do not think it is the face of any particular man - > just an Englishman (or foreigner). Respected sudhakarJi, Pranam, I strongly object your veiws on the Tajore temple. Pls visit http://www.thebigtemple.com/ , the website with information of this temple which you refer to, The tanjore periya Koil. It was built way back in 900Ad - 1100. It is one of a flamboyant architecture, a master peice of our ancient engineering & sculptures. I have visited the temple quiet a few times, may be i didnot notice the sculpture what you are referning to, but for sure the Kings Raja Raja Chola who started the construction and ended during his sons Rajendra cholas period, were know for their philanthropy, judicial decisions, administration, irrigation and healthcare systems, no way they could have carved such a sculpture. Have you ever been to Shimachala ( near Vishakapatanam, Andrapradesh), where the famous Narashimar temple is? If you notice the whole temple outer sculptures are out of shape, the moghuls who ruled at a latter stage destroyed the great sculpture works, the have damaged a whole lot,..... latter a few kings tried to restore, but in vain, ended up with no originality with some misconceptions about the creations of the sculptures. Many such examples can be given. Its not the king or the people who built the temple or did the sculptures VISULAIsed the SLAVERY, but infact after they invaded unlike muslims/moghal rulers who destroyed the magnificiance, tried to portray their images in important monuments and our beleifs. My opinion on this is may be after the british or who ever invaded in the latter years would have done it and not our peoples visualisaion about slavery. I appriciate if you could be precise as the temple has its own manusctipts carc\ved all around the temple about the history which no where explains the one you pointed it our. Regards, Luv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hari Om! I had earlier sent a post on this subject. I pointed out that there is an image in the gopuram of Tanjore Brahadeswar Temple, of a person with a hat. I said that by the 10th Century BC, there were a number of foreign travellers from China etc. visiting our shores.We had trade relations with Yavanas by which name the Greeks were known here; The Cholas were known for their overseas exploits and won many territories in the Far East like Indonesia, Malaya, besides the decisive victory in Eelam. Hence, it is not surprising that a strange-looking foreigner caught the attention of the sculture. I have also heard of such suggestion that the people of that period had a premonition of the country going int to the hands of foreign rulers resembling the man in sculpture. I have expressed my doubt about such an intention being in the minds of the authors of the said work of art. Hari Om Tat Sat ulaganthan p Senthil <senthil_sym > ago. The gopuram is carved by a single huge multi-ton granite dome. > The face is about 10-15 layers up the central gopuram. I think Respected sudhakarJi, Pranam, I strongly object your veiws on the Tajore temple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 , ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: > > Hari Om! > I had earlier sent a post on this subject. I pointed out that there is >an image in the gopuram of Tanjore Brahadeswar Temple, of a person This is true. Way back in 300Bc Alexander had invaded India, so its not right to say Indians hadnt seen white people. Even in Buddhas time, people from China, Greece etc visited India. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 , " Senthil " <senthil_sym wrote: Dear Senthilji, Namaste! You may be having sentiments about the temple but all i did was, quoted what my yoga teacher had said at that time and the latest posting i have clearly said quote and unquote. Nowhere i have mentioned it is my view. I have nothing against anybody please note that. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > > the rulers in the middle was one white man. They had visualised that > > much before we were invaded. > > > I have received following reply from my yoga teacher's wife. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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