Group Karma ?

[Guest guest]

What is the concept of Group karma. Is it a truth or just imagination

as i do not digest the conept that i am responsible to any karma done

by others

 

will some wise member give an answer?

 

regards to you

 

jaya

[Guest guest]

Dear Jayaji,

 

Normally, we are responsible to our own karmas. When it appears that

it is the other's actions affecting us, often it is our own actions

towards them returning back to us. For example, anger or some

negativity in thoughts and/or deeds(consciously or unconsciously)

towards the other, reaching them and triggering in them the same

towards us.

 

Regards,

 

M.S.Thimmappa.

 

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

> What is the concept of Group karma. Is it a truth or just

[Guest guest]

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

>

> What is the concept of Group karma. Is it a truth or just

>imagination as i do not digest the conept that i am responsible to

>any karma done by others

 

Jayaji, not only individuals, but cities, countries, continents, even

planets have a karma! As do societies, castes, or any other group of

people.

 

During imperialism, Britain ruled the world & exploited people. Now

ordinary British people gained from this, even if they didnt directly

exploit poor people. So why shouldnt they share the Karma?

 

Cities also have karma. Like Bombay(I read somewhere) has very

terrible Karma- it has been cursed at least 3 times. Whoever goes to

Bombay, will automatically become selfish, greedy, money minded(I

apologise to any Mumbai-ians here, but lots of other cities like

Delhi, London, New York also have this bad karma- it is bad from

spiritual point of view, not necessarily material).

 

As such, only those people who have Karma to work out will goto such

places- if you are destined not to become materialistic, Ma Nature

will keep you away from such places. If you do live in such places-

just we aware. It means you have to be more careful, as the negative

energies of the place will try to drag you down. One will have to be

very strong to resist these lower forces, but it is possible if ones

faith in God is very strong. One way is to meditate a lot, & avoid

having a big social life.

 

Places get Karma, as very good or very evil actions done there leave

an imprint there, which continues to modify the minds of people living

there. Just look at Jerusalem- Christ was murdered there 2000 years

ago & the people are still reeling with violence. In Iran/Iraq, a

great Sufi Saint Mansoor, who claimed " Ana Al Haq " - I am That(God),

the same thing as Vedant, was brutally murdered, & they have been

fighting too.

 

Such collective Karma destroys whole empires- looked at what happened

to the Roman empire after Jesus death, or to the Mughals after

Aurangzeb had Guru Teg Bahadur killed.

 

It is complex, as the energies of the world, as well as hidden

energies of the astral world, are always manipulating us. Its

impossible for us to fight them all, the only way is to surrender to

the inner God/Guru, & request his help.

 

with love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Dear Shantnuji,

 

Great piece on group karmas and karmas in places/cities. I was

emphasising only the individual part of it. I agree that groups of

individual vibrations in a particular place influenced by situations

prevailing there would be circulating there affecting people in it.

Perhaps that is the reason why sadhakas are advised to prefer places

of positive/spiritual vibrations produced by spiritual practitioners

of long standing.

 

You have said it wonderfully.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

M.S.Thimmappa.

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

 

> Jayaji, not only individuals, but cities, countries, continents,

[Guest guest]

Dear Sadhaks , Group karma is easy to understand perceive and conceive if we

cmpare a meditating satsang and street gangs indulging in vandalism. Both are in

groups,both are volunteers and both should be aware of the consequences.

Please meditate pray and chant in unision.

May God bless all of us.

ijswamy

 

 

~SWAMY

http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/

 

Dear Shantnuji,

 

Great piece on group karmas and karmas in places/cities. I was

[Guest guest]

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> , jaya_sundram <no_reply@> wrote:

> It is complex, as the energies of the world, as well as hidden

> energies of the astral world, are always manipulating us. Its

> impossible for us to fight them all, the only way is to surrender

to

> the inner God/Guru, & request his help.

 

 

I fully agree with Shantanu,

 

Group karma concept is true and is very complex. When one

understands the matrix of energies, one can see clearly the concept

of Group karma working.

 

If an angry mob is beating an innocent passerby (for political or

other reasons) people gather around just to see tamasha...others

stand there and say to themselves - oh this is cruel. The death of

lynched man will lie not only on those who beat him but also on

those who enjoyed the beating or to see as silent spectator...even

those will have a tint of bad karma who said that was cruel.

 

The best way to avoid such group kamra is that if you are capable of

stopping the tyranny stop it.... and if you are not capable just

leave the place - praying god to help the man.

 

Nature not only punishes for bad karma... she also punishes for not

doing karma where one is required to do.

 

 

For Arjuna it was dharma to fight and running away would have caused

bad karma for him.... whereas for vidura the dharma was not to

participate in the war.

 

 

Love

 

Aum