why God needs appreciation ?

June 16, 2008

Thanks all friends who replied to my earlier questions. I have

another unsolved question.

All agree, and this is being discussed here too, that an advanced soul

who has reached certain higher states of meditation sheds off anger

greed etc. He is neither moved by hate nor is happy with appreciation.

Then how come God needs our appreciation ? See all our Aartis, our

prayers etc all are full of appreciation for god. If God is happy

with appreciation, then he is below sadhakas and is like common man.

If God is not happy with appreciations then why we waste our time

in prayers, bhajans and mantras ?

Catch 22 situation ?

Jaya

June 16, 2008

Pranams _/\_,

There can be many ways to answer this question which requires much

elaboration, yet I am only elucidating two of them :-)

1. God truly doesn't need ANYTHING. It is our own weakness that we

cannot achieve a 'single-pointed contemplation' on this Higher source

of Energy called GOD, which resides Within Us. All that matters for us

in this world is nothing but our OWN SELF. So, by projecting a form

and attributing those characteristics to that Form which

subconsciously we ourselves want to be, we try to reach a

" Single-pointed focus " in order to realize our OWN TRUE SELF. Also, it

is said... " Devam Bhutva Devam Yachayet " ...BE A GOD TO ASK FROM A GOD.

2. Our Mind (maan) is attached to two things, OUR BODY (taan) and OUR

WEALTH (dhaan). In order to deviate the path of this ever restless

mind from its object/s of attachments towards " God " , the best resort

is to relocate these objects - Taan & Dhaan. Thats why, we have system

of GIVING (daan & seva). In aarti we say, " tan-man-dhan sab tujhko

arpan " . The poor fellow, GOD :-), has got nothing to do with taan &

dhaan. However, if we offer Taan & Dhaan to The God/Guru...the stupid

Maan will follow its objects of attachments, which is the primary bait

for the Maan to be given proximity with GOD. Thus, there is much

insistence on Daan (Dhaan) and Seva (Taan).

These are answers only for the MIND :-)

But when the HEART is full of devotion and love and blissfulness and

nectar of divine grace...praises for the LORD simply oozes out of our

the molten heart with our whole being getting drowned in that 'state

of devotion'....thats when ALL questions get answered :-)

And yet if some doubt (question) is left behind, one can close eyes,

chant out loud....clap hard....and let oneself loose in the joyfulness

of divine closeness....and follow the Best Philosophy that has been

given to us by the Westerners......its says, WHO CARES !!! :-D

Regards,

Anupam

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

> Thanks all friends who replied to my earlier questions. I have

> another unsolved question.

June 17, 2008

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM

All agree, and this is being discussed here too, that an advanced

soul

> who has reached certain higher states of meditation sheds off

anger

> greed etc. He is neither moved by hate nor is happy with

appreciation.

>

> Then how come God needs our appreciation ? See all our Aartis,

our

> prayers etc all are full of appreciation for god. If God is happy

> with appreciation, then he is below sadhakas and is like common

man.

God i>

> If s not happy with appreciations then why we waste our time

> in prayers, bhajans and mantras ?

>

Thanks for another beautifull question

the enlightened is neither moved by hate nor is happy with

appretiation .

first let me clear the word appritiation and its usage

eg boss and subordinate

1. If you appreciate boss because of His fear otherwise he

would................ than it your appreciation is known as gulami /

slaves

2.if boss needs appreciation and we appreciate him than it is known

as business .

3.if boss appreciates you even though you are not capable for

something than it is known as motivation

4.if boss is not capable of appretiation but still we do his false

appreciation than it is known as chaploosigiri in Hindi

5. if boss never said to you to appreciate , and also you do not

want to appreciate but still you do his appreciation than this

appreciation is done by your heart . sometimes you cry for his

appreciation .because heart do not need anybody's permission it

start doing whatever is the truth .

6. an appreciation which i can not explain in words but it is felt

only

now if it is said about the enlightened person that He is not happy

by appreciation . it is true because it is 1 or 2 or 3or 4 or at

extreme 5 kind of appreciation which could give happiness only .

if you appreciate like 1. than boss is like hitlar who thinks that

He would win the world by power

if aprreciated like 2,3,4 than happiness

if someone appreciated as 5 than it is because of wordly love ie

love of a person with other one it would also give happiness with

neglegible peace

but the appreciation of no. 6 is beyond all above it gives peace

which is for away from suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkhhhhhhhhhh.

now perhaps it is clear why Lord said to appreciate , so that you

can experience BLISS. and it is your choice He never demanded it he

is for above than 1,2,3,4 ,5 kind of appreciation .

please understand the following para in depth .

bhagwan Sri Krishna ne prasansa karne ke liye isliye bhi kaha hai

taaki aap bhi usi ki tareh prasansniya ho jao aur is sansar main

manushya ek dusre ke saath prem bhav se ji sakein .aur log hitlar

na ban jayeein jo logon ko dara kar khus rehta tha .

HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE,HARE

RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM,HARE HARE

June 17, 2008

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

> If God is not happy with appreciations then why we waste our time

> in prayers, bhajans and mantras ?

Jayaji, anupam & jitendar have already given good answers. I can only

add that Bhakti is only useful when it comes from the heart. It is

useful, as it is the natural state of our Higher Being, our individual

Soul, who feels immense love for God & his Universe, as well as a

sweet sadness that he has separated from God. Thats why many Bhajans( &

not just in Hinduism, but Sufism as well) are written as a lovers song

to their beloved. Most Bhajans were written in this natural state of

euphoria, & the goal is to encourage similar feelings in the people

chanting.

This is the feeling that Bhakti tries to encourage, & its the reason

why many great Saints have said Bhakti is the highest path. But most

people confuse an outer & intellectual Bhakti for this real thing.

Bhakti has been divided into many " types " & categories, & Bhaktas

spend time fighting other sects(like Shaiv-Vaishnav)/philosophies(like

Adwait Vedant, Gyan Yoga etc). Its better to be an atheist than to be

such a Bhakta.

Bhakti is superior to other techniques only if it arises spontaneously

from the heart. Otherwise, its just a mechanical act, & it nor more

fools God than it fools our fellow human beings.

with love

Shantnu

June 17, 2008

Respected Members,

Within the limits of my small knowledge, I would like to say something.

We all like to appreciate our self (this body). Even who is not that good

looking tries to find some good point in him/her. I think that the appreciation

which is there in prayers is the appreciation of one own Real Self whose True

Nature is Divine. The question raised is only applicable if you see GOD separate

from you. Actually HE and your Real Self are ONE. So It's GOD praising ONESELF

in reality. GOD doesn't need any prayers or sweet words or appreciations from

you because HE doesn't expect anything back.